Or a fingerprint reader on your Macbook.Isn't this retarded game so much fun?
So if I seriously wanted to break into your Lenovo computer with fingerprint reader, what would I do?
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Why do many Mac User believe that Macs have better hardware then all PCs
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So if I seriously wanted to break into your Lenovo computer with fingerprint reader, what would I do?
Thats because their the most common. I mean if you put an expensive car and a cheap car out where someone can steal it is more likely that the more expensive car will be stolen.
In the business world macs are great...but if you want to go and get down and dirty you need a pc. Why? because there are not enough ports on a Macbook pro. Maybe you don't need a e-sata port but if the guy you are trying to help has an e-sata hard drive then what? Or WImax (gotta be useful for business people). Sure you can have an adapter but its just not the same. Two USB ports are not enough for many people.
Much of the business world uses windows, its not suprising that hackers would go after the biggest juiciest targets.
E-sata not being popular with the consumer is wrong, even if you don't use esata, pretty much all esata ports are esata/USB 2.0 ports. If i don't use the esata port as an esata port, I can always use it as a USB port (which I am doing right now with my mouse). I get six of one and 1/2 dozen of the other.
In the business world macs are great...but if you want to go and get down and dirty you need a pc. Why? because there are not enough ports on a Macbook pro. Maybe you don't need a e-sata port but if the guy you are trying to help has an e-sata hard drive then what? Or WImax (gotta be useful for business people). Sure you can have an adapter but its just not the same. Two USB ports are not enough for many people.
Much of the business world uses windows, its not suprising that hackers would go after the biggest juiciest targets.
E-sata not being popular with the consumer is wrong, even if you don't use esata, pretty much all esata ports are esata/USB 2.0 ports. If i don't use the esata port as an esata port, I can always use it as a USB port (which I am doing right now with my mouse). I get six of one and 1/2 dozen of the other.
Because with a PC you will be opening the case and going inside of it to fix something or another and you'll get dirty from all that dust inside!
Personally I prefer not to get " down and dirty " with a computer, I just need them to run reliably without much need for repairs, upgrades, and updates.
So far Apple has given me what I need, in the last 8 years or more of owning Macs, only one had to go in for service and it was down for 18 hours.
I remember when my Omnibook failed, HP had it for 5 days.
For security, you use RSA tokens, or you use smartcards. Cheap laptop fingerprint readers don't give you any security. BTW. if your company's security depends on whether someone can break into an employee's laptop, then you got some very, very serious problems.
There was some statistic out that of laptops sold for >$1000, Apple has a share of 91% of the market. Wonder if a MacBook (not Pro) selling for $999 + tax counts as < $1000 or >$1000.
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E-Sata is only popular in your example because it is bundled with USB2.
Why do you think external drive manufacturers put USB 2 on their drives in combination with e-Sata?
Because they know USB 2 is more widely used and thus more widely popular.
Because with a PC you will be opening the case and going inside of it to fix something or another and you'll get dirty from all that dust inside!
Personally I prefer not to get " down and dirty " with a computer, I just need them to run reliably without much need for repairs, upgrades, and updates.
So far Apple has given me what I need, in the last 8 years or more of owning Macs, only one had to go in for service and it was down for 18 hours.
I remember when my Omnibook failed, HP had it for 5 days.
I meant if you had to do really intensive tasks that most computers can not do. i.e. beyond the average user.
Exactly harcosparky! because it is almost always bundled with USB. Hp does that, dell does that, sony does that, etc. Most esata ports also double as USB ports. E-sata is a newer technology and so USB support is also included for older computers. There is no drawback to receiving a esata/usb port instead of just a USB port! Computer companies get to say "its got esata" for only minimal cost.
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Really? I've never seen that. Do you have a specific example? USB and ESATA connectors are very different, even at the mechanical level.
Oops.. nevermind. I see how this works. It's a regular USB connector next to a regular ESATA connector in the same port opening. I guess it just saves space.
So if I seriously wanted to break into your Lenovo computer with fingerprint reader, what would I do?
It would be impossible since I don't own one.
Actually statistic show otherwise. Hondas and Toyotas are the most stolen cars, at least in the US.
I said earlier that not one person in the world needs or uses a fingerprint reader. I'm sure that Lenovo, Toshiba, Sony, HP etc would feel quite foolish if they read this thread. Obviously they are unnecessary or else Apple would include them on the Macs.
In my opinion the high end 15inch 2011 model i have is pretty decent. In Australia from what i see in electronics catalogues, the other PC 15 inch laptops has inferior specs and graphic cards(and value) when compared to the new MBP refreshes.
But then again i guess the PC manufacturers haven't come up with their own 2011 models yet. So it might well be that what i was looking at in the catalogue are 'late 2010 PC laptops'.
