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Would you buy the new iPhone 8 for $1,500 or more?

  • Yes

    Votes: 49 13.7%
  • No

    Votes: 309 86.3%

  • Total voters
    358
I totally agree - it sounds appalling. But we all have our place in society and everyone wants to feel they're doing well. Seeing someone else is in a worse position than me confirms I'm in a good position. I'm just being honest.

Of course people want to feel like they're doing well. It doesn't mean successful people have to look down on others less fortunate than they are to feel like that. Unless they're a dick.

Totally off topic and I'll leave it at that.
 
This is a spinoff the the thread where John Gruber about the next iPhone at a price point starting at $1500.

Let's say Apple starts the iPhone 8 at $1500, would you buy? I don't want to give a sample set of specs or anything, but let's just assume it's a new design, starts out at high storage (no 32 or 64 even), and has more bells and whistles than the iPhone 7s/7s Plus. I'm only putting 2 poll options, if you aren't sure if you'd buy it or not then just don't vote I guess. I just want to see what % of the population would buy it at this price or completely ignore it because of the price.
I'm going back to this:
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PS. Maybe not, I remember one month of roaming charges once almost cost me $1500.
 
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And that would be absolutely your choice.
I was making fun of your comment....but IF o have to explain it it might mean I wasn't far from the truth...

Buy what you need / want because you need / want it, not to confront yourself with others.
 
Because #1, Apple charges a premium for all their hardware. I wouldn't use Samsung as an example, as their price point system is not not entirely the same as Apple's, nor do they want to be.

We don't know Apple's reasoning for what they will charge when the device releases, because we are unaware what this newly rumored 5.8 OLED iPhone will offer. Also, I'm not sure Apple needs a reason to determine what they want to charge for a product just based of "What features justify this price tag." But given Apple's track record with how they price their hardware, I would say the OLED iPhone will be near a $1000 at the lowest storage tier.


Apples phones have generally been in the same ballpark as Samsung's flagships. Only this year did Samsung charge 100$ more. However this does not tackle the question if a oled phone can be married for 250 less why should I pay apple far more then the industry cost for oled. Oled is not some new magical technology that demands extreme cost. It's been on phones for years now.

As of now Samsung is doing more HARDWARE wise with its oled. Apple will use a flat screen vs. Samsung's more difficult and more expensive to produce curved screen yet Samsung is retailing for less then $1000. I most likely will still get an iPhone this year but if it will be the oled model apple has to earn that sale. As of now I am too skeptical of its value.

In my older age my hobby shifted from tech to firearms. Hints why I got my iphone 7 over a Pixel. But that iphone money that could go to my 1911. And I think I'll be just as happy.
 
I already paid through the nose for my 256 GB iPhone 7 Plus. It's so close to my idea of smartphone perfection. I would be willing to bump up the budget a bit more for true iPhone nirvana. But I would also then expect to keep it as long as I did my iPhone 4, which was the last time I felt I was at a sweet spot with an iPhone and therefore held onto it for close to 3 years. Then I'd get reasonable value for my money.

Can I ask what you dislike about the 7+ that makes you say this?

Not trying to be snippy or anything - I'm genuinely curious because I'm looking to upgrade to the 7+.
 
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Is anyone else reading the mention of a 7S and a 8 and thinking about the iPhone 4S?...when analysts said there'd be an iPhone 4S and a 5...and there wasn't

And I would not pay that much. They already bumped the price up for the 7+ (which I bought). I'd pay a little more if it's a nice device and packs more storage but not $1000 (at least for a base storage option). I would rather just spend some more and buy a new rMBP
 
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This is an anonymous forum. I'm just being honest.
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I totally agree - it sounds appalling. But we all have our place in society and everyone wants to feel they're doing well. Seeing someone else is in a worse position than me confirms I'm in a good position. I'm just being honest.

Your logic doesn't work though. Not to brag, but I could easily afford any phone on the market, even a $1500 iPhone, but I'm currently using a nearly 3 year old iPhone 6. I could also afford a better car than what I drive, and better clothes than what i wear. But the things that I have serve me quite well. Someone like you would look at me and assume that I can't afford better things. On the flip side, many people carry crushing debt just so that they can show off fancy things and make people think they are wealthier than they are. When you look at the really successful people like Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerburg, or Steve Jobs when he was alive, they all dress like they shop at Walmart. It's bad enough to judge people based on their financial status, but you don't even get an accurate picture a lot of the time.

It's like intelligence. My philosophy is that you should never have to tell people how smart you are. If it's not apparent from your words, actions, and accomplishments then it's meaningless. I've seen people try to win arguments by simply stating their IQ or GPA, or what degrees they have. Meanwhile the other person wins by making an intelligent point.
 
