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Speaking of which, does anyone have a voting record or do we have to go back/rely on memory? (if there's one out that would sure be easier. I am a bit lazy when possible. :D)
I've attached the voting record that I put together this afternoon... I think it's right, but it doesn't include today's votes yet.

It is interesting to me that NathanMuir's list is almost the reverse of Don't Panic's and excludes some people that other people haven't. But Nathan's reasoning about the infected WW being a more experienced player seems sound... however, there's probably more information out there about the second original WW compared to the infected WW so I'm going to try to stick to tracking down the second original WW for now.

Just looking at the voting record...

ucfgrad93 has voted with philbeeney since KMM's lynching, last round excluded. He did cast the deciding vote though, but if he were a WW maybe he realized that philbeeney was a lost cause (or philbeeney and he discussed it) and didn't want to stand out from the crowd.

Mexbearpig has voted with philbeeney since the first day, excluding the last round and round two, when philbeeney didn't vote. However, he was the fourth to vote for philbeeney last round.

Maybe they are too obvious candidates for being WWs... but sometimes the circumstantial evidence is too hard to ignore. I'm conflicted between the two but I think I'm going to vote for ucfgrad93 because of his voting history and his quick vote for Jav6454 after philbeeney's vote.

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@Nathan, were you the sorcerer? I thought that you were dropping hints that you were, but I can't be sure.
There is no point in not revealing yourself now, because the werewolves obviously want to go after the vamps at this point, and the infection has already been used (if it wasn't on you ?).

yep, nathan publicly said he was the sorcerer, which is also consistent with many of his post before he outed himself.

him and willbro are the only two outed villagers currently alive.
 
@Nathan, were you the sorcerer? I thought that you were dropping hints that you were, but I can't be sure.
There is no point in not revealing yourself now, because the werewolves obviously want to go after the vamps at this point, and the infection has already been used (if it wasn't on you ?).

Yeah, I was.

I've attached the voting record that I put together this afternoon... I think it's right, but it doesn't include today's votes yet.

It is interesting to me that NathanMuir's list is almost the reverse of Don't Panic's and excludes some people that other people haven't. But Nathan's reasoning about the infected WW being a more experienced player seems sound... however, there's probably more information out there about the second original WW compared to the infected WW so I'm going to try to stick to tracking down the second original WW for now.

Just looking at the voting record...

ucfgrad93 has voted with philbeeney since KMM's lynching, last round excluded. He did cast the deciding vote though, but if he were a WW maybe he realized that philbeeney was a lost cause (or philbeeney and he discussed it) and didn't want to stand out from the crowd.

Mexbearpig has voted with philbeeney since the first day, excluding the last round and round two, when philbeeney didn't vote. However, he was the fourth to vote for philbeeney last round.

Maybe they are too obvious candidates for being WWs... but sometimes the circumstantial evidence is too hard to ignore. I'm conflicted between the two but I think I'm going to vote for ucfgrad93 because of his voting history and his quick vote for Jav6454 after philbeeney's vote.

EDIT: attachment didn't make it through the first time... and mispelled ucfgrad93's name

Thanks for doing the voting round up. Based on this interesting information I'll be changing my vote to ucfgrad93.

EDIT:
Voting Tally:

Don't panic: 1 (Melrose)
ufcgrad93: 4 (stonyc, NathanMuir, appleguy123, Don't panic)

Majority is 6.

Still to vote:

ucfgrad93
willbro
Mexbearpig
iBlue
renewed
 
I've attached the voting record that I put together this afternoon... I think it's right, but it doesn't include today's votes yet.

It is interesting to me that NathanMuir's list is almost the reverse of Don't Panic's and excludes some people that other people haven't. But Nathan's reasoning about the infected WW being a more experienced player seems sound... however, there's probably more information out there about the second original WW compared to the infected WW so I'm going to try to stick to tracking down the second original WW for now.

Just looking at the voting record...

ucfgrad93 has voted with philbeeney since KMM's lynching, last round excluded. He did cast the deciding vote though, but if he were a WW maybe he realized that philbeeney was a lost cause (or philbeeney and he discussed it) and didn't want to stand out from the crowd.

