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My iPhone 14 Pro will get uncomfortably hot when wireless charging in my Tesla Model 3 and would also often give a message saying that charging has stopped due to heat. I am foregoing wireless charging at all with my iPhone 15 Pro Max, I just don’t trust it. I also had my battery run down to 89% health after a year on my iPhone 14 Pro, and I think it’s primarily due to it overheating while wireless charging.
The 14 Pro overheats for anything. That’s why everybody’s battery health is down to the 80s within one year.
 
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Deactivated wireless charging on my iX1 until further notice so all good 👍
 
People have been commenting through the thread that other phones have had problems with the BMW charger, but that's really beside the point... You're using bad logic.

Even if the iPhone14 didn't have problems and the 15 does, that in no way points the finger at Apple. In the absence of other evidence, you couldn't draw a conclusion either way. If one or the other device wasn't fully compliant with the standard then it's a crap shoot how you'd expect them to work together, and each generation would be a new roll of the dice.

In this case though, we do have other evidence: there aren't reported failures of the NFC chips with any other Qi chargers as of yet. That suggests that the one charger that's causing a problem is the problem. Still no final conclusions to be drawn since the phone is new and information travels rather slowly and the opportunity of putting Apple and BMW into the same story of failure is just catnip to webfolk so I'd expect it to get more noise more quickly.
Obviously nothing conclusive can be claimed, but unless these people are changing phones and cars at the same time, I don't think it's unreasonable to say that the new variable is the iPhone 15. Further, while it's true that we aren't hearing reported failures of the NFC chips with any other Qi chargers, we can equally say that we haven't heard of this specific BMW Qi charger causing NFC malfunctions in any other phone.

Certainly, the circumstantial evidence points in one direction.
 
Until now only US version 15 Pro/PM devices (no Sim, mmWave 5G) seem to be affected, is that correct? How about international versions?
 
BMW has been off the rails for a while now. They haven’t made a car I’ve liked since 2008. They have become a mass market car that anyone can obtain and lost their uniqueness in terms of design and vibe.

I traded a 3 series for a last gen Chrysler 200C a while back. The Chrysler is a far superior car in almost every way to the 3 series. It’s a shame people are too busy trying to show each other how successful and just like everyone else they are….the 200 might have won the day. But everyone around here is too vein so BMW, Audis, and Mercs are the only luxury cars people will buy. Most are sold used, 72 month loan, $0 down, and 20% interest if I had to guess. They only sell well because of peer pressure and ego.
I think 2016 for the 5 series was the last design I actually liked. The newer models drive pretty poorly by comparison and the quality control is completely off the rails.

All that said there have not been reports of other phone’s components failing due to charger issues. If this is indeed happening with Apple iPhones it wouldn’t be a complete shock. Apple has had a series of quality control mishaps over the past 7 years. MacBook and MacBook Pros included.

It’s just not the same company it was under Steve Jobs. Period end of story.

Remember when Antenna Gate happened? Even though the iPhone 4 functioned just fine when used as intended and Jobs famously said they’re “holding it wrong” it didn’t stop Apple from admitting that their design decision on the 4 was a bad one and they offered every single customer a free Apple iPhone Bumper Case.

That was a genuinely class act move on Apple’s part. And then for the 4 S and 5 and so on they redesigned the Antenna so there was no such issue when clasping the phone with your whole hand.

Everyone who is bickering over who to blame for what ever is going on right now needs to chill out for a moment and consider that Apple has a responsibility to its customers and it’s share holders to ensure that they are both happy.

Otherwise they have no business being in business. Period end of story. LOL 😅

Now I’ll get off my soap box. Ahem….. 😅😅😅
 
My iPhone 14 Pro will get uncomfortably hot when wireless charging in my Tesla Model 3 and would also often give a message saying that charging has stopped due to heat. I am foregoing wireless charging at all with my iPhone 15 Pro Max, I just don’t trust it. I also had my battery run down to 89% health after a year on my iPhone 14 Pro, and I think it’s primarily due to it overheating while wireless charging.
In a case?
 
It’s just not the same company it was under Steve Jobs. Period end of story.

Remember when Antenna Gate happened? Even though the iPhone 4 functioned just fine when used as intended and Jobs famously said they’re “holding it wrong” it didn’t stop Apple from admitting that their design decision on the 4 was a bad one and they offered every single customer a free Apple iPhone Bumper Case.

That was a genuinely class act move on Apple’s part. And then for the 4 S and 5 and so on they redesigned the Antenna so there was no such issue when clasping the phone with your whole hand.

So you’re saying Apple, under Jobs, downplayed a design defect and initially put the blame on customers rather than take full responsibility, and then rather than do a recall which would be insanely expensive, they just pulled a PR move and gave away cheap bumpers? Oh and don’t forget that Apple also said that part of the problem was the way they were calculating signal bars in the OS, so they released a patch to “adjust” that….

Ok, so exactly how was Apple more trustworthy under Jobs again? I’m confused. 🤔🤔🤔 Apple never, ever said that they made a bad design decision. That’s some revisionist history…
 
For what it’s worth, my iPhone 14 Pro Max battery health dropped to 88% in a year and I never use wireless charging.
Same here. 1 year, 88% health. My previous phone was iPhone X and I had 81% after 3 years when I changed my battery.

I had read somewhere (here also) that Apple lowered the quality of their battery cells that affects longevity of the battery starting with iPhone 14 and even more so with future products (15)
 
Same here. 1 year, 88% health. My previous phone was iPhone X and I had 81% after 3 years when I changed my battery.

