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What to expect in the second Gen Retina MacBook (Merged)
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HP just put out a laptop that is thinner with a full 15W core CPU :O.
It also has a deeper keyboard :O
Its NOT fanless, and im sure the trackpad is worse, and the screen is almost certainly worse, so Im not claiming its better than the Macbook. Obviously those are huge things, and make the product very different, but still.
Shows the next redesign of the Macbook (hopefully no more than a year or two from now) has a good bit it can have done. http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/5/11365474/hp-spectre-13-announced-price-specs-release-date
It also has a deeper keyboard :O
Its NOT fanless, and im sure the trackpad is worse, and the screen is almost certainly worse, so Im not claiming its better than the Macbook. Obviously those are huge things, and make the product very different, but still.
Shows the next redesign of the Macbook (hopefully no more than a year or two from now) has a good bit it can have done. http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/5/11365474/hp-spectre-13-announced-price-specs-release-date
The fact that it has a Core i5/i7 is impressive. While it is thinner than a rMB, it is also half a pound heavier. It has 9.5hrs of battery life which is also impressive. It has a whopping 3 USB-C ports, which I never thought I would be impressed by but I am. And the screen is 1080p, which makes it only a tad better than a MBA. Boy is it gaudy though. I also don't like the butt it has in the back - reminds me of the Dell Adamo.
I think in reality, this is more of a competitor to the MBA than the rMB. I think the single most important hardware feature of the rMB is the screen, so this isn't a proper competitor.
I'd say it's far more an example of what a 13-14" successor to the MBA13 & rMBP13 might be.
With it's 13.3" screen it's really not that comparable to the 12" Macbook.
While I've been unable to find width and depth dimensions, the screen size alone forces it to be a fair bit wider and deeper than the rMB. Of course that then provides more internal space to support the additional ports and shift the battery cells around to accomodate a deeper keyboard.
Plus it's 20% heavier at 2.45lb vs 2.03lb.
Edit: size of a 13.3" 16:9 display is 29cm x 17cm just for the part you can see and not counting any bezel or surrounding stuff such as the rear extension on this HP laptop. The 12" rMB is 28.05cm x 19.65cm in total, showing it's at least substantially narrower than this HP if not also shallower. (I'm using width as side-to-side, depth as front-to-back, leaving aside height as thickness where the HP does outdo the rMB)
With it's 13.3" screen it's really not that comparable to the 12" Macbook.
While I've been unable to find width and depth dimensions, the screen size alone forces it to be a fair bit wider and deeper than the rMB. Of course that then provides more internal space to support the additional ports and shift the battery cells around to accomodate a deeper keyboard.
Plus it's 20% heavier at 2.45lb vs 2.03lb.
Edit: size of a 13.3" 16:9 display is 29cm x 17cm just for the part you can see and not counting any bezel or surrounding stuff such as the rear extension on this HP laptop. The 12" rMB is 28.05cm x 19.65cm in total, showing it's at least substantially narrower than this HP if not also shallower. (I'm using width as side-to-side, depth as front-to-back, leaving aside height as thickness where the HP does outdo the rMB)
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Dem Bezels tho'.
I also agree with deeddawg, this is more akin to a replacement for the MBA/rMBP. Furthermore, in such as small enclosed space, I somehow doubt it'll get 9.5 hours of usage and the fan will kick in a lot.
yes, we know with windows oem laptops, the battery is a thing that need testing. only the surface book is accurate in the world of oem windows.
so what is on paper needs for sure a test in real world.At apple we always get what we are told for years now
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[doublepost=1459886074][/doublepost]and hp says up to 9h and 30 min battery usage, on their web site says up to 9 hours, and i put my money that in real life another 30min or even 1h will be cut
and i bet the macbook from 9 REAL hours will get 10 Real hours with next skylake cpu
so what is on paper needs for sure a test in real world.At apple we always get what we are told for years now
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yea in the back of the device...its a desktop or a laptop?3 usb ports though... Your turn Apple
[doublepost=1459886074][/doublepost]and hp says up to 9h and 30 min battery usage, on their web site says up to 9 hours, and i put my money that in real life another 30min or even 1h will be cut
and i bet the macbook from 9 REAL hours will get 10 Real hours with next skylake cpu3 usb ports though... Your turn Apple
I believe all are looking forward to what happens with the 13.3" screen size Macs such as the MBA13 and MBP/rMBP13.