But then again i guess the PC manufacturers haven't come up with their own 2011 models yet. So it might well be that what i was looking at in the catalogue are 'late 2010 PC laptops'.
Exactly. Because Sandy Bridge chipsets had that hardware design error, their release was postponed. Apple didn't have to postpone their release because they are not using USB3 or something like that.
Take a look at this list to see what early SB PC laptops have for specs in Germany.
http://skinflint.co.uk/de/?pg=1&cat=nb15w&xf=29_Core+i3-2~29_Core+i5-2~29_Core+i7-2
You know, I'm really not sure what point you are trying to make here.
Business Windows laptops and MBP's are different audiences. Obviously their features will be different, because their target audiences are different.
And for the record, I am SO thankful my MBP does not have a fingerprint reader on it. Or the numerous other ports and features many non-mac laptops have which I might use once a year if at all. I like the sleek minimalistic design and do not want clutterings of ports and drives I don't use more than very rarely at best.
Completely different design philosophies result in different product configurations. Duh? So again, I'm not sure what your point is.
USB3 is not part of Intel's chipset feature set for Sandy Bridge. Apple simply got non-defective parts first.
I fail to see your point, sure hondas and toyotas are stolen more often. What I am saying is that an expensive car is more of a target. You won't find statistics because BMW owners don't risk their cars as much as toyota owners do. What I am trying to say is that given the chance to steal an expensive BMW or a cheap toyota, everything being the same (chances of being caught), the thief is more likely to steal the BMW.
verta: read up on the issue, the problem was with sata connectors in the chipset not USB 3.0. (What's wrong with USB 3.0 anyway, there don't seem to be any drawbacks to it).
Macbook pro was refreshed on feb 24, other companies had sandy bridge before that. The fixed chipsets were shipped feb 14. Hp had the flawed chipsets in january which were flawed but still earlier that apple. They released them late, their release date was not postponed.
macs are good but cannot simply compare to a business windows pcs in ports and the functionality that they bring. 2 USB ports is not going to be enough for some business people (or only one external moniter). Macs seem to have good quality but against the masses of windows pcs they can't compete in some areas. (some ares they may flatten the competition though).
verta: read up on the issue, the problem was with sata connectors in the chipset not USB 3.0. (What's wrong with USB 3.0 anyway, there don't seem to be any drawbacks to it).
Macbook pro was refreshed on feb 24, other companies had sandy bridge before that. The fixed chipsets were shipped feb 14. Hp had the flawed chipsets in january which were flawed but still earlier that apple. They released them late, their release date was not postponed.
macs are good but cannot simply compare to a business windows pcs in ports and the functionality that they bring. 2 USB ports is not going to be enough for some business people (or only one external moniter). Macs seem to have good quality but against the masses of windows pcs they can't compete in some areas. (some ares they may flatten the competition though).
Business people? What's the minimum number of ports required for a business person? 3? 8 + a 4 port hub?
Are doctors offices considered businesses?
Why the hell is M$ office on the mac?
And since when did the majority require more than 1 external display? Are we running bloomberg terminals on OS X now? Is that what makes them less capable?
Winboxes are good because they are cheap and easy to deploy if you have the right setup.
All i'm saying is that there are things possible on a pc that are not possible on a mac. many would find 2 USB ports not enough (I do). SOME do require more than one external display.
A mac has a limited number of ports that some may find confining, its true, get over it. There are limitations to them, just as there as limitations to windows pcs, only one external moniter is one. True, not used very often by the majority but if you NEED two external moniters then...
Other than the build and quality (unibody, trackpad,etc), PC hardware is better, if not only from the sheer variety out there. (I said hardware not software because this thread is about hardware).
The point is if you are looking for a 15 inch computer with three native USB ports (any kinds, no hubs) then a mac is not in the running. It does not have three. End of story.
A mac has a limited number of ports that some may find confining, its true, get over it. There are limitations to them, just as there as limitations to windows pcs, only one external moniter is one. True, not used very often by the majority but if you NEED two external moniters then...
Other than the build and quality (unibody, trackpad,etc), PC hardware is better, if not only from the sheer variety out there. (I said hardware not software because this thread is about hardware).
The point is if you are looking for a 15 inch computer with three native USB ports (any kinds, no hubs) then a mac is not in the running. It does not have three. End of story.
I didnt think it would either, until I stumbled across someone playing it on Youtube, the FPS can drop to around 40 during heavy action scenes, but its still very playable.
Weirdly Crysis 2 gets a much worse frame-rate, around 30-35, considering its supposed to be more optimized for consoles, and less demanding.
Crysis's system requirements arent too much though, 2.0Ghz Core 2 Duo, 2GB of RAM, and a 512MB Video card.
