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I think they are capable of designing a wow factor iPhone as much as any competitor is. What I think happened is that they expanded and shook up their business so much that they had to go into a bit of a holding pattern for this year.

I've been part of companies undergoing expansions and I've been a "corporate spouse" for twenty years supporting my husband through being part of transition teams overseeing acquired companies and more recently, leading a transition team as part of the acquired company. The amount of upheaval involved can affect the usual course of business. Each acquisition opens up new possibilities and can alter business plans.

In the past year we have read on this site how Apple has expanded and invested heavily in Asia. And is building a new campus in Cupertino. They are expanding into unfamiliar territory with the car and in entertainment. They are redoing stores. They have closed a local store for a remodeling. So even on a local basic customer interface level they are undergoing upheaval.

That is a lot for their top level executives and their middle level managers on down to oversee and coordinate and assimilate. But I think it's a good sign that they've made acquisitions that can be used to enhance the products we love. But it's going to take some time for it all come together. When it does it's got the potential to be great. I mean it's not as if the iPhones suck now. They're still what competitors emulate and compare themselves against.

I just hope they stop with the bean counting we perceive so much these days and make the end user experience the best they can so that that is what we perceive first and foremost. And not how much certain features or decisions must have contributed to Apple's huge margins.
 
i'm buying to get ride of my big 6s plus that i don't like for two smaller iphone 7 4.7 one for me and my dad plus two apple care and two nice cases from amazon and a temperglass screen guard with two extra lighting cable
 
There is absolutely nothing wrong with the OPs question. Don't think of it as a question to the world, think of it as a question to MR.

No doubt alot of smartphone enthusiasts will upgrade to the 7 this year, they will all have their reasons, but alot won't.

In 2014 when the 6 and 6 Plus were released, sales went through the roof, because of the larger screen. But that was 2 years ago. 2 years in the smartphone industry is an eternity. The only real thing of substance that has been added since is 3d touch and even then that's more a convenience rather than a feature add.

Since the release of the 6/6 Plus, Samsung has come out with the Galaxy 7 edge and the soon to be available Note 7. And the G7 sales are on fire. And even before the iphone 7 has been released, most tech bloggers are already calling the Note 7 the best smartphone of 2016. I mean think about that, all we have is strong rumours about the iphone 7 plus the ios 10 betas, the keynote hasn't even happened yet, and already the so called experts are saying the Note 7 is the best release of 2016. What does that say about Apple and what does that say about the iphone 7?

Yes Apple has 200 billion in the bank but it will need to make sure its 2017 phone makes up for the already underwhelming rumours and feedback it's yet to be released 2016 phone offers because the mainstream population of the world are smarter than what some on here give them credit for. I know heaps of smartphone users who switched to Samsung because of things like waterproofing etc. Samsung sales are up, iphone sales are down. This should not be cause for concern to Apple YET, but they better pull their finger out before it becomes the norm and not just an exception to the norm.

Me personally as a 6 Plus user, I will be waiting for the 2017 edition. If that will result in disappointment when the time comes, then so be it, at least I will avoid the disappointment of this year and save plenty of dollars in the process because I'm tipping the iphone 7 will be the most expensive phone of 2016.
 
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Why wait for either iPhone 7 or 8 when you can get a free 256gb micro-sd or Gear S2 by purchasing a Note7? AT&T is offering a free tablet too.

Any color of a Note7 looks better than any color of iPhone SE and 7 anyway. The best design from any iPhone generation have been surpassed by the HTC One M7 and Samsung Galaxy dual-edged smartphones. Their designs are classy. The iPhone from 2G to 7 including that overpraised, recycled SE design looks worse than the S7 edge. Even the iPhone color options are awful while each color for the S7 edge or Note7 can stand out.

The rumored iPhone 8 will be rumored to be all-glass, AMOLED, and edge to edge. Uh, we have phones like that right now. Whether iPhone 7 or 8, Apple is still years behind stuck in the past. The $500 of FREE STUFF is worth it alone to get Note7. It would be like if Apple decided to throw in an iPod touch, older iPad model, and iTunes gift card for free with every iPhone 7 preorder. But Apple will offer NONE of that.

New design, you will continue using your new iPhone the same OLD way anyway. Apple is stuck in the past and needs to get back to the future...

Change the way we stream movies and TV shows forever.
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I think they are capable of designing a wow factor iPhone as much as any competitor is. What I think happened is that they expanded and shook up their business so much that they had to go into a bit of a holding pattern for this year.

I've been part of companies undergoing expansions and I've been a "corporate spouse" for twenty years supporting my husband through being part of transition teams overseeing acquired companies and more recently, leading a transition team as part of the acquired company. The amount of upheaval involved can affect the usual course of business. Each acquisition opens up new possibilities and can alter business plans.