I don't really think that HP is comparable to the rMB. The screen size, as I showed above, clearly makes it substantially wider and deeper. I'm curious to see the actual numbers though.
With OEMs starting to produce nice machines with minimal bezels, I find it progressively harder to seriously consider one with bezels as large as what that one has. If they had done something about that and then released it, it would have made my short list.
I'm not a fan of the chrome finish on the back, and if it's just painted plastic, it will rub off on the corners and edges over time, and will look like total crap. Still, that's something I can probably live with, so doesn't really affect whether or not it makes my short list. That bezel is unforgivable though, after seeing the latest Dell XPS 13 and 15. It hints at a level of compromise and/or pure laziness in the design with which I would not be comfortable.
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i wonder if this will be able to work on the new Macbook
https://pikeralpha.wordpress.com/2016/04/06/macbook91-will-be-the-first-mac-ever-to-support-hwp/
or its just for MBP?
https://pikeralpha.wordpress.com/2016/04/06/macbook91-will-be-the-first-mac-ever-to-support-hwp/
or its just for MBP?
from the same blog: https://pikeralpha.wordpress.com/2016/03/23/new-macbook91-frequency-data-found/
i wonder if the m3 processor will mean a 999$ entry level model. current base model has an "m5" right?
i somewhat have a feeling they will also drop storage to 128gb for that entry level...
i wonder if the m3 processor will mean a 999$ entry level model. current base model has an "m5" right?
i somewhat have a feeling they will also drop storage to 128gb for that entry level...
If all you want it ports, there are plenty of 13.3" laptops available already. Why the focus on this one that you can't even preorder for three weeks and can't buy for a month and a half?
It's funny how HP doesn't give the width and depth specs, other than the 13.3" screen. Based on the pictures, I expect this won't be too different than the Spectre x360 from last year, though perhaps a bit deeper to accomodate that bling-bar on the back.
If true, that makes the HP nearly 30% bigger than the rMB. The x360 was 12.79" x 8.6" (32.4cm x 21.8cm). Substantially bigger than the rMB's petite 11.04" x 7.74" (28.05cm x 19.65cm) dimensions.
Im just saying that now Apple can't get away with their "one usb port but look how thin it is BS"
My dream notebook would be a 13 MBA with better screen and maybe smaller bezels. Enough ports, nice keyboard, great battery life, MagSafe...
Apple would need to make the rMB thicker or have a larger footprint. HP is a 13.3" screen with large bezel and bar in the back for the ports. Not an apples:apples comparison.
Yet I don't think thickness has been the defining factor. When you add 4-5cm width and 2-3cm depth there's lots of room for ports, as evidenced with the HP. Yet once again you're comparing a MBP13/MBA13 size laptop with the 12" rMB.Im just saying that now Apple can't get away with their "one usb port but look how thin it is BS"
It'll be interesting to see what Apple does with the MBA13 and rMBP13s this year. You may yet have your hope.
Im just saying that now Apple can't get away with their "one usb port but look how thin it is BS"
My dream notebook would be a 13 MBA with better screen and maybe smaller bezels. Enough ports, nice keyboard, great battery life, MagSafe...
I love thin devices. The thinner they are, the more I use them because they can adapt more readily to different environments. For example, writing code with a pet, infant, toddler on my lap.
It also has 2 fans.
Affects noise, battery, thickness, weight, quality of life, etc.
BJ
Exactly. One of the main reasons keeping me from Windows Laptops is the trackpad. Even if Windows 10 was on par with OS X, OEM trackpads are still behind. The Surface Book is the closest anyone has come to matching Apple's trackpads, but still, there's a difference.
Still, will be interesting to see what Apple has in store for the rMBP, rMB and even possibly the MBA in the upcoming months.
Its funny how you get used to the retina screen to the exclusion of all other screens. At first the difference seems negligible but after a couple of years, when you look at a retina and non-retina side by side, you are like WTF is that shvt
Yes, this is a competitor to the MBA. Of all Apple's laptops, it's the one that's most in need of a redesign, including a retina display. I think that Apple will merge the rMB and MBA - the "new MBA" will look more like the rMB, but with more ports, faster CPUs, more storage, etc., but not up to MBP levels. In that scenario, there will be MacBooks and Macbook Pros.
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