Who else plans to get the Apple Watch Hermès?

[Enygmatic]

Well for starters the Watch OS 2 is probably going to allow the user to set a maximum duration of 70 seconds, which means those screens are going to get a lot more eyeball time. And obviously Apple is not going to allow unvetted watch faces to be sold in their stores, which I hope is the biggest stumbling block for Apple to allow developers to start selling custom faces, and the reason we haven't seen it yet. But there is no reason they should be restricting the user from creating their own watch face, if only placing a photo behind any of the current 6 generic options (just like I can make a custom ringtone for my iPhone out of any music I own), which begs the question what's the real reason behind Apple's sluggish rollout on offering them? Why won't they let me have a picture of my dog with just clock hands centered on her nose? It would make me smile every time I saw it. And there's absolutely no technical reason for them not to allow that.

The Watch debuted with 10 watch faces, 4 of them variations on the same simple analogue design. And now they're adding just two more variations on the simple digital clock? Compare that to the iPod Nano watch faces, which ended its run with 18 notably distinct watch faces, including Minnie Mouse, Kermit the frog and Animal. By all accounts Apple was controlling the options, though it's hard to say for sure since by the time they released the 1.2 update with all those faces, Apple was most likely already talking about doing the Watch. Who knows maybe they would have added the ability to import custom watch faces, if they hand't decided to go into the watch business. But the fact they recognized just 4 years ago the impact of choice over the watch faces for customers that they released 18 of them, along with 4 trademarked and licensed options, suggests there's another agenda here other than technological limitations of 1.0 software.

Lot of typing there... my point remains: who knows? It could be a complex situation, or something as simple as 'they didn't consider it yet'. Just because an option that you may want doesn't exist (yet) doesn't mean Apple is secretly trying to kill you or your dog. The Watch has been available for about 5 months now. That's it. Comparing its customization offerings to those of a multi-year product is silly at this point. I'm contemplating developing for the Watch, and am running OS 2 - this will be its FIRST stable, usable software release (arguably). The Watch has a few areas it needs to improve upon for any hope of fulfilling all of Apple's lofty goals - and a damn Kermit face isn't one of them. The fact is that collaborations like this Hermès one will attract more customers to the product line. Apple could very well be working on a way to allow personal photos as background images with other faces - which is more difficult than it would appear, with issues concerning visibility, contrast, usability, etc. (Graphics needing to change based on the colors of a custom photo, especially... there's a lot more entailed than just putting a picture behind any face you may want.) Regardless of how many times you say it, there's a reason why Apple's chosen (so far) to only allow custom images with a standard, complication-less, digital face.

Back to the thread... wife's definitely getting the Hermès double tour, unless she can somehow just get the band. (I told her the lugs won't match with her Space Black case; she says that's not a big deal. I say it's grounds for divorce.)

 

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Lot of typing there... my point remains: who knows? It could be a complex situation, or something as simple as 'they didn't consider it yet'. Just because an option that you may want doesn't exist (yet) doesn't mean Apple is secretly trying to kill you or your dog. The Watch has been available for about 5 months now. That's it. Comparing its customization offerings to those of a multi-year product is silly at this point. I'm contemplating developing for the Watch, and am running OS 2 - this will be its FIRST stable, usable software release (arguably). The Watch has a few areas it needs to improve upon for any hope of fulfilling all of Apple's lofty goals - and a damn Kermit face isn't one of them. The fact is that collaborations like this Hermès one will attract more customers to the product line. Apple could very well be working on a way to allow personal photos as background images with other faces - which is more difficult than it would appear, with issues concerning visibility, contrast, usability, etc. (Graphics needing to change based on the colors of a custom photo, especially... there's a lot more entailed than just putting a picture behind any face you may want.) Regardless of how many times you say it, there's a reason why Apple's chosen (so far) to only allow custom images with a standard, complication-less, digital face.

Back to the thread... wife's definitely getting the Hermès double tour, unless she can somehow just get the band. (I told her the lugs won't match with her Space Black case; she says that's not a big deal. I say it's grounds for divorce.)

I like the look of the Hermès, but if all she wants is the band, she could probably find one just like it on Etsy that would be just as good of quality for a lot less and she can get the lugs to match her watch.

EDIT: They have the Double Tour style band on Etsy, which is also called Double Tour and it can be customized for stitching and color for $125.00.

 

[Mac 128]

Regardless of how many times you say it, there's a reason why Apple's chosen (so far) to only allow custom images with a standard, complication-less, digital face.

