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OP, you and many others are wondering why there hasn't been a refresh. Where I fail to see the hostility is that the current gen available is still a highly capable machine, is it not?
 
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Where I fail to see the hostility is that the current gen available is still a highly capable machine, is it not?

It is, until you compare it to the potential of what the 2012 should be, particularly with the GPU options. And then there's that nagging part about paying full retail for outdated tech.
 
Let me rephrase my previous answer for you. It's clear you haven't understood me.

The silence is normal. It has nothing to do with AAPL's success. The gap between updates is not a factor which will contribute to Apple's silence.

The 'old' Apple - I assume you're talking about the PPC era - was exactly like this. As I said, if you want to know the future of your favourite product line, Apple is not the company for you. Expect to be left in the dark.

Of course I don't know what your needs are. I do, however, know that your needs are not things which either the new or old Apple can accomplish - your requirement for Mr. Cook to bare all about the iMac.

I'm afraid my last line of advice may seem harsh, but I believe it's the truth - Shut up and sit tight. There will either be a new iMac, you'll buy another Mac or you will buy a PC. Those are the categories which your needs fit into.

Well this is quite obvious as its obvious that i need a Mac while my old 2006 MacBook is givin me kernel panics for this heat we have here (40 degrees),and its obvious that i won't have Cook at my door sayin,"hey this your Imac",but i won't buy an old (even if still great) 2011 piece of tech for that money.
So i will shut up with wallet well closed too.
 
It is, until you compare it to the potential of what the 2012 should be, particularly with the GPU options. And then there's that nagging part about paying full retail for outdated tech.
I agree about the paying full retail for "outdated" tech; however, we've seen Apple use almost outdated tech all too often in their newer refreshes, haven't we?
 
But the thing is, both of these are nothing new. iPhone parts end up on the internet. There's too much money to be made by the people selling those pictures. It's worth incurring wrath of Apple.

iMac parts, not so much.


From where I'm sitting, I see literally no difference between "old Apple" and today, unless by "old Apple" you mean from the time before the iPod was introduced.

No..i mean.i remember when Apple was more..regular..its something i cannot explain,Jobs wasn't perfect (the fact to use poor workers to maximize profits in a land without any rights)but damn all he did was so unique...you could count on him,he was working to generate our Wow factor,to bring the future right in your home,with Cook i fear other reasons than these are dominating Apple today,things like AAPL,BOARD..and this stupid useless delay is giving me a bitter sensation.
Laminated Issues sound like a comfortable lie to still sell the old tech,while Apple turns completelymto Itoyz corner,a dead corner,very large and rich but closed.
 
No..i mean.i remember when Apple was more..regular..

Laminated Issues sound like a comfortable lie to still sell the old tech.

I spent a lot of time going through Wikipedia and other sources to get a feel for Apple's releases since at least 1999. There has only ever been one product with a regular release schedule, not allowed to age more than about 300 days: the professional laptop. Everything else is all over the place. (And even the laptop had that period where all they could do was get a marginally faster G4 into it since they couldn't cool down the G5 enough.)

And the old tech really isn't selling. Apple isn't benefitting at all from not releasing a new model.
 
I spent a lot of time going through Wikipedia and other sources to get a feel for Apple's releases since at least 1999. There has only ever been one product with a regular release schedule, not allowed to age more than about 300 days: the professional laptop. Everything else is all over the place. (And even the laptop had that period where all they could do was get a marginally faster G4 into it since they couldn't cool down the G5 enough.)

And the old tech really isn't selling. Apple isn't benefitting at all from not releasing a new model.

So..what?Without any benefits whats the goal of this?Even a little rumor,
as "Imac are coming before black friday",would help them,its easy,i don't understand this behaviour,i hope there's a real good reason behind it,
i don't doubt it but this waiting isn't on par with out trust and loyalty we are demonstrating here,Cook won't never knock at my door but he should look here and see this ,i hope he knows about it,even if i don't trust him(sorry) i owe all my respect for his work and this is the point,till here it seems rather weak compared with..well you know,and with regularity i didn't mean exact timing ...i meant reliabilty..sort of,i'm not sure Cook is driving Apple on the same trails Job did,too much heads,too much power,too much money,Jobs was the king ,they're are like knights without a direction,thats why i'm scared about the Itoys fever.
 