It depends.

Is this phone going to have something new? Something exciting? Something no other phone has?
 
Can I ask what you dislike about the 7+ that makes you say this?

Not trying to be snippy or anything - I'm genuinely curious because I'm looking to upgrade to the 7+.
Oh don't worry your question didn't seem snippy at all. There's actually very little to dislike. I do miss having a headphone jack but I'm thrilled with the results I'm getting from my camera so I don't regret upgrading from my 6s Plus, which I quite liked, but always had trouble with the camera making my blonde hair look greenish. With the 7 Plus all medium to brightly lit scenes I photograph look extremely close to how my eyes perceive them in person. Low light performance is quite good, too. I love smart phone photography so I'm thrilled with the 7 Plus camera.

Okay now why I don't consider my 7 Plus quite perfect:

The thing I have noticed is that all of my Android phones which would include the S7, S7 Edge, S8+ and my HtC 10 give me much more clarity and consistently excellent call quality over any of my iPhones past or present. They also have lower reported SAR ratings which is one of those safety concerns that some people debate about. I don't fret over it, but of course I'd prefer lower SAR ratings, knowing it's possible to attain them without sacrificing call quality.

And then my Samsung S7 and S7 Edge record really beautiful immersive stereo audio for my videos. When I listen back to my videos on my headphones I feel transported back to where I was when I was filming the video. iPhone 7 Plus does do a nice job of recording audio but it's not in stereo. There is no sense of direction when you listen on your headphones. It isn't as "alive".

Of course there can be too much of a good thing when it comes to picking up sound from multiple directions: My S8+ records in stereo audio but it picks up too much annoying and distracting ambient sound and is worse about picking up sound coming from one direction, like a person's speech from a stage. It will quickly get overwhelmed by the person two seats over rooting around in their purse for tic tacs and lose the person speaking up on stage.

My older Samsungs actually seemed to do a better job in such situations--focusing on sounds coming toward the back of the phone (back camera) and phasing out distracting sounds on the side. So at least in my experience Samsung has taken a small step back. I'm no expert in audio so I don't know the technical explanations behind the differences I'm noticing amongst all of these phones. I just know how I like the end results.

iPhone hasn't seemed to move at all. They've done wonders improving the visual component of the video but sound is very basic. It's not bad, but once you've heard your child's party recorded on an S7 Edge and you watch the video back and the stereo sound surrounds you and makes you feel you're back at the party and all the kids sound the way you remember it sounding, with two kids chatting behind you and three goofing off for the camera in front of you, it is very hard, for me at least, to be satisfied with the sound from the same party recorded on an iPhone. It's flat. Lifeless.

However I do have a stereo mic that plugs into the lighting connector that I use to get stereo audio, so I don't have to upgrade just for better audio alone. It just would be nice if my next IPhone could already record beautiful stereo sound the way my S7 and S7 Edge do.

I like the LCD display on my iPhone 7 Plus very much. But I read a lot of books on Kindle app. When I read them on my S8+ using light print on black background the battery doesn't take much of a hit. On my IPhone it does run down faster. So I would like to move to an OLED display for that reason. But the LCD on the iPhone 7 Plus is gorgeous so I wouldn't upgrade for OLED alone.

So basically I like the iPhone 7 Plus very much and found it to be a worthy upgrade from my 6s Plus despite the loss of the headphone jack. But there are still things I'd be willing to upgrade for if they are in a compelling package deal. I won't ditch the iPhone 7 Plus for just one upgraded feature alone.

The phone as a handheld computer with the 3 GB of RAM is a beast, so it does have longevity that way. Even a 6S Plus is still very capable.

Sorry this is so long. I hope my comments helped.
 
That price point will push me to a different model. $1,000 is pretty much it for me.
I buy 4-5 of these things at a time so now you're going from $4,000 to maybe $7,500 at a 1500 price point.

Nope, Nope, Nope and **** no.

Keep it right around the one grand mark and you have a sell. Super jump over that and I'll go 7s all day long.
 
I'm guessing you don't spend much time reading about world news then...
[doublepost=1499868877][/doublepost]What are the reasons that so many people are willing to spend their money on other s&*t and not put forward $2000 or less towards a device they use constantly?

What other objects do you take to the toilet for sudoko? Put in the car for navigation? Listen to when running? Study on when revising? Record an impromptu performance by a street performer? Etc etc etc.
Seriously, the mobile phone has become such an integral part of our lives.

