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The iPhone 7, is the best thing to happen to planet earth, how can you not be happy, i want one right now iphone 7 will be one of the best collection of iphone that i have.
 
Good article in today's USA Today worth reading:

Apple's iPhone buzz fades as old models keep ticking

VENICE BEACH, Calif. — For half a decade, the launch of an Apple iPhone triggered the same kind of global hysteria once reserved for beloved music groups — customers camping for days in front of a store, often in Apple-themed costumes.

That may be changing. Low expectations for major changes to the next upgrade, and data showing consumers are holding onto their smartphones longer, suggest the Apple buzz is fading.

Apple has reached the point where “the phone is so good, I’m just not as stoked to get the new version,” says Blake Rose, who recently moved west from Kettering, Ohio. He owns the iPhone 6S, released last September.

Sales of Apple products dropped more than 20% at Target Corp. during the retailer's quarter ended July 30, said Target CEO Brian Cornell on Wednesday, contributing to a 7% drop in total sales.

Apple historically introduces new iPhones shortly after Labor Day, and if it follows past years' patterns, it would launch a phone with a major redesign and upgrade, say the iPhone 7.

Analysts expect three key new add-ons for the next iPhone:

—A dual-camera sensor that is designed to dramatically improve low-light images and make it easier to zoom in on photos.

—More internal storage, at 32 gigabytes, up from the standard 16 GB.

—Removal of the headphone jack port, which will require consumers to plug their phones and earbuds into the Lightning charging port. This will probably cause them to buy new headphones and buds.

Sales for the latest iPhone, the 6S and 6S Plus, didn't catch fire with consumers like previous models. Apple has reported slumping sales for the previous two quarters, a first for the company, which sent revenue down 15% for the June quarter. Iphone unit sales fell to 40.4 million in the recent quarter, down 15% year-over year.

Earlier this year Apple introduced the smaller iPhone SE, which introduced no new features but carried a lower price in a smaller body. While Apple says sales have been strong for the SE, they haven't been been enough to push iPhone unit numbers higher than previously.

The last major re-design for the iPhone was in 2014’s iPhone 6 and 6 Plus models, which remain Apple’s best-selling iPhone models. Consumers loved the larger screens and improved camera.

But 2015’s 6S and 6S Plus failed to impress in an equal way, with new features like 3D Touch shortcuts and the ability to add short seconds of video clips to your photos.

“They don’t really change anything except the camera and speed,” said Lala O’Malley, of Los Angeles. “It ended with the 4S."
 
New colors will help along better features will make it more attractive - especially a dull black color iPhone7 chassis. Not sure Tim likes that color but Steve did not care what Tim like, he just order it done!
 
As if you understand the dynamics of why to make any type of informed judgment of why. We know your subtext, but the real reason is they are losing customer, less customers less sales. Or are less customers just another excuse?
Well explain to me why ONLY AND ONLY Apple products account for 33.33% of Target's declines.I will wait
 
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Well explain to me why ONLY AND ONLY Apple products account for 33.33% of Target's declines.I will wait
There's not much to say about it. You know the answer; they angered a lot of people and people are not shopping there. no conspiracy theory. Apple is not doomed. Any way you can explain your version: "Apple is doomed". There it's been said.
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Good article in today's USA Today worth reading:

Apple's iPhone buzz fades as old models keep ticking

VENICE BEACH, Calif. — For half a decade, the launch of an Apple iPhone triggered the same kind of global hysteria once reserved for beloved music groups — customers camping for days in front of a store, often in Apple-themed costumes.

That may be changing. Low expectations for major changes to the next upgrade, and data showing consumers are holding onto their smartphones longer, suggest the Apple buzz is fading.

Apple has reached the point where “the phone is so good, I’m just not as stoked to get the new version,” says Blake Rose, who recently moved west from Kettering, Ohio. He owns the iPhone 6S, released last September.

Sales of Apple products dropped more than 20% at Target Corp. during the retailer's quarter ended July 30, said Target CEO Brian Cornell on Wednesday, contributing to a 7% drop in total sales.

Apple historically introduces new iPhones shortly after Labor Day, and if it follows past years' patterns, it would launch a phone with a major redesign and upgrade, say the iPhone 7.

