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I think the idea was to give the impression that the product was classy, or sort of "aspirational"; really upmarket cars, for example, has real wood veneers on the dash.
Good point! IIRC Rolls Royce and possibly even Jag offered wood veneers for the dash and other interior panels way back when. (I believe even more marques still do today.) My first car ('71 Fiat Spider 850) was keen to look sharp and had a faux wood veneer. When I was modding my last car I almost bought a hand-shaped wood shift knob for the manual transmission shifter. Ended up with stainless steel, but the wood offerings were very classy and attractive.
 
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On my mind: the peaches recall (salmonella) in the USA, originating in California but distributed to many states through large retail vendors. Whatever one thinks about the CDC or FDA at this point they are still very good at tracking down sources of disease and infection.


The recall was expanded August 22nd in the US and was also listed by the Canadian food safety authorities on August 23rd. The FDA warns against consuming any Prima Wawona peaches packed or supplied between June 1st and August 3rd, and asks that anyone who has purchased these peaches throw them away and aggressively sanitize any kitchen equipment on which they may have been cut or prepared.​
 
Oh, my......a peach contamination! That news is not too peachy, is it? (Sorry, couldn't resist!). I never buy peaches -- don't really care for them, so I guess I'm safe.
I’m not keen on the fuzz either. Can’t remember the last time I ate any fruit to be honest. Eat plenty of vegetables though.
 
Oh, my......a peach contamination! That news is not too peachy, is it? (Sorry, couldn't resist!). I never buy peaches -- don't really care for them, so I guess I'm safe.
I’m not keen on the fuzz either. Can’t remember the last time I ate any fruit to be honest. Eat plenty of vegetables though.

Actually, I love the sensation of that "fuzz" - you get it on apricots - which I adore - as well.
 
I recall the days when TV’s or even game consoles were made to look like they were made of wood! Very strange.
Yeah, like the faux wood panel/trim on the Atari 2600. The hell was that about lol

I am not that old, but IIRC wood resembled luxury back then and adding wood to products made them look higher quality. I still say adding wood finish makes things look "classy", its just not the popular taste now days.

The 60s and 70s were all about brown, beige, and yellow. People somehow suddenly discovered colors in the 80s. My big guess it had something to do with manufacturing technology where it was expensive/complicated to make colourful furniture, I mean until recently I heard Apple kept delaying white iPhones because they couldn't get it right or something like that. Not sure how colourful homes were prior to 60s but older buildings like Versailles and Buckingham palace seem colourful enough.
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I always chuckle at design conversations in the context of things like phone or computer designs are "bland", when the same people have dwellings that have beige carpet, beige walls, a black pleather sofa. Colors? Our house has Flaming Sword red, Royal Pacific blue, Key Lime green, Dark Espresso brown, Chinese Sunrise yellow, color changes across walls in the same room - we've got an amazing mix of style, color, old, new, custom lighting, 80 year old Asian antiques mixed with contemporary art, a huge collection of original movie posters, Heywood-Wakefield and Herman Miller / Noguchi furniture, our house was featured in magazines, so yeah, we get not being bland :)

Wow your home seems offbeat the typical standard, I would be interested to see any pictures of it in any magazines.
 
My mother.

Today, had she lived, - she died just before midnight on December 21, 2018 - she would have been 90, a big birthday, one with a zero.

We would have had a party for her - as we had every year - complete with cakes and music, and she would have loved being the centre of attention, and having a big fuss made of her.

Happy Birthday, Mother. Love you, miss you. I'll raise a glass of Something Nice to you this evening.
 
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On my mind: the peaches recall (salmonella) in the USA, originating in California but distributed to many states through large retail vendors. Whatever one thinks about the CDC or FDA at this point they are still very good at tracking down sources of disease and infection.


The recall was expanded August 22nd in the US and was also listed by the Canadian food safety authorities on August 23rd. The FDA warns against consuming any Prima Wawona peaches packed or supplied between June 1st and August 3rd, and asks that anyone who has purchased these peaches throw them away and aggressively sanitize any kitchen equipment on which they may have been cut or prepared.​
This makes me even more happy that I brought my peaches from frog hollow farms. buy local.

I am pretty sure I’m going to pass up on the chance to go into management. i was torn because 1) it’s an opportunity to have it under my resume, management experience and 2) it’s with a team I for the most part like but it’s not a role I’m passionate about and the amount is nowhere near what one in sales would bring.

and I need more money for what I want to afford/do.

so now I’m going to stick in my role, which pays about 15% less than what I would in management for a chance to double or triple my pay down the line. 🤞🏻🤞🏻

(also not getting any younger 😂😂😂)
 
This makes me even more happy that I brought my peaches from frog hollow farms. buy local.

I am pretty sure I’m going to pass up on the chance to go into management. i was torn because 1) it’s an opportunity to have it under my resume, management experience and 2) it’s with a team I for the most part like but it’s not a role I’m passionate about and the amount is nowhere near what one in sales would bring.

and I need more money for what I want to afford/do.

so now I’m going to stick in my role, which pays about 15% less than what I would in management for a chance to double or triple my pay down the line. 🤞🏻🤞🏻

(also not getting any younger 😂😂😂)
But doesn’t the sales manager earn more than the sales team? That’s how it works at our place.
 
But doesn’t the sales manager earn more than the sales team? That’s how it works at our place.
Nope.

sales manager may make 200-300k (if the location is strong enough and the sales team as a whole makes their goal) while the sales person can make anywhere from $300k-$1mm or above $1mm depending on the year.
 
