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Where is Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger)?
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Ahhh... I think I understand!~loserman~ said:
The best performing kernal (OS) would be tailored to a specific CPU/GPU/RAM/BUS/etc. configuration.
If Apple supports multiples, they compromise the kernal.
Apple could distribute/install multiple kernals (and maybe they do)-- but at some point there are diminishing returns-- may be better off not supporting older configurations because they are already supported in current OS.
Apple does support Tiger on G3s, but I am unclear whether you will be able to install it on a non-firewire, non-DVD G3.
Parrot said:
I don't need Tiger pre-installed, i just need it to come with (or pay the $20)...Plus, i'm going to buy my PB BTO, will that make a difference? Also, what is the cutoff for the $20 "Shipping" charge....if i buy today, and Tiger is released in 2 weeks, would i get that deal?
Nope.brian4610 said:
Let's try and make this a bit clearer (for you and everyone else who isn't sure);
If you buy a new machine right now, it'll come with Panther. If you want Tiger, you'll have to pay $129 when it's in stores.
If, like yourself, you want Tiger but want a new machine now, you have to wait until Apple comes out officially and states that Tiger will be released on a particular date. From that moment on, any machine bought on or after that date will be eligible for a 'free' Tiger upgrade - you have to pay a $20 shipping and handling fee, but life could be worse. Let me reiterate: if you want Tiger and don't want to pay $129, WAIT until Apple announces that it's coming out officially.
If, on the other hand, you want Tiger preinstalled on your machine(s) - you might be buying a few Macs for a business or school - then you'll have to wait for about a month and a half after the actual release of Tiger. So if that's April 15th, then very late May or early April. Obviously, this only applies to new-new machines from the factory - if you buy a machine that previously had Panther on it and is in the inventory channel, then I think dealers tend to bung in a set of Tiger disks, though I'm not entirely sure.
dicklacara said:
Correct observation on the kernel. Apple is using the same kernel for all the support platforms.
System Requirements from Tiger DVD.
Read Before You Install
Mac OS X Read this document before you install Mac OS X.
It includes information about supported computers, system requirements, and installing Mac OS X.
For more information about Mac OS X, visit this website: www.apple.com/macosx/
For the latest information about using Mac OS X, connect to the Internet and open Mac Help.
To open Mac Help, click the Help menu in the Finder and choose Mac Help. For information about the support available for this product, see the AppleCare Software Services and Support Guide included with Mac OS X.
System requirements
You must have a Macintosh computer with:
a PowerPC G3, G4, or G5 processor
a DVD drive
built-in FireWire
at least 256 MB of RAM
a built-in display or a display connected to an Apple-supplied video card supported by your computer
at least 3 GB of disk space available, or 4 GB if you install the developer tools
If you see a message in the Installer that you do not have enough disk space to install Mac OS X, you can deselect items to save space. To deselect items, click Custom Install in the Easy Install panel.
Could it be possible that Tigers actually going to be announced and sold at NAB? What I mean is durring MacWorld 2005 Steve liked to announce for some products that they'd be available day 1 so I dont know if thats the type of thing Steve wants to do with Tiger, announce it durring NAB where all the cameras will be rolling and he can announce its already at the stores etc.
MacNoobie said:
At this point that is probably the best guess for release/Announcement.
I do think it is done now, although I'm not 100% convinced That 8A428 is the GM build. Then again it might be.
iGary said:
Evidently, 25,000+ users who've viewed this thread.
It'll happen when it happens.
Wow, breaking news. Thanks for your insight into the situation!
J@ffa said:Evidently, 25,000+ users who've viewed this thread.
Wow, breaking news. Thanks for your insight into the situation!
How True.
~loserman~ said:
I don't know where you got that information from, possibly a development release? As far as I'm aware, all pre-release versions were being supplied on DVD's.
There is no way Apple will release Tiger on DVD only. There may be an option to buy it as a DVD. There are still many machines around with CD-ROM or CDRW only, including education machines such as eMacs and iBooks that until very recently had options for no DVD drive. These machines might still be available to buy new, I've not checked. Many mac users on older G3 & G4 powermacs and G3 iMacs would also be stuffed.
Apple have had a pretty good track record for older hardware supporting newer OS's. I would never say they're guilty of not supporting machines in order to force users to upgrade hardware. Apple software is used for this, programs such as iLife and iChat AV could run fine on slower machines but Apple enforce a strict 'minimum mhz' rule that's a load of tosh.
I'll eat my own face off if Tiger is DVD only.
mac-er said:
ahh - there's just so much love in this place. It's like the loving family that I never had...
J@ffa said:Evidently, 25,000+ users who've viewed this thread.
Wow, breaking news. Thanks for your insight into the situation!
Seriously, who cares?
Two announce dates have passed. What's next, Ms. Cleo?
It's received 25,000 views, not necessarily by 25,000 individuals who have viewed it.
Move along, nothing to see here.
TMA said:
That was a copy and paste off of the Tiger DVD.
Here is some funny info for you. All of the seeds so far except for one have been Tiger on DVD with OS X 10.4 Server coming on CD's.
While I can't tell you if Apple plans on selling Tiger on CD(I think you probably will be able to order it that way) All I can say for certain is how they have been delivering it as seeds. It has been DVD only so far.
iGary said:
Why did you post all that crap? No-one cares! Get over it! ROFL111ELEVENONE!!!
iGary said:
Au contraire!
aclose72 said:that would be quite difficult and probably painful...
for your sake, i hope you're right.
A flying limo? Now I've seen everything!
Have you ever seen a man eat his own head?
What? NO!
Then you *haven't* seen everything!
~loserman~ said:
I suspect it's probably easier for Apple to dish out seeds on the single format. Lower costs and less time producing. Are those seeds even pressed or are they just burned?
How often do you re-install your OS? The slight inconvenience of changing a CD once or twice during install can't be that much of a problem. I still think Tiger will be released on 3 or possibly 4 CD's. MAYBE an option for a DVD retail box.
On a side note, I work for a large UK Apple Reseller, and we've had nothing yet in the way of part codes, POS or stock. Getting Apple stock in the UK as a whole is generally a slower process than in the US, especially with things like displays and literature. So if Apple wants the release date to be world wide I would expect to see something in the next few days if the Tiger release is going to be soon.
TMA said:
Just checked. They were pressed not burned. I'm not saying they wont offer CD version( I think they will) but it isn't in the System Requirements and they haven't delivered them that way so far.