In case you are not aware, there is an issue where if you touch a certain spot your reception goes way down. It doesn't really bother me much, but some people are very enraged over it. Should they leave this the way that it is in the next model, just to emphasize that it isn't a problem? Should they make the spot bigger?
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Verizon iPhone to Start Mass Production, Apple Working on 5th-Gen iPhone
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Why not? It keeps AT&T happy by giving them exclusivity. I've always thought that if Verizon got the iPhone that AT&T & Verizon would be on 2 different release cycles with AT&T possibly getting the advantage.
If true, I can't wait to see how Verizon gimps the iPhone. Will it be with special Verizon branded apps? Removed features? Pay extra for every little feature you want to enable? More expensive apps because VzW wants a piece of the action?
Yeah...this should be interesting to see (assuming it really happens this time).
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Why would they? They don't gimp the Droid phones? There's no longer a reason to think that Verizon would make any changes to the iPhone or the iTunes App Store.
A voice of reason. I don't understand people that say it will or won't happen as a matter of fact. None of them none squat.
BTW, I believe this is the first time MSNBC has picked up the WSJ story and repeated it....I may be wrong.
I know this to be very close to 100% correct. Can't offer proof here for obvious reasons. Doubt away doubters, just get your crow pies baked in time for the holidays.
and would those obvious reasons be that you don't have any proof.
Verizon will get the iPhone whenever Apple decides to release an iPhone that supports LTE, and that won't be until AT&T and Verizon both have a big enough network for it to work on.and would those obvious reasons be that you don't have any proof.
You mean that supports LTE/CDMA right? Because none of the LTE phones will be 100% LTE for quite a while.
and would those obvious reasons be that you don't have any proof.
The 4G-LTE iPhone will be able to fall back on 3G-GSM (not CDMA). This is why Verizon is screwed. They need to wait until their 4G network is fully rolled out in order to support an iPhone. Verizon's own words said that would not happen until 2013-2014. A long wait and an expensive network to manage (to maintain both CDMA and LTE).
I just hope the next one is thinner.
Why? Look what happened this time when they made it thinner, they pushed out the antennas to the sides and it compromised the functionality. Apple needs to take a breather from anerexizing there products and focus on functionality for this next generation. Essentially it's a 4.5 gen because I think they'll treat the next one like the 3G 3GS change. They can't come out with a complete redesign every year that's just stupid.
Yawn
And this is news?
2nd gen iPod
1st gen iPod shuffle
1st gen iPod Touch
G4 400 (upgraded to 1.0)
G4 867
12" Powerbook 867
15" Macbook 2.66 Core 2 Duo
All in working condition
And this is news?
2nd gen iPod1st gen iPod shuffle1st gen iPod TouchG4 400 (upgraded to 1.0)G4 86712" Powerbook 86715" Macbook 2.66 Core 2 DuoAll in working condition
I read some articles a couple months back on how Verizon was testing their 4G network in Boston and another city, and could open up the 4G network in early/mid 2011.
Well, if their 4G network only comes out in 2013-2014 as you say, then a re-designed CDMA iPhone 4 in early 2011 makes sense.
God I hope this is true!!!
AT&T service in San Diego is *horrible*. I don't know if this is because they have the iPhone and they are simply too strung out but I get no less than 15-20 dropped calls a day and an unacceptable amount of dead zones I drive through.
AT&T service in San Diego is *horrible*. I don't know if this is because they have the iPhone and they are simply too strung out but I get no less than 15-20 dropped calls a day and an unacceptable amount of dead zones I drive through.
I read some articles a couple months back on how Verizon was testing their 4G network in Boston and another city, and could open up the 4G network in early/mid 2011.
Well, if their 4G network only comes out in 2013-2014 as you say, then a re-designed CDMA iPhone 4 in early 2011 makes sense.
Yes, Verizon is rolling out new 4G sites as we speak. However, the problem is coverage. Once you leave a metro, you have to fall back on CDMA. Their 4G footprint wont be 'big enough' until 2013-2014 for them to not rely on CDMA as a backup.
Maybe. It's possible to create a combination CDMA+GSM+UMTS+LTE phone, and in fact I would be surprised if Verizon didn't market phones like that eventually (leaving out GSM, perhaps).
Maintaining a dual mode network (CDMA2000 + LTE) for the next decade is not as expensive as maintaining a triple mode network (GSM + UMTS + LTE) as ATT will likely have to do for the same period.
Why do you think Verizon won't agree to let it be an Apple device, and not a Verizon device?
Currently, Verizon is giving away Droids for free (BOGO) to increase their smartphone subscriber base. This is not the case for iPhones.
Also, just like AT&T fears losing subscribers to Verizon if the iPhone goes there, Verizon is thrilled about the prospect of gaining all those iPhone 3G subscribers whose ATT contracts are about to come to an end.
Finally, iPhone owners are a higher paying (and higher earning) demographic (there was a survey regarding this only recently), which Verizon would love to have under their wings.
They want the iPhone, and I really really doubt that branding is what is stopping them. The only thing that may prevent this from happening is that they know Apple wants/needs to be on Verizon so they can break the 30% marketshare barrier where they've stagnated (and its not going to change while Apple only has access to about 35% of the American market). They are probably trying to drive a hard bargain and the only reason you wont see an iPhone on Verizon (assuming the ATT exclusivity contract expires soon) is because they cant come to financial agreements.
I get what you mean. In that case, I'm sure Apple will do what any other manufacturer would: design a phone with both CDMA and LTE (and maybe more) all in one unit. It's a no brainer..
That's true, but only if you care whether or not the little boy gets eaten by the wolf.
Like many townsfolk, I could care less if VZW gets the iPhone. I'm happy w/ATT and don't plan on changing.
Good to know.
Yet since the reports I've read seem to talk about sourcing CDMA components, and CDMA phone without specifying which CDMA is referenced, I wonder why people assume a CDMA iPhone == Verizon. I've yet to see anything that bridges that gap other than speculation, if you have a reference to something that bears evidence for Verizon specifically I'd be interested in reading it.
Oh really? You've seen it?
No more expensive than maintaining both HSDPA and LTE or Edge and HSDPA. Seriously, wireless carriers have maintained multiple networks for years now. This is nothing new.
And like many townfolk around my area, I could careless if ATT gets a phone from NASA that can call Mars. Their network has more holes than swiss cheese. A phone is only as good as its network.
Isn't it well known that Apple hasn't revewed their exclusivity deal with ATT? That alone should be a sign of things to come. When is the question.
iPhone 5 - LTE
No CDMA iPhone coming. An iPhone 5 with LTE and 3G-GSM fall back sounds likely. Will look identical to iPhone 4 but with a lacquer coating on the antenna. Will probably come out in 2Q11 and VZW will have 38 markets ready for LTE in Jan '11. ATT will have fewer LTE markets, but 3G-GSM everywhere. Keeps more people happy. Very small chance it will have CDMA fall back due to Qualcomm chip, because you need more than chip capability.
No CDMA iPhone coming. An iPhone 5 with LTE and 3G-GSM fall back sounds likely. Will look identical to iPhone 4 but with a lacquer coating on the antenna. Will probably come out in 2Q11 and VZW will have 38 markets ready for LTE in Jan '11. ATT will have fewer LTE markets, but 3G-GSM everywhere. Keeps more people happy. Very small chance it will have CDMA fall back due to Qualcomm chip, because you need more than chip capability.
Oh really? Then why did my American CDMA phone work just fine in China?
Thanks for the update Mr. Jobs. Oh...wait a sec!?