Comparing between past mobile devices is akin to price anchoring. As I said earlier in this thread, I think we need to compare the amount of usage we get out of the device to identify just how much it costs us in comparison to other things that we purchase for granted i.e. takeaway coffee, designer clothing, gaming, Netflix subscriptions, gym membership or any of the many other disposable income categories

Drinking one coffee/day at $5 for two years is $3650.

I'm sure Apple would love for people to use this rationale for an absurdly priced phone. Frankly, it's ludicrous logic. There are numerous alternatives that accomplish the same for a fraction of the price. There's your price anchoring. On top of that, even if it is a multi-use tool used on a daily basis it's still a luxury item.
 
What are the reasons that so many people are willing to spend their money on other s&*t and not put forward $2000 or less towards a device they use constantly?

What other objects do you take to the toilet for sudoko? Put in the car for navigation? Listen to when running? Study on when revising? Record an impromptu performance by a street performer? Etc etc etc.
Seriously, the mobile phone has become such an integral part of our lives.

Comparing between past mobile devices is akin to price anchoring. As I said earlier in this thread, I think we need to compare the amount of usage we get out of the device to identify just how much it costs us in comparison to other things that we purchase for granted i.e. takeaway coffee, designer clothing, gaming, Netflix subscriptions, gym membership or any of the many other disposable income categories

Drinking one coffee/day at $5 for two years is $3650.
Well, for one thing, I don't buy $5 coffee every day. I also brown bag my lunch. No designer clothing, nor gym membership, either. Netflix is probably one of the best values for entertainment one can get.

Would I buy a $1500 iPhone? Depends on what the alternatives are. I don't use my phone that much and my iPhone 7 is already more than good enough that I'd probably keep it for as long as battery life remains acceptable.

The iPad? Yep. That gets used at least 8 hours every day so even if I bought a new one every year, it more than earns its keep.
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I'm sure Apple would love for people to use this rationale for an absurdly priced phone. Frankly, it's ludicrous logic. There are numerous alternatives that accomplish the same for a fraction of the price. There's your price anchoring. On top of that, even if it is a multi-use tool used on a daily basis it's still a luxury item.
High-end smartphones are luxury items. Just up to the individual where they're willing to draw a line in terms of pricing versus perceived value.
 
High-end smartphones are luxury items. Just up to the individual where they're willing to draw a line in terms of pricing versus perceived value.

But that doesn't change what an iPhone will always be no matter what the price tag, which is a commodity. It's not an investment, it's a piece of technology that is superseded on annual basis by another device. To me, there is nothing 'Luxury' about that, regardless of what Apple charges. It's difficult to incorporate the term luxury into a smart phone or any piece of technology for that matter, because technology ultimately is replaced by something newer and or "Better."
 
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But that doesn't change what an iPhone will always be no matter what the price tag, which is a commodity. It's not an investment, it's a piece of technology that is superseded on annual basis by another device. To me, there is nothing 'Luxury' about that, regardless of what Apple charges. It's difficult to incorporate the term luxury into a smart phone or any piece of technology for that matter, because technology ultimately is replaced by something newer and or "Better."
Luxury doesn't imply enduring or even longevity. Isn't unnecessary extravagance one of the definitions of luxury?

For the most part, a $200 smartphone can pretty much do all the same stuff that a $600+ smartphone can (OS differences notwithstanding). I consider choosing to spend more on a nicer, higher end smartphone a luxury option much like buying $100 jeans when you can get the same quality for $20-40.
 
No freaking way! That's the price of a MBP, which is something I could keep for around 5-7 years and it would still function properly and continue to be fast. Personally, I wouldn't feel comfortable using the same smartphone for 5-7 years, as it would become ridiculous slow with new OS updates.
 
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It's funny how some of the comments in this thread seem to be angled at Apple hate for a $1500 phone....that no one even knows is real or not.

There's no need to argue or complain about Apple or about pricing for a device that's purely conjecture.

NOW with that out of the way I'll mention two things, were this unicorn $1500 iPhone a reality:

- iOS. Say what you want, I've used Android and I've used Google and utterly and completely detest both. I don't like the way the screen is laid out, I don't like the minor animations...I just plain don't like the way the device operates. On top of that, Google as a company is one of the most detestable corporations on the planet. I used to say the same thing bout Microsoft, and I hated Windows Phone 7 until I used it firsthand (and then had to eat my words because I thought it was actually pretty slick). I'm very disappointed in some changes that dropped in iOS10 but it's still on an entirely different scale than Android.