In the past year we have read on this site how Apple has expanded and invested heavily in Asia. And is building a new campus in Cupertino. They are expanding into unfamiliar territory with the car and in entertainment. They are redoing stores. They have closed a local store for a remodeling. So even on a local basic customer interface level they are undergoing upheaval.

That is a lot for their top level executives and their middle level managers on down to oversee and coordinate and assimilate. But I think it's a good sign that they've made acquisitions that can be used to enhance the products we love. But it's going to take some time for it all come together. When it does it's got the potential to be great. I mean it's not as if the iPhones suck now. They're still what competitors emulate and compare themselves against.

I just hope they stop with the bean counting we perceive so much these days and make the end user experience the best they can so that that is what we perceive first and foremost. And not how much certain features or decisions must have contributed to Apple's huge margins.
Apple is not about the profit margin first. They're about delivering products and services in a different way. In spite of a few posters opinions and click bait blogs, Apple has seemingly delivered what the people have been asking for. With MR overseeing apples board and management team(and not being shy about letting Apple know they can run the company better), it will never be a good time for company expansion, acquisitions, new product development. But this is all business as usual as far as Fortune 500 companies go.

Me, I'm waiting for the iPhone 7.
 
So to you the entirety of the iphone 7 is about the home button. LOL. So tell me prescient one, exactly how fast is the cpu, memory?, ram? features, new sensorts? I'll bet if you try to list them you'll leave about 50% off; because no-one knows.

Wait.So the entire interior of the iPhone 7 isn't leaked?We don't know the display assembly?We don't know how the processor looks ? We don't know about one set of speaker holes being empty?We don't know the iPhone pro exists?We don't know it has a dual camera system?We don't know that it's the only device with 3 gigs of ram?We don't know the dual camera is exclusive to the iPhone pro?We don't know the 16GB variant is finally being dropped due to low sales?

Breaking News.The newer iPhone has a faster processor and more RAM then the one before it .
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Why wait for either iPhone 7 or 8 when you can get a free 256gb micro-sd or Gear S2 by purchasing a Note7? AT&T is offering a free tablet too.

Any color of a Note7 looks better than any color of iPhone SE and 7 anyway. The best design from any iPhone generation have been surpassed by the HTC One M7 and Samsung Galaxy dual-edged smartphones. Their designs are classy. The iPhone from 2G to 7 including that overpraised, recycled SE design looks worse than the S7 edge. Even the iPhone color options are awful while each color for the S7 edge or Note7 can stand out.

The rumored iPhone 8 will be rumored to be all-glass, AMOLED, and edge to edge. Uh, we have phones like that right now. Whether iPhone 7 or 8, Apple is still years behind stuck in the past. The $500 of FREE STUFF is worth it alone to get Note7. It would be like if Apple decided to throw in an iPod touch, older iPad model, and iTunes gift card for free with every iPhone 7 preorder. But Apple will offer NONE of that.

New design, you will continue using your new iPhone the same OLD way anyway. Apple is stuck in the past and needs to get back to the future...

Change the way we stream movies and TV shows forever.
bttf1-615x346.png

It-is-hard-to-show-a-picture-of-what-it-looks-like-inside-a-VR-headset-but-this-artistic-rendering-provides-some-idea-of-the-Gear-VR-Oculus-UI-640x305.png
100% agree.Apart from some fans on Macrumors the whole world is now starting to see how Apple is falling behind.

This Forbes article says it all about how Apple is helping sell more Galaxy Note 7's more than ever

www.forbes.com/sites/brookecrothers/2016/08/13/with-galaxy-note-7-is-samsung-getting-too-far-ahead-of-apple/#562862b035bb
 
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And after all that Apple is still the most profitable company in the world and the total number of galaxy line up sell is only a fraction of the number of iPhone sold all over the world.

Says it all I guess.
 
And after all that Apple is still the most profitable company in the world and the total number of galaxy line up sell is only a fraction of the number of iPhone sold all over the world.

Says it all I guess.
And once upon a time Nokia and Blackberry were the market leaders.You know what they did?They laughed at the iPhone thinking they were too big to fail.And look where they are now.Nokia is canned and Blackberry is licking the scraps left behind by other manufacturers .All this happened over a span of just 5 years
 
And once upon a time Nokia and Blackberry were the market leaders.You know what they did?They laughed at the iPhone thinking they were too big to fail.And look where they are now.Nokia is canned and Blackberry is licking the scraps left behind by other manufacturers .All this happened over a span of just 5 years
Yes absolutely agree. Every company goes through rise and fall. That's just how it is. Having said that, personally, I don't think the mobile dept of Samsung is that giant to topple Apple. Samsung is anything but new ideology. If there's a new shift to come in the consumer market, I'm expecting it from google more than any other company.
 