I'm not trying to make any point. About 10 pages ago someone posted a feature that Windows pc's don't have so I posted that Macs don't have a finger print reader and you guys took it from there. It was a simple statement but a few people had to defend it to the nth degree. It's not a big deal at all, it was made into one.
Your memory really isn't that great, but we all know that from your pety arguements that don't make sense.
You posted that pc's have all these extra features, and I stated that they are mostly UNNEEDED features such as finger print readers. That is when you went off on some tangent about how our own government relies on finger print readers for security. A comment that anyone with half a brain would see right through.
It has been stated numerous times. Apple includes what the majority of us need and nothing else. Genuis. The same goes with the iPhone.
It's your memory that isn't that great.
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/12271599/
His statement holds up.
Who is to say what is and what isn't a necessary feature? What you may value as an absolute requirement, others may see has bloat. One fella in here used the example of 3 USB ports vs 2. If someone is looking for that extra on-board port and considers it a necessity, he isn't going to get a Macbook Pro. Likewise if someone absolutely wants a disc drive in the laptop, they aren't looking at a Macbook Air. I could argue that disc drives in general are an unneeded feature, but many others still use them daily. Thunderbolt is worthless to a huge amount of people. Nothing uses it yet and most of your endusers will never need anything that fast. As of now, it's not necessary but Apple chose to include it because SOME may find it advantageous.
In the end, the reason why there are multiple companies and multiple kinds of machines is because not everyone needs the same machine. To make a general statement claiming that Apple includes nothing but the most absolute necessities is quite disingenuous.
It's been said before by YOU. I don't see anyone else in the thread pushing the same thing, and for good reason. Then the continued insults, as if that makes your point any more legit. It's certainly possible to have a discussion without turning this into a sophomoric flame war. It's why your previous id 300D was banned, and it's why this one will most likely find the same fate.
Good point. But if Apple hardware is better than PC hardware (which is what this is all about, right??) why doesn't Apple include it. It's not like they have to design anything special for it, the USB ports are already there!
That is just one example of where Apple hardware is inferior to other PC hardware.
I quite agree. And better yet, if you try to play an MMO, you're down from 2 USB ports to 1, because a mac doesn't even have a proper mic in port. Add a USB mouse, and there are 0 spare USB ports.
Thank you for finally agreeing. That is exactly why so many people find Apple hardware inferior. It's just not there!
: Great for most people; horrible for the restSince when majority of people needed Firewire instead of that 3rd USB port? Or mini-DP instead of DVI or HDMI?
Long time Vaio user here. I would say I am just shy of being a power user. I just purchased a new Macbook Pro (2011) and I can say without a doubt that I prefer the Mac over the PC.
My sony (which was just as expensive as the mac) was damaged because the adapter cord got ripped out of the computer a couple of times by accident. I love the magnetic connection of the Mac adapter.
Trackpad is much, much more responsive. I really like all the options for using the trackpad too - this is very limited on the best PC.
Best of all - NO CRAPWARE!!!!!!
I absolutely love the OS so much more than Windows. Smart folders are awesome, Time Machine is a breeze compared to Windows back-up. iPhoto is amazing! And I can't wait to try Garageband.
I had a BlackBerry for work and a personal iphone. I couldn't stand the Blackberry - it took me 20 minutes to write a single sentence on the tiny keypad. I returned the BlackBerry and set up my iPhone using Microsoft Exchange. That experience made me realize just how streamlined and simple iOS and Mac OS X are - much better user experience.
Of course, these are my opinions based upon my experiences.
My sony (which was just as expensive as the mac) was damaged because the adapter cord got ripped out of the computer a couple of times by accident. I love the magnetic connection of the Mac adapter.
Trackpad is much, much more responsive. I really like all the options for using the trackpad too - this is very limited on the best PC.
Best of all - NO CRAPWARE!!!!!!
I absolutely love the OS so much more than Windows. Smart folders are awesome, Time Machine is a breeze compared to Windows back-up. iPhoto is amazing! And I can't wait to try Garageband.
I had a BlackBerry for work and a personal iphone. I couldn't stand the Blackberry - it took me 20 minutes to write a single sentence on the tiny keypad. I returned the BlackBerry and set up my iPhone using Microsoft Exchange. That experience made me realize just how streamlined and simple iOS and Mac OS X are - much better user experience.
Of course, these are my opinions based upon my experiences.
Of course, but today, everyone uses adapters ..
usb hubs make it possible to get 4 ports .. display adapters on the mac make it more possible to connect VGA or HDMI.
By the means you stating,"pc can handle more displays" I assume your referring to the iMac.. You can't do this on a Mac Pro ?
Me thinks you can .
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