Mexbearpig has voted with philbeeney since the first day, excluding the last round and round two, when philbeeney didn't vote. However, he was the fourth to vote for philbeeney last round.

Maybe they are too obvious candidates for being WWs... but sometimes the circumstantial evidence is too hard to ignore. I'm conflicted between the two but I think I'm going to vote for ucfgrad93 because of his voting history and his quick vote for Jav6454 after philbeeney's vote.

EDIT: attachment didn't make it through the first time... and mispelled ucfgrad93's name

This is a very condemning vote record for ucfgrad93.
Has he played this game before? It seems as though it is too obvious that he would vote with Philbeeney almost every time.
 
I've attached the voting record that I put together this afternoon... I think it's right, but it doesn't include today's votes yet.

It is interesting to me that NathanMuir's list is almost the reverse of Don't Panic's and excludes some people that other people haven't. But Nathan's reasoning about the infected WW being a more experienced player seems sound... however, there's probably more information out there about the second original WW compared to the infected WW so I'm going to try to stick to tracking down the second original WW for now.

Just looking at the voting record...

ucfgrad93 has voted with philbeeney since KMM's lynching, last round excluded. He did cast the deciding vote though, but if he were a WW maybe he realized that philbeeney was a lost cause (or philbeeney and he discussed it) and didn't want to stand out from the crowd.

Mexbearpig has voted with philbeeney since the first day, excluding the last round and round two, when philbeeney didn't vote. However, he was the fourth to vote for philbeeney last round.

Maybe they are too obvious candidates for being WWs... but sometimes the circumstantial evidence is too hard to ignore. I'm conflicted between the two but I think I'm going to vote for ucfgrad93 because of his voting history and his quick vote for Jav6454 after philbeeney's vote.

EDIT: attachment didn't make it through the first time... and mispelled ucfgrad93's name

excellent post

i still like renewed as a latent vamp/goth, and i was thinking that it would be important to get one of them next before they get activated (so we only have one ww left). <- EDIT: mistake
but since ucfgrad93 was next on my list, i'll follow suit and see if we can speed up the game
 
What do you mean one ww? Philbeeney most likely infected someone before he went, that or he was the infected one. So there are still 2 werewolves out there.

yes, you are completely right. i was typing something else, corrected and modified and that came out.
completely agree that philbeeney must have infected someone before his demise. sorry for the confusion
 
If we get the other goth/vamp will we be told or will it be a mystery?

if we get the vamp, he/she should turn, so that's easy but if we get the goth, I am not sure.
i think in a previous game villager were informed that the vamp danger was no more, but i am not sure was the same situation.
abijnk would have known, i suppose, but we can't count on her anymore, unfortunately.
 
...
in term of infection, everyone is a candidate and here posting history is irrelevant, because he/she was likely infected yesterday. phil likely wouldn't want to waste the infection on the vamp, so will and nathan would be the safest choice, but at the same time they are hi-profile choices, so he might have wanted to go for someone more incospicuous and likeable. and with all the defectionist talk that has been going on, someone who has been or has wanted to be a baddie might be a plus (yes iBlue, I am looking at you :)).

also, I have to say that i was quite surprised at abijnk being a wolf target. aside for the revenge reason (though well fitting for werewolves) i can't see why they'd kill her.
i actually thought she would be the absolutely least likely to go (even if not infected) because a) as a permanent infectee suspect her presence would attract lynching votes away from wolves b) as vamp hunter protector she could (unwittingly) protect wolves from vamp attack when they get activated.

Well random.org is determined to keep me honest and I think I'll (understandably) probably always be a suspect for infection for my openness about wanting to try on the wolf suit. Though I think that makes me such an obvious choice that I've been infection-free all this time. *grumps* I don't suspect Nathan as infected very much for the same reasons as me - too obvious. But who freakin' knows. :-S

I agree abijnk was an odd choice because she only had the one shot but still had the possibility of unwittingly protecting wolfkind but I reckon it was more of a fear killing. She's clever and might have, uh, fingered one of the wolves as a suspect. Really wish she was around right now. I might go Sherlocking through her posts for some ideas.