I spent a lot of time going through Wikipedia and other sources to get a feel for Apple's releases since at least 1999. There has only ever been one product with a regular release schedule, not allowed to age more than about 300 days: the professional laptop. Everything else is all over the place. (And even the laptop had that period where all they could do was get a marginally faster G4 into it since they couldn't cool down the G5 enough.)

And the old tech really isn't selling. Apple isn't benefitting at all from not releasing a new model.

Next time save yourself the time and just go here:
https://buyersguide.macrumors.com//
:)
 
So..what?Without any benefits whats the goal of this?Even a little rumor,
as "Imac are coming before black friday",would help them,its easy,i don't understand this behaviour,i hope there's a real good reason behind it,
i don't doubt it but this waiting isn't on par with out trust and loyalty we are demonstrating here,Cook won't never knock at my door but he should look here and see this ,i hope he knows about it,even if i don't trust him(sorry) i owe all my respect for his work and this is the point,till here it seems rather weak compared with..well you know,and with regularity i didn't mean exact timing ...i meant reliabilty..sort of,i'm not sure Cook is driving Apple on the same trails Job did,too much heads,too much power,too much money,Jobs was the king ,they're are like knights without a direction,thats why i'm scared about the Itoys fever.

Lets all blame Tim Cook because he controls every single tiny little detail in a multi-billion dollar company right down to the designing of the new iMac. Him and Jony Ives are in the engineering lab trying to figure things out. :rolleyes:
 
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So..what?Without any benefits whats the goal of this?Even a little rumor,
as "Imac are coming before black friday",would help them,its easy,i don't understand this behaviour,i hope there's a real good reason behind it,
i don't doubt it but this waiting isn't on par with out trust and loyalty we are demonstrating here,Cook won't never knock at my door but he should look here and see this ,i hope he knows about it,even if i don't trust him(sorry) i owe all my respect for his work and this is the point,till here it seems rather weak compared with..well you know,and with regularity i didn't mean exact timing ...i meant reliabilty..sort of,i'm not sure Cook is driving Apple on the same trails Job did,too much heads,too much power,too much money,Jobs was the king ,they're are like knights without a direction,thats why i'm scared about the Itoys fever.

I feel like the Apple you remember only exists in your head. There is absolutely nothing different between what's happening now and what's happened many times in Apple's history.

Apple is trying some new, unproven technology. There's an issue with it, and causing a delay in it coming out. Rather than compromise and going back to an older design, they're pushing forward, will release the product when it's ready, and meanwhile don't tell the consumers what's happening. --This has happened many times before, and will happen many times again.

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Next time save yourself the time and just go here:
https://buyersguide.macrumors.com//
:)

That was one of the "Other sources". But I wanted some older data too, and that only goes back to about 2008 for most products.
 
There sure seem to be a lot of Apple experts here that seem to think they know exactly what is going on. We really don't have a clue about any of it. Just idle speculation.
 
I'm not an expert and i have an impression in my head,who don't think as you its wrong.
OK.I'm wrong,but if its all good here why these tons of thread?
Is it all as you want?
Let close it with this all ,but doing this there won't be any place to say..
"i have the truth,you are just wrong".
I'm wrong and there's no New Imac and for God's sake i wish to hav never
the truth in my pockets.
 
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There sure seem to be a lot of Apple experts here that seem to think they know exactly what is going on. We really don't have a clue about any of it. Just idle speculation.

Of course none of us truly know anything.. but if we're not going to take available rumors and salt them with some history and logic and research of available components to draw our own conculsions, then there isn't a whole lot of point to hanging out on a rumors site.
 
lets just hope that we start hearing some stuff when september comes around. or maybe imac rumors gonna get overshadowed again by stupid rumors concerning the battery life or some other issues of the iphone 5. and of course the rumor sites are going to be saying the same thing over and over again which is what pisses me off the most. They keep reporting the same thing on the iphone over and over again.. ive contacted them saying that we need to hear something new for once! WERE Sick and tired of the iphone RUMORS!!
 
lets just hope that we start hearing some stuff when september comes around. or maybe imac rumors gonna get overshadowed again by stupid rumors concerning the battery life or some other issues of the iphone 5. and of course the rumor sites are going to be saying the same thing over and over again which is what pisses me off the most. They keep reporting the same thing on the iphone over and over again.. ive contacted them saying that we need to hear something new for once! WERE Sick and tired of the iphone RUMORS!!

