Video iPod Really Coming on Oct 12th?

[applekid]

Give me iTunes TV Shows Store, and I'm sold!

And an updated AirPort Express for video.

Toss in a PowerMac G5 and PowerBook update for good measure.

Center the whole thing on video. At the moment, I suspect only iPod and maybe AirPort Express announcements will be made at this press event, as ThinkSecret suggests.

PM G5's and PB's don't need a flashy introduction.

 

[GFLPraxis]

This'll sound crazy, but what I really want is a video-in and video-out. Turn the iPod into a DVR.


Anyway, as long as there is an iTunes TV Show Store that I can get Smallville episodes from, or an iMovie Store, and it has video-out, I'll buy my first iPod

 

[pjmurphy77]

Its got to be something to do with the iTMS... I don't know if anyone has mentioned this (too lazy to check) but iTMS didn't update today.

Yes, there was an update today (go to New Releases -> See All..

 

[age234]

I can't believe how pissy some of the people are being. Can some of you all be happy about something for once? Apple knows what it's doing. Give them a little credit. Enough with the whining. Be happy for them.

I'm not sure, but Apple still makes computers. But let me check...yes, they still have computers on the online store. Oh, what's this? Apple is switching to Intel? Well, looks like they're still going to make computers. Stop whining. I think the weekly "new PB this Tuesday" posts aren't helping anything, and are only contributing to hype that can't be lived up to. Steve could unveil a 1" thick dual G5 PB tomorrow and someone would find some way to whine about it.

Apple doesn't work on your timetable, you don't know what's best for Apple, so quit griping.

*rubs hands together* Video iPod... And that DVR idea is great,.

 

[cxny]

Is This Webcast?

Does anyone know if Apple Soho is screening this event? It's fun to sit with fellow geeks and watch Steve doing his JOB at these events.

 

[AvSRoCkCO1067]

I'm remembering the BBC 'leak'... the BBC don't usually go around publishing BS.

I really think there is something in Video iPod.. even if TS do flip flop, they've missed a fair bit recently...

TS changed their minds too...

 

[Xtremehkr]

The positive impact the iPod has is showing, but Apple is still not capitalizing fully on the potential. They could be doing a lot more to bring their main products to the forefront. Maybe that will come after the move to Intel.

 

[destroyboredom]

Love to know what company. I checked my system today at one of those companies and didn't see anything yet.

I know for a FACT that a video ipod will be introduced. cough, big companies most likely already added this item to their system.

 

[Mr Maui]

The positive impact the iPod has is showing, but Apple is still not capitalizing fully on the potential. They could be doing a lot more to bring their main products to the forefront. Maybe that will come after the move to Intel.

Um ... newsflash ... iPod may soon BECOME their main product. Conference call this afternoon said Macs were 60 percent of revenue, iPods were 40% of revenue. iPods have higher profit margins than Macs. Haven't seen all of the numbers but actual profits may be larger from iPods than from Macs.

 

[soapsuds]

On the video issue, I feel like there might be a rift in iPod users similar to the issue with iPhoto. Watching feature length movies on a tiny screen is bad for a variety of reasons well-described in other posts. However, people with kids take lots and lots of photographs and movies of their children and want to show them to other people at any time, such as a barbecue where they won't be toting a laptop. Even the current size of screen on the iPod is not too different from a "wallet-sized" photograph.

Another, younger market is people who like to take videos of their friends doing goofy things. While not everyone has a firewire-equipped video camera, most people now have digital cameras that can take little movies, of a quality and length probably more suited to a tiny screen than the latest 60" HDTV. I bet if I had a video iPod that could play them back, I would probably use this feature far more often, especially if the unit had a small speaker so that you could pass it around (earbud-style headphones don't really lend themselves to sharing).

With even fairly low-end cell-phones having cameras, it seems like a video iPod should have the ability to record video, either with a built-in or accessory camera, preferably one made by Apple and fully supported rather than some hacky add-on.

 

[StkhlmSyndrm23]

The vascilation back and forth on these rumors just goes to show that we really don't know what sort of rabbit Steve will be pulling out of his hat tomorrow. Err... what sort of iPod out of his jeans.

I really hope we see upgraded PM's and PB's tomorrow, though, as well. Those ship times certainly seem to suggest so.

