‘An attacker would initially need physical access to the device in question’
Not good, but as long as you don’t leave your things unlocked untended probably not all that big a threat?
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Not good, but as long as you don’t leave your things unlocked untended probably not all that big a threat?
Yes! I am in this boat as well. My 2015 top spec 15" is still running pretty flawlessly and doing everything I need as a professional photographer and videographer. 32GB Ram would be useful though in some tasks, and an upgraded GPU as well.
I don't think they'd have to overhaul the design. Even a few mm extra key travel and more typical Apple QC would go a very long way in improving the thing.
For me, Apple's hardware is OK, maybe with the exception of the single fan nTB 13" model. What concerns me more is the software quality. This is where Apple has lost a lot of credibility in my opinion: The many bugs in iOS11 and High Sierra are really frightening.
I suspect they cannot release another MBP with this keyboard. Every top case being replaced as a result of this design flaw is costing them. They would more likely wait on the 2018 until they've fixed the issue with a different design.
[doublepost=1515830150][/doublepost]Apple has become sloppy in hardware and software - complacent with their success and resting on their laurels. Someone needs to grab the reins and crack that whip.
Indeed, new products and operating systems shouldn't frustrate users to this degree and have them yearning for the past.
See, that's one reason why I love the non-TB model (The keyboard is the overriding fatal flaw, enough that I sold mine after the 3 keyboard replacement). It only has 1/2 the cooling of the TB model....but it also has less than 1/2 the total wattage draw! That means that the non-TB models consistently run cooler, longer. Plus, only having one fan means more space for a bigger battery, which is 10% larger than the TB models.
People were initially complaining about not getting the advertised life on the TB models, while I *easily* got 13-14 hours battery on my non-tb without even trying.
I do
i dont have issues with the 10 hours battery life on my 15” mbp 2017 model but initially i only got around 6 hours on the first 2016 15 mbp
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My 2013 rMBP has very poor battery life now and a few failing keys on the keyboard, which is a major issue since I write a lot. But I couldn’t bring myself to buy a 2016 or 2017 model due to their price hikes, keyboard and battery issues, and downgrade in available ports.
To tide myself over I just bought a 10.5” iPad Pro with the Smart Keyboed. I love it. Typing is just as fast, surprisingly. Now I’m questioning the whole MacBook thing and may just buy an iMac for use at home, eventually...I guess I’ll wait to see what happens with the MBPs.
To tide myself over I just bought a 10.5” iPad Pro with the Smart Keyboed. I love it. Typing is just as fast, surprisingly. Now I’m questioning the whole MacBook thing and may just buy an iMac for use at home, eventually...I guess I’ll wait to see what happens with the MBPs.
The current state of chatter on here doesn't have me feeling particularly hopeful about what I'd hoped to be a laptop replacement year.
I don't want to go back to a desktop and I really don't want to go to windows, but my work in ue4 and other 3d software is becoming increasingly out of step with the direction of the MacBook Pro it seems.
I don't want to go back to a desktop and I really don't want to go to windows, but my work in ue4 and other 3d software is becoming increasingly out of step with the direction of the MacBook Pro it seems.
I agree. the conclusions I came too are a 2018 MBP [hexcore] with an egpu for windows use, to create desktop power plus still have the best laptop around. Or just bite the bullet and go all PC for my work. The latter is quite tempting unfortunately but reduces hassle.
Most of that isn’t going to happen.
The closest we’ll see to another 17” would be them reducing the bezels on the current 15” and keeping the same body.
The extra ports aren’t coming back either. Apple have already prioritised thin on their notebooks and that’s it for those of us who wish it wasn’t so.
Then they can also use it to get rid of ports on iPhones and iPads to improve water seals.
Don’t see this happening until 2019 at the earliest though.
The closest we’ll see to another 17” would be them reducing the bezels on the current 15” and keeping the same body.
- 13” and 15” MBPs keep the same size but gain larger screens (14 & 16?), to differentiate from regular MB.
- Regular MBs finally come down in price and MBA finally gets discontinued.
- Keeping the manufacturing costs low helps them continue to do MBs in multiple colours.
- MBPs stay in 2 colors to protect margins.
- Regular MBs finally come down in price and MBA finally gets discontinued.
- Keeping the manufacturing costs low helps them continue to do MBs in multiple colours.
- MBPs stay in 2 colors to protect margins.
The extra ports aren’t coming back either. Apple have already prioritised thin on their notebooks and that’s it for those of us who wish it wasn’t so.
- They probably want to consolidate more of their motherboard into a smaller space like iPhone X, or that Intel/AMD hybrid chip - so they can increase battery size. They can’t do that if they have to re-add components like USB-A back to the motherboards.