You got a mouse in your pocket? I'm not sick of iPhone 5 rumors (going to buy one), but I am disappointed at the lack of iMac rumors.
 
You got a mouse in your pocket? I'm not sick of iPhone 5 rumors (going to buy one), but I am disappointed at the lack of iMac rumors.

yeah but how many times weve heard that the iphone will have a smaller dock connector ?? its not been once of twice. how many times weve heard about the 2012 imac ? yep thats right barely anything at all. I will buy a new iphone when it comes out as well i just to hear about something i dont know about. The imac way more overdue for an refresh than the iphone yet weve heard so little about it. How about we get some "news" or "rumors" about something we dont know about like the imacs. Thats all im saying.
 
Obviously there wasn't something new "right around the corner" when the 2011 iMac came out.

ROFL owned.
 
yeah but how many times weve heard that the iphone will have a smaller dock connector ?? its not been once of twice. how many times weve heard about the 2012 imac ? yep thats right barely anything at all. I will buy a new iphone when it comes out as well i just to hear about something i dont know about. The imac way more overdue for an refresh than the iphone yet weve heard so little about it. How about we get some "news" or "rumors" about something we dont know about like the imacs. Thats all im saying.

There are a few other things I think you should invest in before a new computer or iPhone, but if I say it the mods might get upset again. They hate when folks tell the truth on this forum.
 
There are a few other things I think you should invest in before a new computer or iPhone, but if I say it the mods might get upset again. They hate when folks tell the truth on this forum.

its nice to point out things when you dont know my whole situation. Thats all im saying you cant just say go invest on other things because you dont know the position i am. Im a starting videographer and i dont have a lot of money i just want to start some sort of small business and i want to invert the little bit of money i have in something good to start, ive spent lots of money on my video gear the only thing missing from the puzzle is a good computer. With that said i dont have a lot of money and i want to maximize my money as much as i could so buying an outdated machine is out of the question. I want a new imac a 2012 not 2011 imac with a 2012 tag. Im hard working person and i dont have a lot of money i cant just go ahead pay premium price for a 2011 machine, investing in old tech is not the way to go in my book to start out, and thats not the end of the story. So before some of you start being smartasses and start posting stuff without knowing the whole story think about what youre going to say and ask yourself if you know the whole thing because you dont know in what position all of us are. Not everyone is the same position as others so dont assume anything.
 
its nice to point out things when you dont know my whole situation. Thats all im saying you cant just say go invest on other things because you dont know the position i am. Im a starting videographer and i dont have a lot of money i just want to start some sort of small business and i want to invert the little bit of money i have in something good to start, ive spent lots of money on my video gear the only thing missing from the puzzle is a good computer. With that said i dont have a lot of money ...

So, is the lack of a good computer actually costing you money right now? If you had a 2012 iMac today, could you be earning money that you can't earn right now?

If that's the case, then how much money have you lost by waiting?

I'm just pointing out that there may be value in waiting for the latest tech in order to get the longest use out of it. But, if you've lost (for example) a $1000 over the period of waiting, then you might as well have a 2011 model and just get an earlier upgrade than you planned in a couple of years time.
 
So, is the lack of a good computer actually costing you money right now? If you had a 2012 iMac today, could you be earning money that you can't earn right now?

If that's the case, then how much money have you lost by waiting?

I'm just pointing out that there may be value in waiting for the latest tech in order to get the longest use out of it. But, if you've lost (for example) a $1000 over the period of waiting, then you might as well have a 2011 model and just get an earlier upgrade than you planned in a couple of years time.

while you do have some good point i want to remind you i said before you dont know the whole story.. and im not going to waste my time explaining. Its more complicated than that. You cant just assume things.
 
So, is the lack of a good computer actually costing you money right now? If you had a 2012 iMac today, could you be earning money that you can't earn right now?

If that's the case, then how much money have you lost by waiting?

I'm just pointing out that there may be value in waiting for the latest tech in order to get the longest use out of it. But, if you've lost (for example) a $1000 over the period of waiting, then you might as well have a 2011 model and just get an earlier upgrade than you planned in a couple of years time.

I'm in a strange situation of being a self funded start up. I've purchased a few macs for my team, but it's hard to spend much more on machines that are so old, especially when new tech may be dropping soon. There isn't a good option for a desktop solution through apple right now.
 
Between the new iPad and the new iPhone, there probably isn't enough productive capacity for the iMac. It's probably next in the queue.
 
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