Back to the thread... wife's definitely getting the Hermès double tour, unless she can somehow just get the band. (I told her the lugs won't match with her Space Black case; she says that's not a big deal. I say it's grounds for divorce.)

Yes of course there's a reason, I'm just speculating out loud about it. Others think the reason is that Apple intends to restrict and limit watch face development for the purposes of co-branded editions like the Hermes. I'm just looking at that decision from all sides.

As for your wife's dilemma, the lack of optional bands for the custom colors is astounding. There is only one matching band for the Space Black Link edition -- the black link band. The fact that Apple even sells the band by itself is perplexing considering it doesn't match any other watch. I'm stunned that there is not one other band offered for the Space Black Watch, if only the Classic Buckle attached to a black lug. Which brings me to my point, if there was a black lug, using a third party band replacement kit, she could easily replace the stock band with the Hermes.

The problem also exists for the Space Gray Sport, and now the problem has gotten even worse with Apple's offerings of gold and rose gold Sport watches, which don't have any other options for even Sport bands unless the customer wants a silver pin. And of course there are no other options for the Sports that will match the finish.

I assume the Edition owners must have their own private way to order additional bands, or they too are stuck with no matching options (unless they buy multiple Editions).

 

[BigGuy219]

Anyone who is 'worried' about the color of the pin on the sport bands matching the color of the Apple Watch case is the perfect candidate for an Apple Watch Hermès.

Always remember, gents. Match your watch band to your belt and shows. Match your watch case to your belt buckle and ring (if applicable).

 

[JayLenochiniMac]

There is only one matching band for the Space Black Link edition -- the black link band. The fact that Apple even sells the band by itself is perplexing considering it doesn't match any other watch. I'm stunned that there is not one other band offered for the Space Black Watch, if only the Classic Buckle attached to a black lug.

That's no longer true as they now offer the Space Black with black sport band. That's why Apple is now selling the Space Black link bracelet separately. Someone who orders the Space Black with black sport band may want to get the link bracelet at a later date.

I assume the Edition owners must have their own private way to order additional bands, or they too are stuck with no matching options (unless they buy multiple Editions).

Nope, they can't purchase additional Edition bands either. It doesn't make sense to do so anyway because the Edition models have color-coded crowns that match the bands.

 

[douglasf13]

Anyone who is 'worried' about the color of the pin on the sport bands matching the color of the Apple Watch case is the perfect candidate for an Apple Watch Hermès.

Always remember, gents. Match your watch band to your belt and shows. Match your watch case to your belt buckle and ring (if applicable).

There's actually quite a debate on both watch and fashion blogs about whether one needs to match a watch band to the belt/shoes, although I do generally do that. Same with ring and watch metal.

 

[BigGuy219]

There's actually quite a debate on both watch and fashion blogs about whether one needs to match a watch band to the belt/shoes, although I do generally do that. Same with ring and watch metal.

One does.

 

[Bagaholic]

There's actually quite a debate on both watch and fashion blogs about whether one needs to match a watch band to the belt/shoes, although I do generally do that. Same with ring and watch metal.

Personally I think matchy-matchy is tacky. That's just me though.

Anyway, to stay on topic: Me me I'm getting the Hermès Apple Watch. Hopefully the 38mm won't look ridiculous on me because I want the Double Tour in either Étain or Capucine. Bleu Jean is okay but definitely not Fauve. Natural barenia calfskin in fauve will go through a patina process and get darken as it absorbs moisture from use. Some might like the darker leather look but not for me. I have a bracelet in fauve barenia and did not like how dark it's gotten

 

[Enygmatic]

That's no longer true as they now offer the Space Black with black sport band. That's why Apple is now selling the Space Black link bracelet separately. Someone who orders the Space Black with black sport band may want to get the link bracelet at a later date.

The SB link bracelet and Sport band with black pin are the only thoroughly-matching bands that we have the option of getting... the other Sport bands all have SS pins; all of the SS bands have SS lugs, or - in the case of the Leather Loop - a SS ring.

I love the look of mine, and it's extremely versatile with outfits... but it's easily the least customizable version (outside of the Editions).

 

[Enygmatic]

One does.

LMAO... yes, one really should try.

 

[Mac 128]

That's no longer true as they now offer the Space Black with black sport band. That's why Apple is now selling the Space Black link bracelet separately. Someone who orders the Space Black with black sport band may want to get the link bracelet at a later date.

Yes but that's not really my point. You can't add a leather band with matching lugs if you wanted to, or any other color sport band. The observation is more about whether Apple intends to explode the SKUs with every possible variation, or if certain watches will simply be limited to what they shipped with, like the current crop of gold Sports, likely sold to the people who will be most likely to buy multiple coordinating bands, and prefer that everything is perfectly matched.

