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I'm leaving for a few hours and won't be able to post until around 1pm EST (or 6pm here). Just letting you all know so my absence isn't seen as some sort of silent guilt if the fur gets flying in this thread. I'll wait for Phil to return before I cast a vote just in case he really is a WW hunter.
 
I think that's all I can say, given I'm not allowed to influence that game (I think?), but ravenvii, given the circumstances am I allowed to say at least what/who I've found?

No, absolutely not. That is not within the rules of the game. You are dead and your scan dies with you so that you cannot have any influence on the game.

This is turning out to be an arse of a game. abijnk (who is an infected werewolf) blurts her PM before she is allowed to and now King Mook Mook wants to do the same. Remarkable.
 
Philbeeney,
i got to say, your defense line doesn't hold any water.

- first if you really were the ww hunter, you would most definitively insta-shoot abijnk because you would KNOW that she had lied pointing to you as a wolf, and you would die otherwise from lynching. there is no way that you'd know for sure you could use it as effectively later (if at all)
- second, your being the wwhunter doesn't in any way make you immune to the vamphunter's shot.
- third, she wouldn't know you were the ww hunter, unless KMM scanned you and found that, but then why kill KMM?
- fourth, if she lied, and you don't turn tonight on the gallow, tomorrow she is dead. She knows that, and everyone else knows that. there is way too many people left for that to be a viable option right now.

Clearly this doesn't mean she won't be a suspect anymore, because she remains a viable candidate for infection, as well as nathan and willbro, for the simple reason that she is not a vamp, so infecting them doesn't risk wasting the infection on the immune vamps. And because she most likely is the vamphunter, she would bring protection and immunity from vamps to the fold.
(so sorry abbie, but you'll have remain in the list of suspects until all the ww are exposed :))

and KMM, sorry to see you go (again).

EDIT1: i concur that pointing to a scan result post-mortem is definitively not kosher.

EDIT2: and no mention in the narration of the signs of a battle, or a failed attack.
a detail to keep in mind for tfuture reference.

EDIT3: phil, the insta-kill is instantaneuous, so whoever uses it is allowed to know (and divulge) the results immediately. it is not a 'night action'.
If she did use the insta-kill and you were the ww-hunter, you would be dead immediately, not come morning.

besides, even if she had told us in the morning, what difference would have made?
you'd still be voted off the island
(actually, maybe you should thank her she didn't shoot you yesterday before rodimus voted for himself, because that would have sealed your fate one day earlier ;))
 
Votes so far:

philbeeney: 6 (NathanMuir, willbro, abijnk, Mexbearpig, Don't Panic, Melrose)
abijnk: 1 (philbeeney)
Majority is 7

Left to vote:
ucfgrad93
Melrose
appleguy123
iBlue
Renewed
Stonyc
 
Votes so far:

philbeeney: 5 (NathanMuir, willbro, abijnk, Mexbearpig, Don't Panic)
abijnk: 1 (philbeeney)
Majority is 7

Left to vote:
Rodimus Prime
ucfgrad93
Melrose
appleguy123
iBlue
Renewed
Stonyc

I am sure rodimus would love to vote, but right now he might have some problems pressing the keys with his immaterial fingers... ;)
 
Philbeeney. Because (a) It sound funny and silly to say; (2) His defense is kinda lame; and (C.) because it'll be hard to get enough votes on someone else.
 
Philbeeney,
i got to say, your defense line doesn't hold any water.

- first if you really were the ww hunter, you would most definitively insta-shoot abijnk because you would KNOW that she had lied pointing to you as a wolf, and you would die otherwise from lynching. there is no way that you'd know for sure you could use it as effectively later (if at all)
- second, your being the wwhunter doesn't in any way make you immune to the vamphunter's shot.
- third, she wouldn't know you were the ww hunter, unless KMM scanned you and found that, but then why kill KMM?
- fourth, if she lied, and you don't turn tonight on the gallow, tomorrow she is dead. She knows that, and everyone else knows that. there is way too many people left for that to be a viable option right now.

Clearly this doesn't mean she won't be a suspect anymore, because she remains a viable candidate for infection, as well as nathan and willbro, for the simple reason that she is not a vamp, so infecting them doesn't risk wasting the infection on the immune vamps. And because she most likely is the vamphunter, she would bring protection and immunity from vamps to the fold.
(so sorry abbie, but you'll have remain in the list of suspects until all the ww are exposed :))

and KMM, sorry to see you go (again).

EDIT1: i concur that pointing to a scan result post-mortem is definitively not kosher.

EDIT2: and no mention in the narration of the signs of a battle, or a failed attack.
a detail to keep in mind for tfuture reference.

EDIT3: phil, the insta-kill is instantaneuous, so whoever uses it is allowed to know (and divulge) the results immediately. it is not a 'night action'.
If she did use the insta-kill and you were the ww-hunter, you would be dead immediately, not come morning.

besides, even if she had told us in the morning, what difference would have made?
you'd still be voted off the island
(actually, maybe you should thank her she didn't shoot you yesterday before rodimus voted for himself, because that would have sealed your fate one day earlier ;))

Common sense like this is not helping my defence DP. ;)
 
Votes so far:

philbeeney: 6 (NathanMuir, willbro, abijnk, Mexbearpig, Don't Panic, Melrose)
abijnk: 1 (philbeeney)
Majority is 7

Left to vote:
ucfgrad93
Melrose
appleguy123
iBlue
Renewed
Stonyc

And Melrose gets to vote again? That's not fair and definitely not within the spirit of the game. ;)
 
No, absolutely not. That is not within the rules of the game. You are dead and your scan dies with you so that you cannot have any influence on the game.