Nope.

sales manager may make 200-300k (if the location is strong enough and the sales team as a whole makes their goal) while the sales person can make anywhere from $300k-$1mm or above $1mm depending on the year.
Not how it works where I am.

After a busy day my neck is not my friend. Just taken some pain killers and had a hot shower. Cleaning moss of our roof to stop it blocking the gutters. Not a fun job, but necessary. Trouble with a single story house. The roof is so big! More to do next weekend weather permitting.
 
After a busy day my neck is not my friend. Just taken some pain killers and had a hot shower.

I feel you on this! neck stretching seems to help for me. That and trying not to sleep wrong... that further aggravates it along with poor posture.

Not how it works where I am.
Yeah, I saw you’re from the UK.

here sales managers never make as much as sales people unless your title is sales manager but really you’re a sales person under the guise of sales manager and the person you report to is a director (who makes a lot less) and you yourself don’t really manage anyone under you, but instead you manage clients.
 
Not how it works where I am.


I think what they're leaving out is the compensation model. Typically a Sales Manager type role will have a larger base salary and some kind of performance based bonus, so for example, they might make $150K, and see up to another $50K-100K in performance bonus. A Salesperson, might have a smaller base salary, let's say $50K, but get a 5% commission, so some generating $10M in sales might see a total of $550K. Of course, they may not be pushing that kind of sales revenue, or have an off quarter/year, i.e., commission based sales occupations can be all over the place in terms of comp, every month/Q/year.
 
Yeah, sorry I thought that was a given.

sales being commission so you always get a % of the sales or in some cases that’s all you make, no low wage salary as a minimum.
 
I feel you on this! neck stretching seems to help for me. That and trying not to sleep wrong... that further aggravates it along with poor posture.


Yeah, I saw you’re from the UK.

here sales managers never make as much as sales people unless your title is sales manager but really you’re a sales person under the guise of sales manager and the person you report to is a director (who makes a lot less) and you yourself don’t really manage anyone under you, but instead you manage clients.
I have stretches that my chiropractor gets me to do. But I have scoliosis so neck pain is a given if I over do things. The joy of getting old.
 
Often wearing shorts, I walk into the grocery frequently carrying my wallet and phone in my hand because I don’t want to load my pockets up. But about 6 months ago I set my phone down on the top part of a shopping cart and then left it in the parking lot with the phone in it. I was very lucky that someone handed it in to the grocery store’s lost and found.

About a week ago I did have the phone in my pocket, but when I left the store and sat down in my car, it was gone! Sometimes, due to the short pockets, it will fall out as I sit, in the space between the drivers seat and the door. This time it was not there, and with that sinking feeling, I came close to resigning that it was gone. It turned out that the phone had fallen out and had slipped all the way under the car seat.

So as infrequent as these occurrences are, I have purchased a phone lanyard and will just have to hang it around my neck, and just look like the old person I am. :oops: I returned the first one, an older model because the straps that hold the phone covered the buttons on both sides. The newer model works well and does not cover the phone‘s buttons.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B08BCQRTYQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
 
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Often wearing shorts, I walk into the grocery frequently carrying my wallet and phone in my hand because I don’t want to load my pockets up. But about 6 months ago I set my phone down on the top part of a shopping cart and then left it in the parking lot with the phone in it. I was very lucky that someone handed it in to the grocery store’s lost and found.

Funny that this is brought up today of all days. Obviously there's nothing funny about what you wrote, but rather the fact that in the past seven or so days I've ran after four people after they've absent mindedly left their phones in their shopping carts and left the store, and on top of those I found a phone in a park and gave it to a couple of police officers patrolling on horseback. Not really fond of horses, as beautiful creatures as they are, so it was a bit intimidating approaching the officers.

Staying on the topic of phones, I dropped mine some time ago. Cracked the back glass, and one of the camera lenses exploded. The other two, not a scratch on them, but the third one basically was no more, just a hole. Got a loaner while the repair store orders a new one for me, and I'm already noticing that I might spend a little too much time on the phone on a normal day. I haven't bothered to install any of my apps on the loaner, and apart from a few calls and texts it's been sitting on the table. Obviously there was some essential, necessary to have stuff on the phone that I need to reinstall once the new one arrives, but I'm kind of enjoying not having to use a phone all that much.
 
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Often wearing shorts, I walk into the grocery frequently carrying my wallet and phone in my hand because I don’t want to load my pockets up. But about 6 months ago I set my phone down on the top part of a shopping cart and then left it in the parking lot with the phone in it. I was very lucky that someone handed it in to the grocery store’s lost and found.

About a week ago I did have the phone in my pocket, but when I left the store and sat down in my car, it was gone! Sometimes, due to the short pockets, it will fall out as I sit, in the space between the drivers seat and the door. This time it was not there, and with that sinking feeling, I came close to resigning that it was gone. It turned out that the phone had fallen out and had slipped all the way under the car seat.

So as I frequent as these occurrences are, I have purchased a phone lanyard and will just have to hand it around my neck, and just look like the old person I am. :oops: I returned the first one, an older model because the straps that hold the phone covered the buttons on both sides. The newer model works well and does not cover the phone‘s buttons.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B08BCQRTYQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Ah, when masked, my glasses both kept steaming up, and falling off, therefore, I have had to invest in lanyards, which I wear whenever I head out, and find them invaluable.
 
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