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Windows Laptop Makers 'Worried' About New MacBook Air Impacting Sales
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It has increased this year, and increased substantially over the last 5 years, ten years and twenty years.
You need to acquaint yourselves with the facts.
We arent talking about kids playing with free software.
We are talking about Creative Professionals, people who make good enough money on creative endeavors to actually invest in their computers. Overwhelmingly they buy Macs.
I never said it was. I'll leave it there, I'm not going into answering each single point that you fragmented.
Couldn't agree more.
A really interesting point is Apple's claim at WWDC that 79% of car buyers would not consider buying a car if it did not have Carplay. John Gruber asked into this claim, since it seems very high compared with iOS market share compared to Android. The answer given by Craig Federighi was (parahrased) that it relates to the demographic of people buying new cars. In other words, a majority of Android users buys used cars, whereas a majority of iOS users buys new cars (relatively speaking, perhaps not literally a majority). They simply sit on a majority of the people actually spending money. I'm sure someone will argue that this is because Android users are "smarter" by being more value oriented, and people paying more money for newer/better products are being scammed... Doesn't actually matter. The fact is, Apple has succeeded in making people who actually want to spend money, spend it on their products.
Before M1, Apple was selling regular Intel laptops, but for higher prices, with mostly outdated design & specs (MacBook Air 13" 2017, anyone? Mac mini 2014?), overpriced upgrades, and arguably a better OS, which was not enough to warrant higher price for most.
Nowadays, Mac computers are simply the best deal on the market.
I'd love to see a breakdown of creative software usage on Windows and Mac... Adobe, DaVinci Resolve, 3D software, CAD/CAM, etc.
I remember 20 years ago there was this idea of "I do graphics design... therefore I use a Mac"
But nowadays any moderately powerful computer can run all this software. Windows isn't just for spreadsheets.
With things like CUDA acceleration on NVidia cards... a lot of creative software is written for, and optimized for, Windows PCs.
In other words... you can be "creative" without using a Mac.
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Good for Apple, I'm a shareholder so it's great news for me. On a personal level I could never live without a touchscreen, and find MacOS terribly clunky, but I'm probably a minority seeing how well Apple is selling these. It also should keep PC makers on their toes looking to optimize their products, and maybe even innovate. Competition is good.
Should have said "Most people".
And there is a whole category of people that get a laptop from their job and it is a WinTel laptop without them having a choice.
I know that the stated reason by Apple was that many Intel chips weren’t “suitable” for Mac computers, or that Apple needed to change their computer design to accommodate the latest generation of Intel chips. I am going to make a guess that this was a Jon Ivy problem because of the thinness fetish. You couldn’t get the ultra thin and ultra light laptops if you needed a bigger power supply, battery and cooling system. And Apple wasn’t a large enough chip user for Intel to prioritize a high computational processor that could run with good performance using less wattage. So Apple had to wait for new chips because of power limitations that Windows machines didn’t have. If it cost a Wintel machine battery life then oh well. This is why I think Apple got into the chip design business, because they couldn’t get a powerful chip without it needing a lot of watts.
Intel kept missing their promised TDP improvements year after year after year. The 2016 MBP was clearly designed for thermal constraints that Intel promised but *never* delivered.
In Europe Macs aren't "cheap" in any way. The cheapest M2 Air with 8GB memory and 256 GB SSD costs 1519€. We bought an ASUS 14 Pro for 799€, featuring an hires OLED display 16:10 aspect ratio, 16GB memory, 512GB SSD, and some unique features not found on the M2 (to be honest, the opposite is also true). It has a GTX1650, which allows for some gaming if wanted to. If I want the same amount of memory and SSD in the M2 it will cost 1979€ = double the price. I'm not saying it's the same computer, but at least it's a decent, well built one for a lot less money.
I already provided a link proving that it's not the case. What's your data? All you have is a catch phrase.
Think of it this way...
The M2 Air is a $799 computer... but that copy of MacOS is worth $399...
The M2 Air is a $799 computer... but that copy of MacOS is worth $399...
I’m not entirely sure I understand what you are trying to say. But Apple is not getting their increased market share from “most people”.
And, yes I am one of those people that don’t have a choice. The fact I chose to still buy a private Mac is just because I am a geek (and partly because I don’t decide what to install on my work PC, so I need a seperate private computer anyway). But, this article is about manufacturers worrying about what will happen in the future, not about what happens now. There are also companies that hand out Macs without giving the employee a choice. The trouble for the existing manufacturers will come IF more companies start doing that. My “office delivery computer”, the Lenovo I got from work, costs more than my Mac. Purchase price is not as much of an issue in the workplace.
YouTube creators are a dime a dozen like DJs. A lot of DJs think they're pros when they're awful. Rather have a jukebox.
If they are so worried...they should make a better product.
Also, it's a crying shame that Justin Long defected from Apple to PC. I haven't been this disillusioned since the Verizon guy switched to Sprint. "Can you hear me now?" Oh, we hear you loud and clear...traitor! 😒
Also, it's a crying shame that Justin Long defected from Apple to PC. I haven't been this disillusioned since the Verizon guy switched to Sprint. "Can you hear me now?" Oh, we hear you loud and clear...traitor! 😒
Yeah the computer OEM that had the biggest growth last year by a big margin was Asus. Which isn't a surprise if you look at their products.
True. Every time I want to wake up with Touch-ID and I use my nose, it doesn’t work. But weirdly it works every time I use my right index finger.
I get your point that it might be broken if someone doesn’t have a right index finger, but there’s a hack that will fix that (different finger).
So whilst you may have a link to a person who had a bug, it’s not a big concern. That’s why they have warranties.
I'm just waiting for the rumored MB 12 inch with a new Apple Silicon on the 3 nm TSMC. It would be the ultimate ultra portable laptop for me. Hopefully it will be 2 lbs or less.