This is turning out to be an arse of a game. abijnk (who is an infected werewolf) blurts her PM before she is allowed to and now King Mook Mook wants to do the same. Remarkable.

What are you talking about? The insta-kill is an INSTANT ability. It is tied to neither day nor night. I sent an received my PMs in the day time, but didn't get back to post them until the night. Someone who was actually a hunter would know this.
 
What are you talking about? The insta-kill is an INSTANT ability. It is tied to neither day nor night. I sent an received my PMs in the day time, but didn't get back to post them until the night. Someone who was actually a hunter would know this.

Apologies, I got my insta-kill and protection PM's mixed up. It's easy to do when you've got villagers breathing down your neck wanting a good ol' fashioned lynching.
 
I vote for philbeeney.

aaaand....done.

now, assuming that philbeeney will turn up all hairy (little doubt about that),
we remain with 11 people.

3 are (or were at some point) villagers (abijnk, willbro, nathanmuir)
among the others there are 1 wolf, 1 vamp and 1 goth
it seems impossible that vamp and goth haven't found each other yet (would we know for sure if we had lynched the other goth as well?)

plus there is likely the infected wolf, that could be anyone, including one of the first three.

for the next voting round i'd go with renewed, ucfgrad93, mexbearpig, apple123, melrose, iblue, stonyc in order of perceived baddiness.
 
Question: If the Vampire and the Goth haven't eloped by the end of the game (EDIT: By the time the WW are gone), in reference to Don't panic's post above, is it game over - or do we have to kill both of them too?
 
Question: If the Vampire and the Goth haven't eloped by the end of the game, in reference to Don't panic's post above, is it game over - or do we have to kill both of them too?

I'd assume it'd still be over given that they're both still villagers, correct?
 
Yeah, I'm thinking philbeeney's not taking the shot at abijnk means it was the last ditch effort to survive from a desperate wolfie. I'm late to the majority party but I absolutely would have voted philbeeney after this.

So well done to abijnk!


No idea about the goth and the vamp. Good question.
 
Question: If the Vampire and the Goth haven't eloped by the end of the game (EDIT: By the time the WW are gone), in reference to Don't panic's post above, is it game over - or do we have to kill both of them too?

The game continues in search for the Goth or the Vampire. Also, King Mook Mook, once you are killed, your secrets go with you. It isn't fun to play like that.
 
Yeah, I'm thinking philbeeney's not taking the shot at abijnk means it was the last ditch effort to survive from a desperate wolfie. I'm late to the majority party but I absolutely would have voted philbeeney after this.

So well done to abijnk!
Hey, what am I chopped liver? I've been saying philbeeney (not like it matters now) since late last week/weekend!!!*

If it turns out philbeeney is indeed a WW, then many thanks to abjink for helping prove part of my hypothesis. The quest is then on to find the remaining WW (or two?) and the Vamp/Goth.

And again, sorry for being missing the past day or so... really got hit hard at school. And really sorry that Rodimus had to die to get to this point. :( I wish it hadn't come down to him or me.

EDIT: *Granted, I did name abjink as suspicious too.. blergh.
 
^ Nah man, I loves me some Quintana! Just didn't believe it about the Phil till now.

The game continues in search for the Goth or the Vampire. Also, King Mook Mook, once you are killed, your secrets go with you. It isn't fun to play like that.


Whoa, spooky! Did anybody hear that? *protects brains* :p

I think Mookster was just trying to be funny without thinking much about what he was saying because if he'd actually scanned me I would have scanned clean, baby. Clean!
 
^ Nah man, I loves me some Quintana! Just didn't believe it about the Phil till now.
No, I definitely understand... it was, I'll admit a bit of a stretch at the time, and in some cases it was probably wrong like my first inclination to vote for abjink. But still, it was a bit frustrating to put out some thoughts only to have it ignored because I was deemed to be "chattier" than usual. :)
 
As the villagers assembled at philbeeney's door, there was a low growl inside. renewed slowly reached for the door handle when the door suddenly flew open and philbeeney ran into the crowd, biting and clawing.

He was easily overcome with superior numbers, and it took four villagers to drag the struggling philbeeney to the gallows and tie his hands and feet together, and finally fit the noose over his head.

"My pack! You know who you are! We shall prevail! Fear not my death!"

iBlue, standing by the lever as usual, snorted and pulled the lever.

philbeeney dropped. There was a fierce struggle as death begun to take hold. The rope holding his hands flew apart and huge claws came free, and with a swipe barely missed NathanMuir's throat. Before philbeeney could attempt another swipe, death finally took hold, and with a final howl, philbeeney is dead.

philbeeney is a werewolf. 11 now remain. It is NIGHT - Specials, you know what to do.
 
A couple things:

To answer the questions:

The vamps, you will know they are activated when people start dropping like flies (quicker) ;).

If all wolves are dead, but the vamps and goth are still alive, you will have to kill either one of them to neutralize the other to win the game.

About informing you of a failed hunter insta-kill, no under the current rules I will not inform you. You will only know if there is a successful kill (more on this, however, in the next game - I think it's something that I want to address).

Regarding King Mook Mook: I want to publicly post this because I want to make sure others consider this as well: Your post definitely broke the rules, even as it stands right now. The fact that you said you scanned a wolf is influencing the game. Think about it - players will attempt to deduct who you have scanned on who you have scanned in the past, and what you have said before you were eliminated. And the iBlue thing? Come on now. Even though you did not scan iBlue in the first place, that is obviously influencing the game by inciting people to suspect iBlue.

And yes, since it's way too late to edit the post, I am disclosing that iBlue wasn't who he scanned. That is all I will tell you. Consider your dead post more carefully, and don't let that happen again - that goes to everyone.

Thanks.

Lynch drama. :)
 
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