Nope, they can't purchase additional Edition bands either. It doesn't make sense to do so anyway because the Edition models have color-coded crowns that match the bands.

Not all the crowns match the bands, only certain models. Most of them have the black dot. And I don't really see the crown detail dictating band color for the fashionable wealthy any more than I see an unmatched stainless steel lug on a leather band stopping a Sport owner from buying one, nor avoiding a (PRODUCT) RED band because it doesn't have a gold pin to match either the gold Sport or Edition.

I'd love to know Apple's thinking behind the Edition. Perhaps it mirrors the Hermes model -- people who can afford and buy such things are used to owning several luxury watches without the option to customize them beyond how they were purchased. If they want a different band, they buy a different watch. In which case Apple really needs to allow multiple watches to pair with an iPhone as soon as possible.

 

[JayLenochiniMac]

Not all the crowns match the bands, only certain models. Most of them have the black dot. And I don't really see the crown detail dictating band color for the fashionable wealthy any more than I see an unmatched stainless steel lug on a leather band stopping a Sport owner from buying one, nor avoiding a (PRODUCT) RED band because it doesn't have a gold pin to match either the gold Sport or Edition.

I'd love to know Apple's thinking behind the Edition. Perhaps it mirrors the Hermes model -- people who can afford and buy such things are used to owning several luxury watches without the option to customize them beyond how they were purchased. If they want a different band, they buy a different watch. In which case Apple really needs to allow multiple watches to pair with an iPhone as soon as possible.

Only one Edition model has non-matching crown (the 38mm rose gold with rose gray modern buckle, which has black-capped crown). The rest of them have color-coded crowns. Your statement that "most of them have the black dot" is inaccurate. Three models (the yellow gold models with black sport band or black classic buckle and the rose gold with rose gray modern buckle) have the black dot, whereas the rose gold with white sport band has white crown, the yellow gold with bright red modern buckle has red crown, and the rose gold with midnight blue classic buckle has midnight blue crown.

Edition owners can easily pick up another Edition model during a lazy $40,000 spending spree on a weekday. I'm sure Apple will come up with the ability to pair more than one watch to a single iPhone.

 

[Mac 128]

Only one Edition model has non-matching crown (the 38mm rose gold with rose gray modern buckle, which has black-capped crown). The rest of them have color-coded crowns. Your statement that "most of them have the black dot" is inaccurate. Only two models (the yellow gold with black sport band and the rose gold with rose gray modern buckle) have the black dot, whereas the rose gold with white sport band has white crown, the yellow gold with bright red modern buckle has red crown, and the rose gold with midnight blue classic buckle has midnight blue crown.

Like most men, I am slightly colorblind with respect to black and navy blues, to me, both in person and on the website, the Midnight Blue model appears to have a black crown, just like the companion Rose gray modern buckle. Also, the black classic buckle has a black crown. So of the 6 unique models, three of them definitely have a black crown, and two of them definitely have a white and red crown. I can only take your word that my observations have been wrong and the Midnight Blue band also has a midnight blue crown. That was the basis of my statement that "most" were black. If you're right, then half are black, and half are other colors. Not sure this was worth the debate, but I suppose that's one less thing to disagree about (though I will be taking another look at the Midnight Blue Edition the next time I'm at the Apple Store to be sure ;-)

 

[douglasf13]

Personally I think matchy-matchy is tacky. That's just me though.

Anyway, to stay on topic: Me me I'm getting the Hermès Apple Watch. Hopefully the 38mm won't look ridiculous on me because I want the Double Tour in either Étain or Capucine. Bleu Jean is okay but definitely not Fauve. Natural barenia calfskin in fauve will go through a patina process and get darken as it absorbs moisture from use. Some might like the darker leather look but not for me. I have a bracelet in fauve barenia and did not like how dark it's gotten

I don't know if you're a man or woman, but the 38mm will be fine, either way. I've yet to see a wrist under 7.5"-8" that doesn't look better with the 38mm. The 42mm reads as much more of a wrist computer, and the 38mm reads more closely in size to my Rolex watches. I'm 6'1" and still went 38mm.

 

[JayLenochiniMac]

Like most men, I am slightly colorblind with respect to black and navy blues, to me, both in person and on the website, the Midnight Blue model appears to have a black crown, just like the companion Rose gray modern buckle. Also, the black classic buckle has a black crown. So of the 6 unique models, three of them definitely have a black crown, and two of them definitely have a white and red crown. I can only take your word that my observations have been wrong and the Midnight Blue band also has a midnight blue crown. That was the basis of my statement that "most" were black. If you're right, then half are black, and half are other colors. Not sure this was worth the debate, but I suppose that's one less thing to disagree about (though I will be taking another look at the Midnight Blue Edition the next time I'm at the Apple Store to be sure ;-)

No worries. Perhaps the following images will help you out.