I had read somewhere (here also) that Apple lowered the quality of their battery cells that affects longevity of the battery starting with iPhone 14 and even more so with future products (15)
If true, we can be assured it has nothing at all to do with "forced obsolescence" :rolleyes:
 
If you plug your USB-C phone charger into a slightly off-spec charger, your phone will likely be fine.

If you split the hot and neutrals for one of the pin outs on your USB-C cable then plug them into your outlet directly, it will likely fry your phone.

Circuitry can't protect against everything. Personally I refuse to use wireless chargers on phones until the heat issues are addressed. Even official magsafe chargers turns my family's phones into little ovens.

Meanwhile a regular ol' cable charges faster with less heat.

Nothing wrong with phones or any devices getting hot so long as it's in spec. It's about how they can dissipate heat... and most of the time it's cheap cases that are the issue. Little thermal jackets.
 
The funny thing is that only Apple seems to have these problems. Apple and overheating problems also go hand in hand. Apple always wants special treatment and often ignores standards.

So, one can ask why Samsung or Huawei do not have these problems as well? Well, these companies rely on standards and use standard off-the-shelf components, such as charging, paired with standard drivers. Also, Apple wants to have the fastest processor, which is good for HPC laptops, but bad for mobile. So Applecould have developed an mobile version of their silicon, focusing on battery life and overheating.

For heaven's sake, Apple's efforts to develop its own mobile chip seem to be failing. Otherwise, we'd see the next generation suffer from constant dropouts on certain networks.


It's time for a change and Apple should start thinking differently again. Tim, Craig, Phil and all the other old hands should leave and hand over the leadership to a younger generation with fresh ideas.
 
Unfortunately if it’s affecting iPhones to point of frying the wireless charging and damaging the NFC chip on iPhone, looks like it might be the issue on BMW’s end.

(Which means you’ll probably need to take the car to the dealer to get it fixed once the solution is out. And hopefully BMW will pay for the repair…..)
 
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The overheating issue I could care less about (I don't respect anyone who uses Instagram, I always uninstall Uber after I use it, I don't play freebie games with in app purchases, etc) but this seems like a pretty serious glitch. Been using iPhone 15 Pro since launch and havn't had any issues!
Why do you not respect anyone who uses Instagram?
 
I think 2016 for the 5 series was the last design I actually liked. The newer models drive pretty poorly by comparison and the quality control is completely off the rails.

All that said there have not been reports of other phone’s components failing due to charger issues. If this is indeed happening with Apple iPhones it wouldn’t be a complete shock. Apple has had a series of quality control mishaps over the past 7 years. MacBook and MacBook Pros included.

It’s just not the same company it was under Steve Jobs. Period end of story.

Remember when Antenna Gate happened? Even though the iPhone 4 functioned just fine when used as intended and Jobs famously said they’re “holding it wrong” it didn’t stop Apple from admitting that their design decision on the 4 was a bad one and they offered every single customer a free Apple iPhone Bumper Case.

That was a genuinely class act move on Apple’s part. And then for the 4 S and 5 and so on they redesigned the Antenna so there was no such issue when clasping the phone with your whole hand.

Everyone who is bickering over who to blame for what ever is going on right now needs to chill out for a moment and consider that Apple has a responsibility to its customers and it’s share holders to ensure that they are both happy.

Otherwise they have no business being in business. Period end of story. LOL 😅

Now I’ll get off my soap box. Ahem….. 😅😅😅
Some people affected were rightfully unhappy they had to cover their phone to make it function adequately. But so it goes.
 
Same here. 1 year, 88% health. My previous phone was iPhone X and I had 81% after 3 years when I changed my battery.

I had read somewhere (here also) that Apple lowered the quality of their battery cells that affects longevity of the battery starting with iPhone 14 and even more so with future products (15)
I do not know for sure that Apple lowered the quality of the batteries. I had a iPhone 14 Pro and got it the first week it was available (I did make a mistake and get the base model 128GB storage). When I traded the 14 Pro in it still had 100% battery health and I did check at the cellular store just prior to trading it in for a 512 GB iPhone 15 Pro.

My iPhone 14 Pro did get warm on charging when I was using wired CarPlay, I got the warning about it charging was stopped until the 14 Pro could cool off as it was in a cubby in my car but moving it and allowing the phone to cool off with direct air conditioning vents hitting it, it cooled off just fine. Since that incident I always place my iPhones where they are where they can get cool/moving air instead of the dead space I had perviously used.

The entire thing is I only charged iPhone 14 Pro only 3 times on a wireless charger and all other times it was direct wired charging. Once on was on my brothers MagSafe charger and 1 time in Incheon International Airport in February of this year and the last time was in Aquino International Airport in Manila in March of this year. I also never used Instagram or any of the apps mentioned by others so I do not issues with overheating. My 15 Pro did get warm when I first was activating it but otherwise it has been cool as can be expected

I don't know about BMW as I never owned one and will probably never will own one as those cars/SUV's never interested me but I always preferred either American or Japanese vehicles.
 
I haven’t had this issue but the BMW wireless charger is garbage. It heats the phone so much that the phone stops charging. Not surprised to hear that it can actually do damage.

Yes, yes, and every time I can I encourage people to be careful where they get their wireless chargers from. My roommate has one from a recruiting event and the thing is a heating mat, a fire hazard. Ever since Apple canceled their own wireless charger I am convinced these devices can be a danger, at the least it will degrade your battery life over time.
 
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