Analysts expect three key new add-ons for the next iPhone:

—A dual-camera sensor that is designed to dramatically improve low-light images and make it easier to zoom in on photos.

—More internal storage, at 32 gigabytes, up from the standard 16 GB.

—Removal of the headphone jack port, which will require consumers to plug their phones and earbuds into the Lightning charging port. This will probably cause them to buy new headphones and buds.

Sales for the latest iPhone, the 6S and 6S Plus, didn't catch fire with consumers like previous models. Apple has reported slumping sales for the previous two quarters, a first for the company, which sent revenue down 15% for the June quarter. Iphone unit sales fell to 40.4 million in the recent quarter, down 15% year-over year.

Earlier this year Apple introduced the smaller iPhone SE, which introduced no new features but carried a lower price in a smaller body. While Apple says sales have been strong for the SE, they haven't been been enough to push iPhone unit numbers higher than previously.

The last major re-design for the iPhone was in 2014’s iPhone 6 and 6 Plus models, which remain Apple’s best-selling iPhone models. Consumers loved the larger screens and improved camera.

But 2015’s 6S and 6S Plus failed to impress in an equal way, with new features like 3D Touch shortcuts and the ability to add short seconds of video clips to your photos.

“They don’t really change anything except the camera and speed,” said Lala O’Malley, of Los Angeles. “It ended with the 4S."
Not worth it at all. It's an opinion of which there are a lot of opinions. The 6s, other than the 5s was the best update ever.

And target easily explainable other than the "Apple is doomed" sentiment. Kind of reminds me of Ken Lay saying enron is gonna be just fine.
 
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Not worth it at all. It's an opinion of which there are a lot of opinions. The 6s, other than the 5s was the best update ever.

And target easily explainable other than the "Apple is doomed" sentiment. Kind of reminds me of Ken Lay saying enron is gonna be just fine.

Do not be fooled by the 6S success as an indicator of the 7. Remember that the "number" releases occur on even years (2012, 2014, 2016) and the "S" releases occur on odd years (2013, 2015, 2017) and that during the old 2-year contract era there were equal amounts of potential buyers with expiring phones in each cycle.

Next month's iPhone 7 launch will be the first time in iPhone history where all the 2-year contracts will have ended, all carrier programs are now unsubsidized and at full price, the iPhone 7 looks underwhelming, and our iPhone 6's will be free of charge.

Add it up, iPhone 7 sales will be off 20% or more vs. prior releases. You can take that to the bank. Better yet, take your Apple stock and convert it to greenbacks and take those to the bank.

BJ
 
Do not be fooled by the 6S success as an indicator of the 7. Remember that the "number" releases occur on even years (2012, 2014, 2016) and the "S" releases occur on odd years (2013, 2015, 2017) and that during the old 2-year contract era there were equal amounts of potential buyers with expiring phones in each cycle.

Next month's iPhone 7 launch will be the first time in iPhone history where all the 2-year contracts will have ended, all carrier programs are now unsubsidized and at full price, the iPhone 7 looks underwhelming, and our iPhone 6's will be free of charge.

Add it up, iPhone 7 sales will be off 20% or more vs. prior releases. You can take that to the bank. Better yet, take your Apple stock and convert it to greenbacks and take those to the bank.

BJ
Okay, we'll see. You have a point about contracts, but I've been buying my phones off contact since the 5s. So I'm prepared.

We'll see if the entire mobile industry implodes in the next year. Believe you me the carriers want to push new products and the manufactures want to push new products.
 
All my iPhones have been on contract. The deals have been good enough here in Norway, and the length of contracts are just a year. Due to a strong dollar and less subsidization, the phone has almost doubled in price since the iPhone 6 launched in my country. Since the specifications on a phone is starting to challenge laptops and point'n'shoot cameras, I feel they can charge a premium, but with a higher price it's easier to sit on the fence. Since it's not a new design, just new colors, I feel the iPhone 6 is still alive. It may not have 3D touch, but since Huawei is the only brand who have brought that feature to Android, I don't think it is such a good idea. Great ideas get stolen, and right now Apple is catching up rather than leading the way. The build quality on iPhone 6 and up didn't feel as sturdy as the 5 and 5S, and certainly not as stellar as the iPhone 4.

I want aesthetics, but I don't want fashion. I want quality, not vanity. I want functionality, but I will never settle for unbridled diversity.

