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And yes, its absolutely 4.2 GM's fault. Everything worked fine on 3.2.2. Wifi should work, without question. It may be an issue with certain routers but that is Apple's responsibility to make their equipment work with general population.

Really?

Even if the issue here is a chipset that is present in all the APs that people are having problem with? Even if this chipset is doing something wrong?

Apple should install a hack or workaround to work with a buggy chipset?

From reading these postings, and looking at the poll data it is not clear to blame a single target yet. There are plenty of people who don't have the issue, and the poll data shows they actually outnumber the people having issues.

Note: I am having issues with a Belkin AP. Anyone else specific to Belkin?

Sure maybe 4.2 changed wifi behavior, but maybe you should hold off on pointing a finger since you don't know the root cause.
 
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For those of you with Wifi problems: How far away from the router are you sitting? Is the router somewhere relatively high or does it stand low?

I am now at a hotel and I have a mobile wifi hotspot router with me that I use to go to the Internet when on the road. I had the Mifi on the TV table and I was sitting on the bed, around 2 meters away from the router. Not a single issue. Then I decided to move the mifi router a little bit lower, in order to be able to charge it, since its cable is a bit short. At the same time I sat differently on the bed, and the ipad was facing the wall. As soon as I did that I lost Internet connection. I moved back the router on the tv table and the connection was there again. At the same time my iPhone 4 didn't have any issues connecting to my mifi. It seems to me that the ipad is now much more sensitive and loses wifi connection more easily than before. I would say at this point that Apple should fix that. In the meantime try putting you router somewhere high.
At home I don't have this issue, no matter where I have my iPad. I am using a DLink router.
 
Supersede ... It's absolutely apples fault. Have you followed the previous wifi issues with the iPad? Apple eventually fixed them. ALL other devices work without a hitch. It's that simple man, apple should test this stuff on routers other than airport express.

They will fix it eventually, just like they did with 3.2.2. But it is their problem, no question about it. Nothing you can say will change that. Wifi should work, period. And apple has had issues with it on the iPad since it's inception.

If it's a router issue then how come all other apple devices work perfectly? It's something within the iPad that is the issue.
 
Petvas ... Yes, distance to router is the issue. The new 4.2 GM hasmajor sensitivity issues with routers and apple should fix it before they release it but I doubt they will.
 
Petvas ... Yes, distance to router is the issue. The new 4.2 GM hasmajor sensitivity issues with routers and apple should fix it before they release it but I doubt they will.

Yes, it seems that to be the case, although as I said before, at home I have none issues, no matter how big the distance to my router is.
 
I just don't understand why my ipad works fine on 4.2 at my friends home using the same security settings, but not at my own home. We don't have the same router model, but we both own Linksys routers.

My only distinguishable theory between my 3 locations would have to be that my home is a two story, while the other 2 locations were single story.

This is such a major pain, because I really to enjoy 4.2.
 
I have a feeling Apple will be pushing out 4.2 tomorrow with no acknowledgment of these problems.

There is no excuse for this getting past their supposedly rigorous testing processes. :rolleyes:

Your criticizing Apple over an issue on something that hasn't even been released yet. At least wait till the update is officially released by Apple before you tear into them for for their lack of QC. For all you know Apple is aware of this issue and they are delaying the "official" relase of 4.2 to fix this issue.

It is possible that this problem cropped up after Apple seeded the GM to developers, and even though traditionally the GM is the same as what is officially released to the public, it doesn't always mean there are not minor glitches to work out.

It was not Apple's intention that you and other people found the GM version and downloaded to your iPad. Unless you are a devloper testing the new operating system then you really shouldn't be complaining. And if you are a devloper then you should realize that this is all part of the process to fixing bugs and glitches in new updated IOS releases.

Right now none of your complaining is going to be useful to anyone because Apple is not going to acknowledge your concerns because the update is not yet intended for the public use.

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Guys, this is very similar to the original wifi issues the iPad had. Some routers work and some don't. Apple finally fixed it with 3.2.2.

Not sure what they finally figured out but they did figure it out. They need to do it again, there is no reason for any device that uses wifi to not connect to third party routers. It's ridiculous, it should be so simple yet it's plagued the iPad since it's inception.
 
Your criticizing Apple over an issue on something that hasn't even been released yet. At least wait till the update is officially released by Apple before you tear into them for for their lack of QC. For all you know Apple is aware of this issue and they are delaying the "official" relase of 4.2 to fix this issue.

It is possible that this problem cropped up after Apple seeded the GM to developers, and even though traditionally the GM is the same as what is officially released to the public, it doesn't always mean there are not minor glitches to work out.

It was not Apple's intention that you and other people found the GM version and downloaded to your iPad. Unless you are a devloper testing the new operating system then you really shouldn't be complaigning. And if you are a devloper then you should realize that this is all part of the process to fixing bugs and glitches in new updated IOS releases.

Right now none of your complaiging is going to be useful to anyone because Apple is not going to acknowledge your concerns because the update is not yet intended for the public use.

