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Why so excited for the iPhone X ? It's the same old thing running boring iOS
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But also, they need user feedback to decide what to incorporate, right? So if enough people say "make our devices more business and productivity friendly," they could make strides to maximize screen real estate?
I am sure they take it into consideration, but I think they look at the collective masses overall, opposed to a small subset of customers that want certain features. It's hard to please everyone, but I have been happy with the platform and haven't found a real compelling reason to switch as of now.
But invert colors has been around as an Accessibility option since iOS 5 or before. How long before Apple takes the next step?
I hope they actually do more with the iPhone X because I rather stay on iOS than deal with Samsung hiccups, but let's see.
Hmm, when I use my iPhone, I spend most of my time on the apps, not on the OS. If you are stuck with the boring OS, I guess you aren't using your iPhone much as an actual productivity tool.
Actually, I want the OS to be boring, so it doesn't detracts me from my productivity. The OS should be invisible to the background, allowing the apps to shine. Heck, I use Android and I can't tell what they have done for each new version other than messing around the app drawer and notification looks and settings screen.
Actually, I want the OS to be boring, so it doesn't detracts me from my productivity. The OS should be invisible to the background, allowing the apps to shine. Heck, I use Android and I can't tell what they have done for each new version other than messing around the app drawer and notification looks and settings screen.
Now you're onto the verge of making insinuations based off you what you deem "Stagnant" or what phone "gets you the better device. " My views don't align with yours, nor am I am discussing whats the better device. We were discussing the likes/dislikes for iOS. The price point is subjective Any way based on what the consumer can afford and or want from the iPhone. And maybe it's stagnant to you, but it's not to me. The price point justifies itself the experience of the iPhone and the hardware is superficial that eventually wears off. As long as I'm content with what iOS and the hardware delivers to me, the price point justifies itself for some.
So you're okay with the rising markups even though the lower cost alternatives to the iPhone X are just as good? The 7 and 7+ are running unadulterated iOS 11 that the 8 will have. Plus, it retains important features like Touch ID. The SE offers a headphone jack too, so it makes an AUX cable experience a tab more easier. Phones are getting too expensive for what they offer on the flagship side.
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The thing is that a lot of apps are first party and are needed to fully use a phone. For instance, the iOS dialer app doesn't offer predictive dialing (spelling Matt on your phone using #s). If I could completely replace the dialer app with another one, like the Google Dialer, I would do it in a heartbeat.
Again, I'm not interested in justifying price points, nor are we discussing alternatives here. This all started with what we prefer in terms of iOS and what it delivers to the user or lack of. Am I right? If Apple gives me (Keyword) the iOS experience I expect in terms of fluidity, simplicity and security, I'm completely content with that. But my views and appreciations don't have to align with everyone else's. Nor should they.
For example, I never had an issue with removal of the 3.5 mm Jack, the AirPods are what I use regularly anyways. So thats a negated issue for me. And if somebody wants different options throughout the iPhone lineup, then Apple provides those choices.
Better hope for deals, a reliable iPhone launch window, and getting years out of the phone because $999 USD is a ton for a device. First two are not for sure happening. Third might happen, but with the new OLED push next year, the iPhone X might just be a first guinea pig batch to springboard to the 2018 iPhones.
I haven't seen any reliable jailbreak in quite some time, maybe I am looking in the wrong places. All of the options currently out there look shady as heck. Regardless I have no desire to do it, only wanted to try it out to hack CarPlay.
The only Android devices I currently take seriously are the upcoming Pixel 2 phones. Tried a Pixel and it was the best Android experience I've ever had. Phone had a dead pixel so I returned it after 2 weeks. I am very unhappy with the limitations of CarPlay which is why I may go from my iPhone 7 to Pixel 2. Android Auto gives me Google Maps and (finally) Waze by default. The only way to do this with CarPlay is to jailbreak and hack CarPlay which is totally ridiculous and stupid on Apple's part. In the end CarPlay vs. Android Auto could be the deciding factor in my purchase.
Couldn't care less about iOS vs. Android. Used both, like both, no desire to tweak, jailbreak, or root. Don't care about OLED / AMOLED vs. LCD. The rumors I've read about Face ID, I am not a fan, but I'll wait before judging.
The only Android devices I currently take seriously are the upcoming Pixel 2 phones. Tried a Pixel and it was the best Android experience I've ever had. Phone had a dead pixel so I returned it after 2 weeks. I am very unhappy with the limitations of CarPlay which is why I may go from my iPhone 7 to Pixel 2. Android Auto gives me Google Maps and (finally) Waze by default. The only way to do this with CarPlay is to jailbreak and hack CarPlay which is totally ridiculous and stupid on Apple's part. In the end CarPlay vs. Android Auto could be the deciding factor in my purchase.
Couldn't care less about iOS vs. Android. Used both, like both, no desire to tweak, jailbreak, or root. Don't care about OLED / AMOLED vs. LCD. The rumors I've read about Face ID, I am not a fan, but I'll wait before judging.
If it was a real file system ... maybe. While it looks okay for general iPhone use, it falls far short for my Pro.
JMO YMMV
The OP's expectations are the problem here.