Then again, I may just buy one. I'm an adult and may simply acquire it as a toy to play with. I think for the first time since the neon revolutionary release, iOS 7, that the interface is starting to look whole again. For the first time in a long time, I may be more tempted by the software rather than the hardware.
 
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Okay, we'll see. You have a point about contracts, but I've been buying my phones off contact since the 5s. So I'm prepared.

We'll see if the entire mobile industry implodes in the next year. Believe you me the carriers want to push new products and the manufactures want to push new products.

The mobile industry will implode in terms of unit sales (decrease ~20%) but be flat in terms of profit from increased revenue on a per-phone basis due to price increases (elimination of subsidies).

All signs point to carriers and Apple realizing that the party is over and tightening the belts: Carriers charge customers 2x for the hardware. Apple penny-pinches by reducing costs (jacks and switches removed), reducing returns (making phones waterproof), and minimizing innovation (less R&D than ever).

BJ
 
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Because it's hard to ignore how fast Apple's competition is moving in comparison - every year they manage to put larger/better screens in similar form bodies but also with bigger batteries, expandable storage and so many other things that people actually want.

Apple move the antennas and make the icons larger in their messaging app and call it a new release. Actually, no, let me correct that - Apple sometimes likes to go backwards on stuff that matters most - smaller battery size from iPhone 6 to 6S?! Really? On a phone that never shined with great battery life they go and reduce the battery capacity? Sorry but that's straight up criminal.

It is truly pitiful anymore. Once they were pioneers, now can't even keep up.
 
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The mobile industry will implode in terms of unit sales (decrease ~20%) but be flat in terms of profit from increased revenue on a per-phone basis due to price increases (elimination of subsidies).

All signs point to carriers and Apple realizing that the party is over and tightening the belts: Carriers charge customers 2x for the hardware. Apple penny-pinches by reducing costs (jacks and switches removed), reducing returns (making phones waterproof), and minimizing innovation (less R&D than ever).

BJ
That's total conspiracy theory and good ol' Internet hyperbole the penny pinching. The ulterior motive not being customer focused but increasing the bottom line. And I do disagree about the comment on minimum innovation, as one person's innovation is another person's meh and one person's meh is another person's glorious innovation.

Having said that Apple shows more innovation on a centimeter of every phone than the competition who throws hardware, which is not innovation.

For example a note 7 is just an improved version of the Galaxy s7, nothing really new.
 
Do not be fooled by the 6S success as an indicator of the 7. Remember that the "number" releases occur on even years (2012, 2014, 2016) and the "S" releases occur on odd years (2013, 2015, 2017) and that during the old 2-year contract era there were equal amounts of potential buyers with expiring phones in each cycle.

Next month's iPhone 7 launch will be the first time in iPhone history where all the 2-year contracts will have ended, all carrier programs are now unsubsidized and at full price, the iPhone 7 looks underwhelming, and our iPhone 6's will be free of charge.

Add it up, iPhone 7 sales will be off 20% or more vs. prior releases. You can take that to the bank. Better yet, take your Apple stock and convert it to greenbacks and take those to the bank.

BJ

I have to disagree with you on No More 2- Year contracts Verizon still offers 2 year contracts for current customers and most people have moved to a newer plan where they get a discount every month if they use Verizon device payment.
 
That's total conspiracy theory and good ol' Internet hyperbole the penny pinching. The ulterior motive not being customer focused but increasing the bottom line. And I do disagree about the comment on minimum innovation, as one person's innovation is another person's meh and one person's meh is another person's glorious innovation.

Having said that Apple shows more innovation on a centimeter of every phone than the competition who throws hardware, which is not innovation.

For example a note 7 is just an improved version of the Galaxy s7, nothing really new.

First, I am committed to the iPhone ecosystem, I have no clue what Samsung or other Android makers are doing nor do I care. I judge each iPhone release against the prior iPhone gen, really simple stuff, it either blows me away or it doesn't.

Next, I'm in the industry and I know how consumer electronic companies think and Apple is no slouch. There comes a time when a business has matured and innovation slows and the writing is clear that unit sales are going to fall. And when that time comes the mission shifts from innovation to preservation, the product gets built to produce 20% more profit to offset a 20% drop in sales, the narrative becomes "sales dropped but profits are up", the stock price is protected.