This whole thread has actually been a lot of people giving input as to what may be the problem. What you need to realize, is things start to become protocol, and people start to have expectations that you may not like.

It's going to be like this, because Apple follows a system like clockwork. "Apple says this, so they do this", and "We know apple releases things on this day, so chances are it'll happen next year". Just like everything else, people ran their mouths about GM being released and the final version blah blah blah. It's bound to become something of a public bandwagon where people believe what they read, and jump at the chance of having the GM.

You have to realize that people will inevitably complain whether you like it or not. Also, you act like Apple puts everything out perfect every release. There's been a lot of "oops" on Apple's part very recently from iOS compromises, Facetime privacy issues and Macbook Air failures. Who's to say they wouldn't release it?
 
Your criticizing Apple over an issue on something that hasn't even been released yet. At least wait till the update is officially released by Apple before you tear into them for for their lack of QC. For all you know Apple is aware of this issue and they are delaying the "official" relase of 4.2 to fix this issue.

It you and other people found the GM version and downloaded to your iPad. Unless you are a devloper testing the new operating system then you really shouldn't be complaign.......

Um, this thread is about trying to help people who have the crappy wifi issue with ios 4.2, so if you don't have any insight to help, then its pointless to rant about people who actually have issues. What's the point to do that?

You were very helpful, thanks so much :rolleyes:
 
Um, this thread is about trying to help people who have the crappy wifi issue with ios 4.2, so if you don't have any insight to help, then its pointless to rant about people who actually have issues. What's the point to do that?

You were very helpful, thanks so much :rolleyes:

Ok first off I haven't stopped anyone from offering any advice on how to fix their wifi problems. However, saying that Apple is failing to QC it's newest IOS update for the iPad, when it hasn't even officially been released is just silly. Being helpfull toward other people experiencing this problem has nothing to do with anything I wrote. That is because no one who is not a devleoper should have access to 4.2 yet. Because you, like so many others, wanted to get their hands on the update early (hey not faulting you just stating the obvious) you are now having a problem that you would otherwise not have had if you didn't search the Interenet looking for a way to download the update.

Having said that, it is entirely possible that since these wifi issues were not present on the earlier beta releases of 4.2, that something unexpected happened at the last minute when Apple seeded the GM version of 4.2 As a result it is also quite possible that Apple is working to address this issue right now, so that when they do release this to the public this glitch is solved.

BTW, there is a very simple way to correct this issue, and that is revert back to 3.2, which is what most people are using right now, because it is the last official update Apple released. I have no problem with people who want to download stuff off the Internet before it is actually released. But if you do so you have to live with the bugs and glitches that can sometimes come as a result of doing so.

If and when Apple does officially release 4.2 to the publc, and it still has these wifi issues, then you can tear Apple a new a## all you want. It will be well be deserved. All I am saying is that people should actually wait and see if Apple fixes this bug, you know, before it's actually released.
 
Ok first off I haven't stopped anyone from offering any advice on how to fix their wifi problems. However, saying that Apple is failing to QC it's newest IOS update for the iPad, when it hasn't even officially been released is just silly. Being helpfull toward other people experiencing this problem has nothing to do with anything I wrote. That is because no one who is not a devleoper should have access to 4.2 yet. Because you, like so many others, wanted to get their hands on the update early (hey not faulting you just stating the obvious) you are now having a problem that you would otherwise not have had if you didn't search the Interenet looking for a way to download the update.

Having said that, it is entirely possible that since these wifi issues were not present on the earlier beta releases of 4.2, that something unexpected happened at the last minute when Apple seeded the GM version of 4.2 As a result it is also quite possible that Apple is working to address this issue right now, so that when they do release this to the public this glitch is solved.

BTW, there is a very simple way to correct this issue, and that is revert back to 3.2, which is what most people are using right now, because it is the last official update Apple released. I have no problem with people who want to download stuff off the Internet before it is actually released. But if you do so you have to live with the bugs and glitches that can sometimes come as a result of doing so.

If and when Apple does officially release 4.2 to the publc, and it still has these wifi issues, then you can tear Apple a new a## all you want. It will be well be deserved. All I am saying is that people should actually wait and see if Apple fixes this bug, you know, before it's actually released.

I actually completely agree with your logic. I reverted back to 3.2.2 when I found I was having issues with 4.2 GM once I was done testing it out myself.

I guess the only thing I can say that we all can truly agree upon is, I hope they get it right when it's finally released to the public. I think this thread in general shows our concern that we want to do our best to help narrow down the problem.
 
This whole thread has actually been a lot of people giving input as to what may be the problem. What you need to realize, is things start to become protocol, and people start to have expectations that you may not like.

It's going to be like this, because Apple follows a system like clockwork. "Apple says this, so they do this", and "We know apple releases things on this day, so chances are it'll happen next year". Just like everything else, people ran their mouths about GM being released and the final version blah blah blah. It's bound to become something of a public bandwagon where people believe what they read, and jump at the chance of having the GM.