- Build quality. Some of you don't care whether your device is plastic or metal. I do. The quality of the materials means much to me; and there's no denying that superior quality materials feel better, look better, and last longer overall. They also carry higher resale value. I've tinkered around with some "premium" (so called) Android phones and have been unimpressed at best with the build. I'm one of those people who owns little but it's most very good quality.

Would I pay $1500 for an iPhone? Hell no, but I buy my phones second hand anyway, so the price would be considerably less. Were it the only phone Apple made, then yes I would buy one. I keep my phones for one or two years, so while that's mighty steep I can also rationalize that it's a device I used a lot every day, for work and fun.

Oh don't worry your question didn't seem snippy at all. There's actually very little to dislike. I do miss having a headphone jack but I'm thrilled with the results I'm getting from my camera so I don't regret upgrading from my 6s Plus, which I quite liked, but always had trouble with the camera making my blonde hair look greenish. With the 7 Plus all medium to brightly lit scenes I photograph look extremely close to how my eyes perceive them in person. Low light performance is quite good, too. I love smart phone photography so I'm thrilled with the 7 Plus camera.

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I actually quite appreciate your describing it so well.

The audio difference between the Android and 7+ actual makes sense, the same stereo recording for the party video is the same stereo that's recording the tic tacs; but I'm an audio nut anyway - when I first read they removed the audio jack I was upset, then realized the audio signal is stronger (thus, generally better) from the power source anyway. I changed my mind on that front, plus I never charge and listen at the same time anyway.

The camera quality is very nice to know - I take pictures constantly with my phone. :)
 
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No freaking way! That's the price of a MBP, which is something I could keep for around 5-7 years and it would still function properly and continue to be fast. Personally, I wouldn't feel comfortable using the same smartphone for 5-7 years, as it would become ridiculous slow with new OS updates.

You could also add insecure as the updates for your iPhone would cease after 4 years.

(Before anyone jumps on this . . . that's not a complaint about smartphone updates, 4 years leads the market - I was extending nfl46's comparison to a MacBook)
 
It's funny how some of the comments in this thread seem to be angled at Apple hate for a $1500 phone....that no one even knows is real or not.

There's no need to argue or complain about Apple or about pricing for a device that's purely conjecture.

NOW with that out of the way I'll mention two things, were this unicorn $1500 iPhone a reality:

- iOS. Say what you want, I've used Android and I've used Google and utterly and completely detest both. I don't like the way the screen is laid out, I don't like the minor animations...I just plain don't like the way the device operates. On top of that, Google as a company is one of the most detestable corporations on the planet. I used to say the same thing bout Microsoft, and I hated Windows Phone 7 until I used it firsthand (and then had to eat my words because I thought it was actually pretty slick). I'm very disappointed in some changes that dropped in iOS10 but it's still on an entirely different scale than Android.

- Build quality. Some of you don't care whether your device is plastic or metal. I do. The quality of the materials means much to me; and there's no denying that superior quality materials feel better, look better, and last longer overall. They also carry higher resale value. I've tinkered around with some "premium" (so called) Android phones and have been unimpressed at best with the build. I'm one of those people who owns little but it's most very good quality.

Would I pay $1500 for an iPhone? Hell no, but I buy my phones second hand anyway, so the price would be considerably less. Were it the only phone Apple made, then yes I would buy one. I keep my phones for one or two years, so while that's mighty steep I can also rationalize that it's a device I used a lot every day, for work and fun.



I actually quite appreciate your describing it so well.

The audio difference between the Android and 7+ actual makes sense, the same stereo recording for the party video is the same stereo that's recording the tic tacs; but I'm an audio nut anyway - when I first read they removed the audio jack I was upset, then realized the audio signal is stronger (thus, generally better) from the power source anyway. I changed my mind on that front, plus I never charge and listen at the same time anyway.

The camera quality is very nice to know - I take pictures constantly with my phone. :)

May I ask what phone you are using now?

The earlier posts by you seemed to indicate that you left the iPhone scene years ago.
 
No freaking way! That's the price of a MBP, which is something I could keep for around 5-7 years and it would still function properly and continue to be fast. Personally, I wouldn't feel comfortable using the same smartphone for 5-7 years, as it would become ridiculous slow with new OS updates.
Doubt it will actually be that bad going forward. The iPhone 5s maintained very good performance with iOS updates.

A8 on iPhone 6+ wasn't quite as good because of heavier load due to the increased resolution but I wouldn't categorize the iPhone 6+ as ridiculously slow either.

A9X pretty much reached Intel Core level performance.

Problem is how's battery life after 5-7 years. Of late, battery and/or mechanical problems is the reason we've been updating our iPhones and not processing performance.
 
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