And once upon a time Nokia and Blackberry were the market leaders.You know what they did?They laughed at the iPhone thinking they were too big to fail.And look where they are now.Nokia is canned and Blackberry is licking the scraps left behind by other manufacturers .All this happened over a span of just 5 years
It will be the low end and mid range android devices that get the better of Apple in the end not the high end flagship android devices.
 
Wait.So the entire interior of the iPhone 7 isn't leaked?We don't know the display assembly?We don't know how the processor looks ? We don't know about one set of speaker holes being empty?We don't know the iPhone pro exists?We don't know it has a dual camera system?We don't know that it's the only device with 3 gigs of ram?We don't know the dual camera is exclusive to the iPhone pro?We don't know the 16GB variant is finally being dropped due to low sales?

Breaking News.The newer iPhone has a faster processor and more RAM then the one before it .

100% agree.Apart from some fans on Macrumors the whole world is now starting to see how Apple is falling behind.

This Forbes article says it all about how Apple is helping sell more Galaxy Note 7's more than ever

www.forbes.com/sites/brookecrothers/2016/08/13/with-galaxy-note-7-is-samsung-getting-too-far-ahead-of-apple/#562862b035bb

Nice deflection, seems like my point is being purposely avoided.
 
It will be the low end and mid range android devices that get the better of Apple in the end not the high end flagship android devices.


I absolutely agree with this premise. I think one of the major problems for Apple, in the short-term, is the strength of the US dollar which is taking the pricing in other countries to incredibly high levels.
 
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Yes absolutely agree. Every company goes through rise and fall. That's just how it is. Having said that, personally, I don't think the mobile dept of Samsung is that giant to topple Apple. Samsung is anything but new ideology. If there's a new shift to come in the consumer market, I'm expecting it from google more than any other company.
Samsung is a hardware company first. Apple is a services company first. Two differing philosophies and it shows in Their product and product releases.

Samsung is under extraordinary pressure to prove its worth. The mid-tier android manufacturers are producing phones that are 90% as good for 50% of the price.
 
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Nice deflection, seems like my point is being purposely avoided.
Lol you imply we know nothing about the iPhone and bring up irrelevant points like CPU speed and ram.Who cares if the iPhone is a 5 seconds faster and it can keep 4 more apps than the previous iPhone in memory.I am asking is there ANYTHING UNIQUE on this iPhone.Even the 6s had 3D Touch.If it was anything unique judging by past track records we would know about it beforehand.
If the only unique thing on this iPhone is your weak defence of "audio" I will repeat my statement that Apple is going to help Samsung sell more Galaxy Note 7s than ever before
 
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Lol you imply we know nothing about the iPhone and bring up irrelevant points like CPU speed and ram.Who cares if the iPhone is a 5 seconds faster and it can keep 4 more apps than the previous iPhone in memory.I am asking is there ANYTHING UNIQUE on this iPhone.Even the 6s had 3D Touch.If it was anything unique judging by past track records we would know about it beforehand.
If the only unique thing on this iPhone is your weak defence of "audio" I will repeat my statement that Apple is going to help Samsung sell more Galaxy Note 7s than ever before
Lol, I state emphatically you think because you know there are speaker homes in the case that's it for the release. You're acting as if this is the day after the keynote.

You can keep repeating yourself as much as you like. You were wrong for about 2.5 years in a row, not a good track record.
 
Samsung is a hardware company first. Apple is a services company first. Two differing philosophies and it shows in Their product and product releases.

Samsung is under extraordinary pressure to prove its worth. The mid-tier android manufacturers are producing phones that are 90% as good for 50% of the price.
Completely agree with all of your points there.
 
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Lol, I state emphatically you think because you know there are speaker homes in the case that's it for the release. You're acting as if this is the day after the keynote.

You can keep repeating yourself as much as you like. You were wrong for about 2.5 years in a row, not a good track record.
What did we not know about the iPhone 6s that the leaks didn't tell us?

I trust the track record of leakers more than you.KGI has never been wrong in recent years.He holds more weight than you
 
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It will be the low end and mid range android devices that get the better of Apple in the end not the high end flagship android devices.
Mid range Androids aren't even updated past 1 version that they ship with.No way are they competing with Apple on any front.The only phone that stands a chance is the Nexus as it comes close to the iPhone model but realistically it will always stay a niche offering
 
What did we not know about the iPhone 6s that the leaks didn't tell us?