You have to realize that people will inevitably complain whether you like it or not. Also, you act like Apple puts everything out perfect every release. There's been a lot of "oops" on Apple's part very recently from iOS compromises, Facetime privacy issues and Macbook Air failures. Who's to say they wouldn't release it?

It doesn't matter what advice people give on this thread. The fact is that Apple hasn't released this yet. Which means that they could scrap the entire GM and start over if they so desired. And if they did that, every thing that everyone in thread is getting all worked up over would be moot.

It's like somebody stealing a prototype from Apple, and then complaining that that the device isn't fully functional.

Yes Apple does follow patterns and normally a GM release is all but set to be the final version. But things happen. Things change at the last minute. Plans sometimes get altered.

Apple has taken a lot of hits recently for their QC, many of them deserved. But stating that 4.2 is already an unmitigated disater before it actually hits it's officiall release is jumping the shark just a tad IMO.
 
It doesn't matter what advice people give on this thread. The fact is that Apple hasn't released this yet. Which means that they could scrap the entire GM and start over if they so desired. And if they did that, every thing that everyone in thread is getting all worked up over would be moot.
we don't know when they are due to release it, for all we know they plan to release it next week. the only way we will know if it's been delayed is if 10.6.5 and itunes 10.1 come out and 4.2 is not out the day after as these 2 are pre-requsites for 4.2 and they wouldn't hold those 2 up just for 4.2
 
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Petvas ... Yes, distance to router is the issue.

I have to disagree. I had these issues before I gave up and went back to 3.2 and I work next to the router.

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I found a workaround with my 3G iPad which would was useless with wifi on 4.2


If cellular data is disabled while connected to my work wifi now i constantly get the 'not connected in Internet'

But

If I have 3G enabled as well while connected to work wifi it works fine, and no it isn't using my cellular data as certain sites are blocked on my cellular plan by orange.
 
I am also having problems with WiFi since updating to the GM from the last official release.

I updated using the beta version of iTunes rather than doing a clean install however given the feedback in this thread it does not appear to make a difference.

I have an WDS network with a Timecapsule/Airport Extreme hooked up to an Airport express (old model).

My iPad has exactly the same problem as listed by everyone else. It connects to a page a few times then the browser appears to hang mid download and then all net activity is killed. I can't even ping my router.

If I kill the connection, reset network settings, jump around, apply airplane mode, sacrifice goat then randomly I can get a connection back and then it dies again. If I maintain activity by continually clicking links then the connection seems to stay live longer than if I click a page and then spend a few minutes reading it before trying to update again.

My iPhone running 4.2 and my Macbook are able to connect perfectly while the iPad is stuttering.

I can't really complain given that this is theoretically still a beta release but I hope that this is picked up on before the official release. If I can't find a workaround I'll have to go back to 3.2.
 
Guys, this is very similar to the original wifi issues the iPad had. Some routers work and some don't. Apple finally fixed it with 3.2.2.

Not sure what they finally figured out but they did figure it out. They need to do it again, there is no reason for any device that uses wifi to not connect to third party routers. It's ridiculous, it should be so simple yet it's plagued the iPad since it's inception.

I bought an Airport Extreme because I was tired of Wifi issues between Apple products and third party routers. My ISP used a 2wire modem/router and this pushed me to get an Airport Extreme. Have had 0 issues with it and it is the most stable router I have ever purchased.
 
I am also having problems with WiFi since updating to the GM from the last official release.

I updated using the beta version of iTunes rather than doing a clean install however given the feedback in this thread it does not appear to make a difference.

I have an WDS network with a Timecapsule/Airport Extreme hooked up to an Airport express (old model).

My iPad has exactly the same problem as listed by everyone else. It connects to a page a few times then the browser appears to hang mid download and then all net activity is killed. I can't even ping my router.

If I kill the connection, reset network settings, jump around, apply airplane mode, sacrifice goat then randomly I can get a connection back and then it dies again. If I maintain activity by continually clicking links then the connection seems to stay live longer than if I click a page and then spend a few minutes reading it before trying to update again.

My iPhone running 4.2 and my Macbook are able to connect perfectly while the iPad is stuttering.

I can't really complain given that this is theoretically still a beta release but I hope that this is picked up on before the official release. If I can't find a workaround I'll have to go back to 3.2.

Will you try backing up your iPad and doing a clean Restore? Please make sure you do not restore from your backup.

Test that and see if it works.
 
If I have 3G enabled as well while connected to work wifi it works fine, and no it isn't using my cellular data as certain sites are blocked on my cellular plan by orange.

Are you sure? Because if the iPad sees that the WiFi connection is not working — although connected with a three bars signal — I think it automatically starts to use the 3G, if connected.
 
Will you try backing up your iPad and doing a clean Restore? Please make sure you do not restore from your backup.

Test that and see if it works.

I did a complete restore and set up a new iPad — not from backup.
No luck.
 
The wifi problem for me is really odd as well it says I'm connected but doesn't load up anything and other times it works fine.
 
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