 

[nagromme]

People are still talking about 80 GB, which would be cool, but ThinkSecret has essentially withdrawn that prediction (which was never firm) and now suggests 30 and 60 GB. Steel yourselves for a possible few months more wait if 60 isn't enough.

honestly im waiting for the rebirth of the newton os so they can create an ipod/newton

I'd rather have OS X in my pocket, but resurrecting the Newton name would be kinda cool

Well... tomorrow may make it official. Apple is no longer a computer company but a sony want to be.
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I hope Apple remembers where it's roots are...

I can't reveal my source so don't ask, but a VERY reliable person in the know told me that Apple is planning to switch to Intel chips next year, and has ALREADY ported OS X, ported iLife, and given tools to developers to port their apps. If this is true, then Apple is very busy on the computer side of things, with great stuff in the works. And what if (this is me speculating now) they have new Macs coming even before the Intel switch?

Its got to be something to do with the iTMS... I don't know if anyone has mentioned this (too lazy to check) but iTMS didn't update today.

The Tuesday freebies etc. are supposedly always delayed to Wednesday when Monday is a holiday (Columbus Day).

 

[Porchland]

Its got to be something to do with the iTMS... I don't know if anyone has mentioned this (too lazy to check) but iTMS didn't update today.

There was new content today, but the front page didn't roll. When you click on the Jamie Cullum pre-order promo, for example, you can actually buy the album. I think the same thing happened the week the Madonna catalog came out: all the new content went up except Madonna and Harry Potter, which were added when the front page finally rolled with iTunes 5.

 

[EricNau]

If they came out with an iPod Video, would it be an upgrade to the current model, or a whole new model seperate from the curent iPod?

 

[Whyren]

Video iPod? Perhaps...but maybe...

Can anyone say, Goople?

 

[Stella]

I would imagine Apple would want people to buy a new iPod rather than being able to upgrade their current 4G colour iPod.

If they came out with an iPod Video, would it be an upgrade to the current model, or a whole new model seperate from the curent iPod?

 

[Porchland]

I can't reveal my source so don't ask, but a VERY reliable person in the know told me that Apple is planning to switch to Intel chips next year, and has ALREADY ported OS X, ported iLife, and given tools to developers to port their apps.

Excuse me if I missed some irony, but this has all been announced.

 

[abhishake]

Video iPod? Perhaps...but maybe...

Can anyone say, Goople?

That is so hot.. Those are my two fav. companies.

 

[bankshot]

They must have worked out a way to export DVDs and the sort to your iPod. If that happens, then what are people going to argue about?

If that happens, then I'd be much more receptive to the idea of portable video. Still, even then I believe it's not nearly the "killer app" that portable audio has been. People carried audio with them since the day the Walkman came out. And they've always wanted to carry more than just a few tapes/CDs. MP3 players, and eventually the iPod, satisfied that long-standing desire. It filled a need that already existed in the market.

I don't see a similar overwhelming need or desire in the market for portable video. Car DVD players are taking off, especially for families with kids, but that makes sense in the car, when the kids are bored to death. Who else is carrying their DVDs around with them on a daily basis like people used to carry tapes and CDs for their Walkmans?

Maybe this will be more like the Walkman and create a new market need/desire, but I remain ever the skeptic.

As for whether Apple has even got a way to import DVDs just like we import CDs into iTunes now, I believe that's extremely unlikely right now. My reasons include:

• The movie industry is even more paranoid than the music industry about piracy. No way they let Apple release a way to rip DVDs.
• Even if Steve Jobs can apply his RDF and industry connections (he is CEO of Pixar, after all) to convince movie execs to allow this, they still have to come up with a way to preserve DRM on commercial DVDs to prevent unauthorized copying. Difficult task at best.
• Steve Jobs is part of the movie industry. He has a vested interest in preventing piracy and/or making us all buy new copies of Pixar movies for our new iPods.
• Heck, the whole movie industry would like to resell us the same movies again in a new format just for this. See UMD movies for PSP.
• Imported movies will have to be compressed so an iPod could hold a reasonable number of them. This takes a huge amount of time. A reasonably fast machine might compress a full length movie to H.264 in 20 hours. Maybe longer. Nobody wants to wait that long when you can import a CD in 5-10 minutes.