BJ
 
First, I am committed to the iPhone ecosystem, I have no clue what Samsung or other Android makers are doing nor do I care. I judge each iPhone release against the prior iPhone gen, really simple stuff, it either blows me away or it doesn't.

Next, I'm in the industry and I know how consumer electronic companies think and Apple is no slouch. There comes a time when a business has matured and innovation slows and the writing is clear that unit sales are going to fall. And when that time comes the mission shifts from innovation to preservation, the product gets built to produce 20% more profit to offset a 20% drop in sales, the narrative becomes "sales dropped but profits are up", the stock price is protected.

BJ
I don't know what industry you are in but unless you are high on the food chain in Apple the veracity of your comments cannot be verified. You can't reverse engineer apples financials to fit your use case. You can try, but I would think its next to impossible.
 
Care to elaborate?
do i really need to? just look at the stats and what other smatphone mfg's are offering with fast charge, wireless charge, retena scanning, etc.... it's should pretty clear to see apple is no longer in the same league as other phones. usless you ask someone who is wearing apple glasses. (im not saying you are one of them) obviously you are smarter than that.
 
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Its hard to get excited about any Smart Phones not Just the iPhone. We are at a point where Smart Phones are so good that its hard to get excited for small improvements. Price does not have any effect since some carriers like verizon still offer 2 year contracts and most providers depending on your plan do offer some discount towards the payment of the phone.
 
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Always loved this picture haha, need to change 2016 to 2017 though. ;)

You love, because you're an Apple hater, everyone knows how one-sided and wrong that picture is

What about this? @Savor

f2nHeIQ.jpg


And this is for Android Marshmallow, that didn't even hit ⅓ of Android users!

Android Nougat has nothing new, and all it's features were copied from iOS (like split multitasking).

From the picture, you've left out that:

1. Google Wallet was a FAILURE, and Apple Pay took the market lead OVERNIGHT, not in a month, not in a year, OVERNIGHT. It was so brutal that Google gave up, and burned the project, and started an Apple Pay copy they call Android Pay.

2. iPhone 4 was the first smartphone to have an HiDPI display (>300dpi).
 
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You love, because you're an Apple hater, everyone knows how one-sided and wrong that picture is

Lmao Apple hater? I've spent thousands on iPhones and iPads combined and I will spend thousands more in the future. I'm just not a blind Apple loyalist.

Also Samsung phones have had split screen for years, I had it on my Note 3.
 
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Lmao Apple hater? I've spent thousands on iPhones and iPads combined and I will spend thousands more in the future. I'm just not a blind Apple loyalist.

Do you expect me to believe that?

I don't care even it were true, your words speak clearly.
 
Lmao Apple hater? I've spent thousands on iPhones and iPads combined and I will spend thousands more in the future. I'm just not a blind Apple loyalist.

Also Samsung phones have had split screen for years, I had it on my Note 3.
Didn't you know?If you are on Macrumors it is mandatory to praise Apple and giving constructive criticism means you are a a hater

I myself own more than 3000 bucks of Apple hardware and am accused frequently for pointing out Facts on this forum
 
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You love, because you're an Apple hater, everyone knows how one-sided and wrong that picture is

What about this? @Savor

f2nHeIQ.jpg


And this is for Android Marshmallow, that didn't even hit ⅓ of Android users!

Android Nougat has nothing new, and all it's features were copied from iOS (like split multitasking).

From the picture, you've left out that:

1. Google Wallet was a FAILURE, and Apple Pay took the market lead OVERNIGHT, not in a month, not in a year, OVERNIGHT. It was so brutal that Google gave up, and burned the project, and started an Apple Pay copy they call Android Pay.

2. iPhone 4 was the first smartphone to have an HiDPI display (>300dpi).
Android did not copy Splitscreen from iOS .If anything both Apple and Google copied it from Samsung who had this feature for years .My Galaxy Tab S2 on Android marshmallow has split screen despite not being supported by Android natively

iOS copied widget lock screen ,third party keyboards and proactive from Android.The swipe to the left of the screen on iOS is a complete ripoff o swipe to the left for Google Now launcher which launched on Android Kitkat in 2014

BTW Sony Xperia Z5 is the first phone to have a 4K screen now
 
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