Apple has always been crystal-clear about their strategies for updating the phone each year. Reliability and security are high priorities. Easing users into new features so that they don't need to read a manual is another big priority. They don't just tack on new features (and then abandon them a year later) like most Android manufacturers.
The OP may have picked the wrong phone. He sounds like a perfect candidate for Android.
Apple has always been crystal-clear about their strategies for updating the phone each year. Reliability and security are high priorities. Easing users into new features so that they don't need to read a manual is another big priority. They don't just tack on new features (and then abandon them a year later) like most Android manufacturers.
The OP may have picked the wrong phone. He sounds like a perfect candidate for Android.
Exactly, I dont know why people dont understand this. Apple understand its users and they know the majority of people dont want or care about all these new features/gimmicks. And when they do change they ease into it so the user doesnt feel overwhelmed. The average user wants the OS they are familiar with and can understand with minor upgrades along they way. Would a few of the jailbreak tweaks come in handy if Apple implemented it? Sure. Do most people care? No. I have a jailbroken 6s and everytime I show someone what it can do the response is usually "oh thats cool" and thats it. Not "I have to have this" or "I cant live without this" Same with Android, you show the average iPhone user what a galaxy s8 can do and they will be amazed...for about 10 seconds then go right back to their iphones. They just dont care and Apple knows this. Ease of use and stability are their main focus. If you want a phone that has everything but the kitchen sink there are plenty of Android options out there for you, and having options is great. I use both platforms. But stop thinking Apple doesn't know what they are doing but excluding or limiting features.
You may be right but reading this thread I went back and looked at my use of iOS on the iPhone. Of all the stock apps Apple provides I only use:
Messages
Phone
*Camera
Clock
Contacts
*Safari
Watch
Health
I only use Mail for my work email (forced).
Everything else is a secondary non-Apple app. *Even some of these I use an alternative alongside them.
If not for the connectivity between my rMB, iPads, and iPhone, I would likely be on something else.
Disclosure: I tried Android for my work stuff. Out IT group needs a bit more. Not up to iOS functionality they built.
I am not out to bash the iPhone here, no. I think the iPhone X will be an amazing piece of new technology, just a great smartphone.
But...I just would have liked iOS 11 to have more revisions or a new UI with the introduction of an all new groundbreaking design in the X. But it seems I fall into a very small minority.
And then the price, starting at $1,000 !!! wow. That's a hell of a lot of money for a smartphone. And I agree Samsung charging what $900+ for the Note 8, that too is crazy.
I remember when flagship phones launched at the $650 - $700 price range for years, only until recently did they start going higher.
But...I just would have liked iOS 11 to have more revisions or a new UI with the introduction of an all new groundbreaking design in the X. But it seems I fall into a very small minority.
And then the price, starting at $1,000 !!! wow. That's a hell of a lot of money for a smartphone. And I agree Samsung charging what $900+ for the Note 8, that too is crazy.
I remember when flagship phones launched at the $650 - $700 price range for years, only until recently did they start going higher.
Every one uses their devices differently. You use it for apps to be productive.
I have access to multiple computers, either my own or my work computers, 24/7 and it's these computers I use to be productive not my phone.
I use my phone for calls, email, text and light browsing. Most of that on the go when I am between places. Consequently, I am not using apps for productivity (I have a computer for that) and the apps I AM using tend to be the default iOS apps. Hence I interact with iOS far more than I interact with apps running on iOS.
However, boring isn't the adjective I would use here. Insufficient or irritating would be my terms of use. Fortunately, jailbreaking helps me solve that problem.
I am totally confused the major hype for the new iPhone X, I just don't get it. It's nothing new at all to really be excited about. And I am super smartphone nerd, total gadget geek.
Because it's running the same old boring iOS, sure the iPhone 8 will be all new tech, catching up to the looks and bezel less display Android phones have had for a year already. But at the end of the day, the fancy new phone wears off quickly, and your left with the OS you use day in, and day out 24/7, and iOS 11 is just like lame boring, locked down iOS 10, which was just like old iOS 9, which was like lame iOS 8, and the Fischer Price toy iOS 7 which started it all.
Who gives two ****s about the new design of the iPhone X, when it's running the same iOS still from iOS 7 basically ? I'd be way more excited and pumped if the new phone was just the iPhone 8 Plus, but with a totally revamped major revision to iOS. That would be breaking news and truly jaw dropping. But right now, this X is basically a Galaxy S8 running iOS. Yawn
To be honest, I fail to see the big excitement for the iPhone X, What's the big deal here ? My point being the OS in it, is the same thing we've seen for years, nothing new here, just old iOS, nothing new. Sure the phone itself is better FINALLY, but that's it.
Thing is I LOVE the iPhone, a Jailbreaked 7 Plus is the best smartphone IMO right now. But only JB iPhone's do it for me, otherwise Nexus / Pixel all the way.
Which OS is exciting? Android? Blackberry? Please explain what makes an OS exciting.
That's because the iPhone 7 only has one jailbreak while iOS 10 itself only has a jailbreak for up to iOS 10.2.
There are and always will be fake (shady) jailbreaks out there because the people who do this know that many potential jailbreakers have no clue about what they are doing or what is possible or not. They prey on that.
That aside, any of the legit semi-untethered jailbreaks just aren't worth it in my opinion. There are just too many problems.