For similar reasons, online distribution of movies isn't ready just yet - a full length movie is a much bigger download than a similar length set of music. Needs a few more years to kick up broadband speeds and get the tech stragglers off of modems. Frankly, I don't see portable video being more than a novelty or niche application until we can import DVDs or buy online like we do with music now. It may be a quite a long time before the technical and legal hurdles are overcome.

With that, I'm fully prepared to eat these words if something huge happens tomorrow, I'm just not betting on it. Not yet.

 

[thymac]

you know whats gong to end up happening with these video ipods right? their not going to sell after a while. so many people have a psp, ds, or ipod linux with video capability already on their ipod photos. you can even watch movies on a gameboy micro with play yan. there is really no need for it unless you have a 4th generation with a black and grey screen. who wants to watch music videos all the time aswell as movies. two thirds of the time unless your on a trip, you not even going to be using it for video capability. unless your in college where your in a class with 50+ students and you cant get caught withe headphones on, your going to get caught. if anyone here is in highschool or middleschool, good luck trying to hide it if a video ipod is released. the most stupid thing about all this is that just because it says One more thing on a card where the background is a red curtain, doesn't have to mean it's relating to movies. i have s velvet red curtain just like it at the major college auditorium on my campus. it can be for anything but the fact that people just assumed red curtain which used to be used for movies which is not true at all (myself being a film major taking film history currently) means a video ipod is rediculous. yes there probably will be some type of iPod, powerbook, and powermac update. if anything the iPod update will be the biggest, being a smaller, and new colored ipod. the powerbook and powermac updates will defiantley be small. there is no need for a major update now especially with design. at most they will be speed updates, along with a possible video update. actually i wouldnt be suprised if they did something with the screens or graphics cards of the powerbooks, which isnt that big of an update anyway. lets think steve said the intel where going to come out starting mid to late 2006 and everything would be on intel hopefully by 2007. what makes you think their ready to put intel chips in powerbooks now? especially with the new yonah chip sereies amongst others that they are making for laptops. my othe question for you all is why would they do it now? he only anounced this a few months ago. did you really expect the first mac's with intel chips this fast? i sure didnt. they earliest is obviously MWSF. so people stop and think for just a moment before thinking its going to be a major ipod, powerbook, or powermac update.

 

[abhishake]

http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-iPod-U2-S...ryZ67838QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

My ipod just sold!!! SWEET!!

 

[bankshot]

I can't believe how pissy some of the people are being. Can some of you all be happy about something for once?

Sorry. Some of us just forgot that this is HappyAppleWorship.com, where only positive thoughts about Apple are allowed.

 

[age234]

I don't see a similar overwhelming need or desire in the market for portable video. Car DVD players are taking off, especially for families with kids, but that makes sense in the car, when the kids are bored to death. Who else is carrying their DVDs around with them on a daily basis like people used to carry tapes and CDs for their Walkmans?

Maybe this will be more like the Walkman and create a new market need/desire, but I remain ever the skeptic.

Well, I may be biased because I go to a film/animation/audio production school, but I see people watching movies on their PSPs all the time. And if Apple finds a way to work with the PSP DVD discs, they could really have something there.

But you're right, this is more a comparison to the Walkman when it first came out than with the iPod today. It probably is a little before its time. But I think Apple has something with a video iPod.

And don't forget 3rd party peripherals. If companies start making really cool peripherals for them (let's not forget all these kinds of things--there could be connections to larger portable screens, compatibility with DVRs, and all kinds of things coming down the road that have nothing to do with Apple), it would make it even better.

Sorry. Some of us just forgot that this is HappyAppleWorship.com, where only positive thoughts about Apple are allowed.

No, I'm not trying to be a yes-man. I just think a lot of people are being very short-sighted about this. Just give it a chance, that's all. I mean, I can't think of a lot of cases where I can say, "Apple, come on. What were you thinking?" about big-time things like this, can you?

 

[makki]

switch

if there will be no update on apple computers tomorrow I will switch to PC


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but i will buy the video ipod

and go back to mac when the intel macs come

 

[thymac]

if there will be no update on apple computers tomorrow I will switch to PC


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but i will buy the video ipod

and go back to mac when the intel macs come

there will be updates on some computers but most likely not that big. you must remember this will be the last update if there is any for th powerpc line until the intel machines arrive. these machines are amost as good as they can get when it comes to the powerpc line.