I trust the track record of leakers more than you.KGI has never been wrong in recent years.He holds more weight than you
seems like you completely missed the point of this. You can believe whatever OR WHOMEVER you want, the full scope of the release will only be known at the keynote.
 
The only real thing of substance that has been added since is 3d touch and even then that's more a convenience rather than a feature add.

Your really selling 2GB of RAM short.... 3D Touch was pretty coo when it was first announced, but having 2GB of RAM was the most compelling reason to upgrade for me.

And even before the iphone 7 has been released, most tech bloggers are already calling the Note 7 the best smartphone of 2016. I mean think about that, all we have is strong rumours about the iphone 7 plus the ios 10 betas, the keynote hasn't even happened yet, and already the so called experts are saying the Note 7 is the best release of 2016. What does that say about Apple and what does that say about the iphone 7?

Samsung did a awesome job with the Note 7... it has great hardware and tons of software features that will sway Apple users. But I'm ecstatic of this battle between Samsung and Apple, it will only put pressure on Apple to bring something big to the table with the iPhone 7.

I like the fact Samsung didn't do any storage variants and put out one model with the ability to add additional storage. None of that entry level storage crap... rumors already indicate Apple removing the 16Gb in favor of 32GB, but with these different price points of storage variants that Apple will display and Samsung coming out with one price point.. I think that is smart.

But I'm anxious to see what Apple announces and the pressure is definitely on.
 
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i'm buying to get ride of my big 6s plus that i don't like for two smaller iphone 7 4.7 one for me and my dad plus two apple care and two nice cases from amazon and a temperglass screen guard with two extra lighting cable
Why do you sound like you're ordering from McDonalds?
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with the OPs question. Don't think of it as a question to the world, think of it as a question to MR.

No doubt alot of smartphone enthusiasts will upgrade to the 7 this year, they will all have their reasons, but alot won't.

In 2014 when the 6 and 6 Plus were released, sales went through the roof, because of the larger screen. But that was 2 years ago. 2 years in the smartphone industry is an eternity. The only real thing of substance that has been added since is 3d touch and even then that's more a convenience rather than a feature add.

Since the release of the 6/6 Plus, Samsung has come out with the Galaxy 7 edge and the soon to be available Note 7. And the G7 sales are on fire. And even before the iphone 7 has been released, most tech bloggers are already calling the Note 7 the best smartphone of 2016. I mean think about that, all we have is strong rumours about the iphone 7 plus the ios 10 betas, the keynote hasn't even happened yet, and already the so called experts are saying the Note 7 is the best release of 2016. What does that say about Apple and what does that say about the iphone 7?

Yes Apple has 200 billion in the bank but it will need to make sure its 2017 phone makes up for the already underwhelming rumours and feedback it's yet to be released 2016 phone offers because the mainstream population of the world are smarter than what some on here give them credit for. I know heaps of smartphone users who switched to Samsung because of things like waterproofing etc. Samsung sales are up, iphone sales are down. This should not be cause for concern to Apple YET, but they better pull their finger out before it becomes the norm and not just an exception to the norm.

Me personally as a 6 Plus user, I will be waiting for the 2017 edition. If that will result in disappointment when the time comes, then so be it, at least I will avoid the disappointment of this year and save plenty of dollars in the process because I'm tipping the iphone 7 will be the most expensive phone of 2016.

I agree! I'm very close to not buying an iPhone 7 because I already feel disappointed by upgrading to the iPhone 6s! Which—let's remember—most people didn't do!

So if Apple didn't do anything for you LAST year, what does that mean they're going to do for you THIS year?

I could've saved my money! Same thing when I bought at returned that Apple Watch! I could've saved my money!
 
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I agree! I'm very close to not buying an iPhone 7 because I already feel disappointed by upgrading to the iPhone 6s! Which, let's remember most people didn't do!

So if Apple didn't do anything for you LAST year, what does that mean they're going to do for you THIS year?
I thought the 6S plus was a good upgrade. On paper it didn't sound like much but the ram increase was very welcome. I also like Live Photos and and hey Siri. 3D Touch has been hit and miss but it looks like it will come into its own with iOS 10.
 
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À la, iPhone 8!

The thing about iPhones always are that they have that must-buy new feature. (And exclusive! You know it's GOT to be exclusive!) Apple usually doesn't release the "marquis phone" without it. Where's the exclusivity here? I mean you could say Airpods are the new exclusive thing but, that's something I could consider contrived.

But with this, the iPhone 8 is what we all want. We don't want this upcoming phone, if every rumor turned out to be true: I'LL WAIT.


assumptions, assumptions, assumptions. you know what they say when you assume...
 
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