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Why I don't like iMessage
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Really? You just repeated what several people here told you and your question wasn't answered?
You're hopeless.
This depends! It has been stated over and over! The other person might be on T-Mobile or AT&T which allows messages over a call. You are on Verizon! They don't have this capacity if the message has any type of data in it.
This is the way it works. Now, when you send the message it will very likely go over SMS if data is not able to be sent. It's not rocket science to figure it out. You pretty much answered your own question.
So I just tested this and your fears are true. While on a phone call, iMessages are held until 3G service is restored.
This will likely be a mute point if the rumors of LTE in iPhone 5 or 6 are true. I'm betting on iPhone 6, and even that's only ~1 year away.
I can deal with this possible nuisance for a year.
Edit: Let me be clearer by stating that my iPhone is on Verizon, hers is AT&T. Both iOS 5.0b1 obviously.
This will likely be a mute point if the rumors of LTE in iPhone 5 or 6 are true. I'm betting on iPhone 6, and even that's only ~1 year away.
I can deal with this possible nuisance for a year.
Edit: Let me be clearer by stating that my iPhone is on Verizon, hers is AT&T. Both iOS 5.0b1 obviously.
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But currently I am on Verizon and I get texts while I'm on the phone, so if someone sends me a text with 5.0 from an iPhone just a text a regular ****ing text from an iPhone I won't get it cause the iPhones wanted to make it an imessage and I think that's crap
And you did this phone number to phone number? (thank you in advance for trying this and not being a smart ass like the rest)
I explicitly stated, that any text with data in it (like pictures) will not go through.
In the case of iMessage, what I think will happen with the Verizon iPhone is if there is no data, it will go as text (SMS) message to its destination granted the destination is a phone, but not as an iMessage. Once the call ends the whole thing will go through as an iMessage. Savy?
Really? Have I been a smart arse? If so, let me go back and edit the stuff out that offend you! On a serious note, you have insulted everyone trying to help you here....
And I am saying that is crap, because I can get a mms while on the phone? Why wouldn't it send that thru? Why would it hold it that message? Savvy!?
You mean phone number as opposed to Apple ID or something?
In any event, yes.
Edit: Oh I guess that makes sense to ask. I forgot iPod Touch's do not have phone numbers. So what do you use? Just Apple ID?
It's not crap, and you most certainly can not get picture or any other MMS in Verizon with a call active. So right there, you are blatantly telling a lie. Not even the most diehard Verizon fanboy would support that claim you just made.
Why wouldn't it send it through? I told you, iMessage is data, an SMS is not treated as such. Data will not work on a call, Wi-Fi exception.
Why would it hold the message? Because it can't go through yet.
Savy?
we have answered it multiple times
Ok iMessage is data. It goes over the 3G or WiFi connection.
SMS is a short message sent over the standby signal.
Your phone is always connected with the standby signal and text message piggy backs on that signal. This signal is still in play no matter if you are on a phone call or not. This is not effect by being on a phone call.
Now something that might blow your brain. If you are in a location with out all cell signal but have wifi you will will get iMessage but you will not relieve an SMS.
Verizon has not turned on the ablitly to do data/Voice over the 3G at the same time on their network and scraped the plans they did have for it when they choose to focus on LTE. Nothing that can be done about it.
That's what I have been asking, and no one will give a straight answer. If you use your phone number how does it know if your an iOS device?
Ok, everyone here has some major confusion going on. It doesn't matter how YOU as a person identify the devices. Sure, Apple shows it as a phone # in an iPhone and as an e-mail in an iPad or Touch. None of this matters. The resulting data connections are made via IP.
It has been stated that once a device has been identified as having iOS5 and therefore being iMessage capable, they are tagged in your address book as such. Doesn't matter if they are using a phone # or an e-mail address.
Unless some additional check is being performed every time you send a message to see if the target phone is able to accept a data connection, then you can expect every message after the initial check to go via iMessage. I seriously doubt a check would be performed every single time becuase it wouldn't even be reliable from one second to another. Just expect the message to be queued up on Apple's servers.
You may think it's crap, but it's a limitation of the technology. Get over it
It has been stated that once a device has been identified as having iOS5 and therefore being iMessage capable, they are tagged in your address book as such. Doesn't matter if they are using a phone # or an e-mail address.
Unless some additional check is being performed every time you send a message to see if the target phone is able to accept a data connection, then you can expect every message after the initial check to go via iMessage. I seriously doubt a check would be performed every single time becuase it wouldn't even be reliable from one second to another. Just expect the message to be queued up on Apple's servers.
You may think it's crap, but it's a limitation of the technology. Get over it
Dude, its been said over and over. The system knows. It is smart, because it registers itself with the server when you first set up your Apple ID.
Because once registered as an iMessage device, it will always attempt iMessage unless you specifically turn it off.
The MMS is routed through the carrier's own systems to reach the destined phone number.
iMessage uses Apple's servers to find your devices.
get over it? If the system doesnt check every time and defaults to imessage I think that is crap. It SHOULD check every time and if the data line is busy send it on the regular text connection.
Because you know that this is possible?
If it is and they did it, you'd probably complain that it's delayed by a few seconds longer than the usual txt.
You just said that it defaults to imessage, why should I go from being able to receive a text while on the phone to NOT being able to (just from other iOS devices) and that be seen as an "upgrade"?
So if I disable imessage and I send a text and the other person is on Verizon no wifi in range and on the phone but with imessage on will it show up as an imessage to them when they hang up or will it come thru as a text?
Looks like this has been answered a few times already but if you really need to get your text messages even while on a call, A) you need to be on WiFi or B) just disable iMessages
I believe you only have two option using iMessages - use it for sending and receiving -OR- neither.
if you disable iMessages, everything gets sent as a text message
I believe you only have two option using iMessages - use it for sending and receiving -OR- neither.
if you disable iMessages, everything gets sent as a text message
Thank you for a straight answer. I can't believe that no one else sees this as an issue