Too late now (freakin' time zones) but I'm glad to see ucfgrad93 has reached majority. He was a big suspect in my mind. Fingers crossed we got one.
 
Well random.org is determined to keep me honest and I think I'll (understandably) probably always be a suspect for infection for my openness about wanting to try on the wolf suit. Though I think that makes me such an obvious choice that I've been infection-free all this time. *grumps* I don't suspect Nathan as infected very much for the same reasons as me - too obvious. But who freakin' knows. :-S

I agree abijnk was an odd choice because she only had the one shot but still had the possibility of unwittingly protecting wolfkind but I reckon it was more of a fear killing. She's clever and might have, uh, fingered one of the wolves as a suspect. Really wish she was around right now. I might go Sherlocking through her posts for some ideas.

Too late now (freakin' time zones) but I'm glad to see ucfgrad93 has reached majority. He was a big suspect in my mind. Fingers crossed we got one.

it was more of a joke. You of course are a possibilities as the infectee, but pretty much like everyone else, with a slightly higher chance for willbro and nathan.


btw, we don't have a majority yet:

current votes (majority is 6):

Ucfgrad93: 5 (Stonyc, Nathan Muir, appleguy123, Don't panic, iBlue
Don't panic: 1 (Melrose)

yet to vote: 4 (mexbearpig, Renewed, ucfgrad93, willbro)
 
This place is ridiculous.
A week in here is like playing Russian Roulette.

I'm going.
"Well go! Go!"
All right! I will!

It better not be you, it'll be the last book you took.
He'll break you into seven pieces -
one for each day of the week.

You can't go home yet Snuffy.
You haven't found Buffy.
Oh I'm sorry Bert but I have to go home.
But it sure was fun pretending...



Is there anybody out there?

Is there anybody out there?

Is there anybody out there?

Is there anybody out there?
 
The silence is deafening.

I think that their silence (Mexbearpig and ucfgrad93) is particularly condemning and doesn't help their case as illustrated by voting patterns.

Melrose: Do you feel particularly strongly towards the Don't panic vote?
 
<Nixon voice>I am not a werewolf or a vamp</Nixon voice>

If you kill me, you will simply be one villager closer to losing.

But that is ok, I Don't Panic easily.
 
The silence is deafening.

I think that their silence (Mexbearpig and ucfgrad93) is particularly condemning and doesn't help their case as illustrated by voting patterns.

Melrose: Do you feel particularly strongly towards the Don't panic vote?

i can understand the game getting stuck because of a stalemate, but because of people simply not participating is kind of lame.
I realize people are busy and/or take a 'wait and see' stance, but a modicum of commitment is to be expected, or the game will drag on forever.
 
i can understand the game getting stuck because of a stalemate, but because of people simply not participating is kind of lame.
I realize people are busy and/or take a 'wait and see' stance, but a modicum of commitment is to be expected, or the game will drag on forever.

Yeah, when 40% of the players aren't participating it kind of kills the game.
 
Sorry guys. I'm not to vocal in this game because everyone posts such long posts that I get left behind fast. I didn't even know Nathanmuir was the sorcerer until the last page...but I know who I'm voting for. Stonyc. And btw I'll be dropping out the Advanced game. The simpler is much better for me.
 
current votes (majority is 6):

Ucfgrad93: 5 (Stonyc, Nathan Muir, appleguy123, Don't panic, iBlue)
Don't panic: 2 (Melrose, ucfgrad)
stonyc: 1 (mexbearpig)

yet to vote: 2 (renewed, willbro)

thanks for dropping in, mexbearpig
 
Like I said I am still lost in this game so I'm not going to vote and kill someone innocent.
It's your responsibility to vote, unless you can't make it in time.
serious question: should we continue this game?

there doesn't seem to be much more remaining interest in it, at least from a relevant part of the remaining players.

thoughts?

I think that we should continue. It will probably get more interesting after we lynch those that are apathetic( those I actually think that Renewed is hiding being a Vampire by feigning uninterest).
 
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