 

[liam.berlin]

1. Will the bands be available separately?
2. If I only buy a band will be allowed to have Hermès on my watch face?
3. When do these go on sale?
4. Do you think they will sell out almost instantly?

 

[Mac 128]

No worries. Perhaps the following images will help you out.

Nope still looks black to me. Like I said, statistically most men cannot detect the differences between those colors, especially not in a photograph -- all of which I've seen. But thank you for posting them as if the first thing I didn't do was double check the Apple website.

But I did find a website that describes the differences between the watches and highlighted the custom crowns, confirming the Midnight Blue crown. Why Apple doesn't state this on their own website is beyond me.

Despite parsing this non-issue to death, and since you're such a stickler for accuracy, let me rephrase my original comment -- most of the crowns of the Edition will easily coordinate with most of the other band options (hardware not withstanding), depending on taste.

 

[SHNXX]

Nope still looks black to me. Like I said, statistically most men cannot detect the differences between those colors, especially not in a photograph -- all of which I've seen. But thank you for posting them as if the first thing I didn't do was double check the Apple website.

But I did find a website that describes the differences between the watches and highlighted the custom crowns, confirming the Midnight Blue crown. Why Apple doesn't state this on their own website is beyond me.

Despite parsing this non-issue to death, and since you're such a stickler for accuracy, let me rephrase my original comment -- most of the crowns of the Edition will easily coordinate with most of the other band options (hardware not withstanding), depending on taste.

Most men?
Color blindness affects less than 10% of males.

 

[Enygmatic]

1. Will the bands be available separately?
2. If I only buy a band will be allowed to have Hermès on my watch face?
3. When do these go on sale?
4. Do you think they will sell out almost instantly?

1. No, at least not initially
2. No
3. I believe the participating shops will have them the first week of October
4. Depends on the location, and how many they made for this run. There seems to be (understandably) a great deal of interest at the Paris locations.

 

[liam.berlin]

Thanks for the reply! How do you know so much, where can I read more?

4. Depends on the location, and how many they made for this run. There seems to be (understandably) a great deal of interest at the Paris locations.

I am in Berlin. Three different stores will stock: Hermès, Apple and third one I do not know a lot about. I live 300m from Hermès and Apple Store!

 

[Enygmatic]

Thanks for the reply! How do you know so much, where can I read more?



I am in Berlin. Three different stores will stock: Hermès, Apple and third one I do not know a lot about. I live 300m from Hermès and Apple Store!

I actually live/work in Germany as well; calling and speaking to reps at various stores in Paris that will be carrying them (wife and I will be there for a bit next month, and she wants one). There's a waiting list at a couple of shops/boutiques - not sure if that was arbitrary or out of necessity.

 

[Mac 128]

Most men?
Color blindness affects less than 10% of males.

I didn't say most men are colorblind.

To be more specific, I've been told every time this comes up when I am buying clothing, that in the sales-persons experience most men have trouble distinguishing between navy and black. Whether this is actual color blindness, or something else, I don't know. And the many fashion industry people I have spoken to about it may be wildly overestating their experience, or just trying to make me feel better. Or most men who shop haute couture are colorblind.

Either way, you are correct.

 

[JayLenochiniMac]

I didn't say most men are colorblind.

Perhaps you need to be more careful with your words:

Like most men, I am slightly colorblind with respect to black and navy blues, to me, both in person and on the website, the Midnight Blue model appears to have a black crown, just like the companion Rose gray modern buckle.

Nope still looks black to me. Like I said, statistically most men cannot detect the differences between those colors, especially not in a photograph -- all of which I've seen. But thank you for posting them as if the first thing I didn't do was double check the Apple website.

 

[BigGuy219]

I don't know if you're a man or woman, but the 38mm will be fine, either way. I've yet to see a wrist under 7.5"-8" that doesn't look better with the 38mm. The 42mm reads as much more of a wrist computer, and the 38mm reads more closely in size to my Rolex watches. I'm 6'1" and still went 38mm.

Personally I'd have much preferred something in the 48mm range!

 

[matrix07]

Back to the thread... wife's definitely getting the Hermès double tour, unless she can somehow just get the band. (I told her the lugs won't match with her Space Black case; she says that's not a big deal. I say it's grounds for divorce.)

Turquoise?