- The best we’ll get will be maybe 2 more USB-C or whatever new thing they come up with to replace MagSafe. My theory is that they have some kind of long term plan for the smart connector from iPad Pro. They will have some kind of next gen version of it that will do power + data + magnets.
- The best we’ll get will be maybe 2 more USB-C or whatever new thing they come up with to replace MagSafe. My theory is that they have some kind of long term plan for the smart connector from iPad Pro. They will have some kind of next gen version of it that will do power + data + magnets.
Then they can also use it to get rid of ports on iPhones and iPads to improve water seals.
Don’t see this happening until 2019 at the earliest though.
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A 16-inch would be OK, too; I'd just prefer a larger screen than a 15-inch one because I have low vision and would probably get some use out of the extra screen real estate, regardless, what with future plans for coding projects and all (plus I'm used to this 24" honker at the moment, so I'll probably get an external display, too, anyway…) In any case, there are enough complaints circling around the 'Net about the current line-up of MacBooks and MacBook Pros that some kind of rejiggering of it doesn't seem entirely unlikely at this point. I'd think it wouldn't really cost all that much different, price-wise, to put out more devices in more varied colors (unless anodization dies have straddle a wider price range than I'd care to consider.) I'm not the only one in this thread and elsewhere on the forums who wouldn't mind seeing thicker laptops from Apple, either, but it's rather sad to admit we're probably just pining for the improbable; besides, the height of a USB-A port isn't ridiculously larger than that of USB-C port, so why in the blazes do those extra millimeters matter all that much?!? With the extra space, even more battery capacity could fit inside. Still, I agree that not looking for a port extender would be absolutely silly at this point, no matter how much some people, whether with part(s) of their brain or all of it, would like to dream that a device that they wouldn't need one for might return; whether anybody likes it or not, minimalism seems to remain the vogue in the industry and probably will for the foreseeable future.
yeh Pretty much how I feel. I’m torn at the moment over what hardware to get to replace an old Mac. All the options have some kind of downside and it shouldn’t be like that imo.
Maybe it’s just a bad time to buy in general, so I’m going to wait until “spring” at least to see what’s up.
Maybe it’s just a bad time to buy in general, so I’m going to wait until “spring” at least to see what’s up.
Same here. We missed the best time to buy MBP which was the time they released rMBP 15" 2015. I bought it using school's money. Can't keep it with me.
This is why I'm still holding on to my 2014 MBP. I'm one of the ones that actually like the touchbar too, but the combination of the insanely oversized trackpad and one of the worst quality keyboards I've ever tried has me waiting and praying they come to their senses here and stop with the thinness crap. I've tried repeatedly to use the keyboard to see if I could get used to it, but the combo of the larger sized trackpad and lack of travel of the keys feel makes typing on it awkward and unnatural for me, along with a high error rate. It's really telling when the smart cover keyboard of the iPad feels more natural to me and easier to type on.
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Yeah, I'll never understand the decision to make the trackpads larger. All it does is ensure that I will accidentally hit it while typing every now and then and lose my place in the text. No one was clamoring for a bigger trackpad. I still wonder if it was done because they were intending Pencil support at some time...
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I couldn't wait to get rid of my 2014 [heavy, constant fans, spongy keyboard, trackpad too small.....], and love the keyboard on the new MBP despite all the comments, but agree the trackpad is too big. Just evening out the preferences in the discussion
Same. I am blown away by the Smart Keyboard even on the 10.5”. And it’s much thinner than any Mac keyboard, so why is the MBP one so failure prone??
It's designed so well my iPad could have potentially been my work laptop when I'm out of the "office" BUT the Google Sheets app for it is just awful. Still waiting for a day when it would finally be possible to do decent spreadsheet work on an iPad if it ever comes.
Intel's roadmap delays are kinda ridiculous by now. But hey, they shipped probably a single demo unit to someone at the time where they were supposed to actually ship them in volumes to customers.
They should just release all the 8th gen chips already and then rework their roadmap to manage expectations to realistic levels.
Sorry to break the party but can this be true? No update for 2018?
https://www.macrumors.com/2018/01/1...m_source=osx&utm_medium=push&utm_campaign=mac
https://www.macrumors.com/2018/01/1...m_source=osx&utm_medium=push&utm_campaign=mac
The way this is worded in the article:
"[...] while Apple has not majorly upgraded its MacBook range since 2016's Touch Bar MacBook Pros, and is said to have no plan for one in 2018."
It seems like the author really means "new design" when he writes "major upgrade". And that's most definitely right. However, even only swapping the CPUs would be a huge upgrade, considering Intel now ships quad-core 15W CPUs and likely six-core 45W CPUs are almost ready.