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What a Tall 'iPhone 5' with 4-Inch Display Looks Like

xStatiCa said:
Bad idea to change the ratio. I have already encoded all my videos (yes there are a lot of them) to the aspect ratio of the iphone which also involved clipping the sides of quite a bit of videos specifically so that I won't have black borders at the top and bottom. This change would now show those videos with black borders on the sides. :mad:

I sure hope they increase the screen in both dimensions to keep the aspect ratio. This would also make apps not have to deal with aspect ratio changes.
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Because Apple totally cares how you've encoded all of your videos.:rolleyes:
 
You can bet that the smaller dock connector will have a Mag-Safe component to it. Apple wouldn't redesign such a ubiquitous I/O without improving its function.
 
ArtOfWarfare said:
Assuming developers made their apps properly (that is, so any measurement based on screen aspect ratio is made at runtime,) then supporting 16:9 and 9:16 won't be an issue.
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That's not necessarily true, it depends on your app. Game developers in particular (i.e. apps not using standard Apple-provided UI elements) are going to have the hardest time. For these apps (which is a very large percentage of those available in the App Store), supporting different aspect ratios is considerably more difficult than supporting other resolutions at the same aspect, although it really depends on the content. If you have an app that uses standard list views, scroll views, tab bars, etc., then yeah, it wouldn't be a big deal. But it could be a huge PITA for game devs, especially independents who don't have the resources to meticulously tailor all their artwork to every aspect ratio. It'll have to be done of course, but it's potentially a huge time sink, time that they spend not coding new apps.
 
I still don't see them using that metal band on the back plate. Either the whole back plate is metal or not (which would probably look cool and would obviously be more durable than glass).

I don't see why the screen can't be larger just already on the existing device; there's already some empty space between the top of the screen and the front-facing camera. Why not bump that up and then increase the overall height of the phone that much less?
 
iansilv said:
What headache? The content display aspect of the programming API simply expands the content display area for 90% of app developers out there. Menus are already at the top and bottom of the screen. This expansion of the middle will happen automatically.
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You mean 90% of non-game developers. And about 60% of the apps on the App Store are games.
 
Drunken Master said:
I don't see why the screen can't be larger just already on the existing device; there's already some empty space between the top of the screen and the front-facing camera.
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I see you've never heard of the iMac. The chin just doesn't go away, no matter how much we complain.
 
charlieegan3 said:
don't like the different coloured back, to like the original iPhone?
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Most users put their phones in protective cases with a color of their choice anyway. So, it really doesn't mater what the new shape or color of the phone is since users will cover it yp in a case anyway.
 
Mr. Gates said:
Anyone else think the phone itself isn't the thing in need of a total redesign, but the OS itself that is starting to suck ?

Almost the same UI as 2007

What gives ?
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Um...because it works? Why completely screw up what's already the best mobile OS on the market when you don't have to? I'm not saying never change it, but to completely scrap it just for the sake of something "new" is silly.
 
What about squeezing 4" screen into same form factor?

See pic. It's a rough look, but I pasted that 4" screen into the 4s form factor, and moved that slot. It's not pretty, but it could work AND fit into my pocket still....
 

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Larrywb said:
See pic. It's a rough look, but I pasted that 4" screen into the 4s form factor, and moved that slot. It's not pretty, but it could work AND fit into my pocket still....
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I would much prefer that to the longer version.
 
HiRez said:
Um...because it works? Why completely screw up what's already the best mobile OS on the market when you don't have to? I'm not saying never change it, but to completely scrap it just for the sake of something "new" is silly.
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I never said scrap it. And saying that it's the best OS is a joke. Android 4.0 is miles ahead.
What I want to see is some forced organization of Apps.
I want to see a central location for files like spreadsheets, word docs, things downloaded from emails....Etc

Endless icons are stupid. A bunch of stuff that you just can't do on iPhone but you can on Android.

Really, the whole OS needs a refresh
 
HiRez said:
That's not necessarily true, it depends on your app. Game developers in particular (i.e. apps not using standard Apple-provided UI elements) are going to have the hardest time. For these apps (which is a very large percentage of those available in the App Store), supporting different aspect ratios is considerably more difficult than supporting other resolutions at the same aspect, although it really depends on the content. If you have an app that uses standard list views, scroll views, tab bars, etc., then yeah, it wouldn't be a big deal. But it could be a huge PITA for game devs, especially independents who don't have the resources to meticulously tailor all their artwork to every aspect ratio. It'll have to be done of course, but it's potentially a huge time sink, time that they spend not coding new apps.
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Oh BS. Do you know how much effort Apple is going to have to go through to modify their UI elements to make them work? None. Why? Because unlike you, they didn't make the elements have fixed widths or aspect ratios. Their lists may be of any height. Their titlebars of any width. You, and many other developers, shouldn't have designed their UIs so that they only worked at one aspect ratio. If you'd used stretchable images and springs and struts and such (IE, just like you should for any Mac OS app, because that platform already has dozens if not hundreds of aspect ratios it needs to support,) it wouldn't be any work for you. I've made games for iOS. I've made utilities with custom views. And any time I have to create a non-standard UI element, I make sure it's scalable so I won't need to change it when I decide I want it in a different spot.
 
omgitswes said:
I don't understand why people are against larger phones though.
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Because a phone that size will not fit in most pockets comfortably nor can it be used one handed by many people. I would categorically reject any phone bigger than 4.3", and even that would have to have a small bezel and low weight for me to consider it.

Extra screen size is nice for things like web and video, but it's an incremental improvement. On the other hand, a 4.8" screen isn't just incrementally more difficult to fit in a pocket than a 4" screen - one works and the other doesn't.
 
Those who are doing the mockups are really doing some ****** work with the back. That looks like complete garbage with it having both glass and metal. One or the other.
 
xStatiCa said:
Bad idea to change the ratio. I have already encoded all my videos (yes there are a lot of them) to the aspect ratio of the iphone which also involved clipping the sides of quite a bit of videos specifically so that I won't have black borders at the top and bottom. This change would now show those videos with black borders on the sides. :mad:

I sure hope they increase the screen in both dimensions to keep the aspect ratio. This would also make apps not have to deal with aspect ratio changes.
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How many videos are we talking about here? Seems like a lot of work... cropping a bunch of videos to a non-standard 960x640.

Just so you know... you can double-tap the screen and have the iPhone zoom in a tiny bit to accomplish the same thing.

But hey... you kept the original files, right?

Of course you did! Because it makes sense to have 2 versions of the same video... the original and the iPhone version. :)
 
I have confirmed information from an unconfirmed source within Apple RD. The next iPhone will have a 4" 3:2 screen on the front. Flip the phone over, and you have a 4" 16:9 screen on the back. Now you can use whatever screen you want. If you try to use an 4:3 designed app in 16:9 mode, a nice message will remind you to turn the phone over. Cases will be designed with magic magnets to swivel around and protect the side you are not viewing. Also, the non viewing side will display the Apple logo and other information currently on the back of iPhones.

Okay, okay, but it that any more ridiculous than all the other rumors clogging up the internets? Until Apple announces anything none of us have anything to go on. Doing mockups is simply a waste of time.
 
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