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why would i include myself in MY list of candidates? :confused:
i did check my PMs and i KNOW my role in this game.;)
Well you are obviously not the seer because I'm top on your baddie list.
And sorry stonyc. I was really convinced you were a wolf...oh well. Enjoy your baked goods!
 
I'm voting for Don't Panic. He said that he knew his "role" in the game, and that he saw the PM. The only unknown specials are bad, so that is my (rather weak) logic.

haha. i had wrote one of the long- winded, argument dense responses that melrose loves but erased because this argument is so lame that anyone buying it deserved to be wolferized (appleguy, i like you so don't take this personally but really? a villager is not a role? come on).

i can see where this is going so i hope to have time to get on a real computer and post some more useful thoughts before you lynch yet another villager.
if not, i refer you to my "infamous" list :)
night

don't panic

edit: allright, I am forced to switch to willbro as a pure and lame defensive move.
i think it's a mistake to go after the infectee (1/7, 14%), when we have still 5 people than could be the infectee OR one of the original baddies, (consider this, from my perspective, 3 of mexbearpig, renewed, melrose, appleguy, iblue are ww/vamp/goth: 60% chance! even higher (by 14%) if you consider that any of them could still be the infectee.
and IF you are one of the fives AND you are one of the two villagers among them, take out your name, put mine in and the percents are the same.

i hope we get lucky and willbro is the right choice, but it is still the wrong move.
 
haha. i had wrote one of the long- winded, argument dense responses that melrose loves but erased because this argument is so lame that anyone buying it deserved to be wolferized (appleguy, i like you so don't take this personally but really? a villager is not a role? come on).

i can see where this is going so i hope to have time to get on a real computer and post some more useful thoughts before you lynch yet another villager.
if not, i refer you to my "infamous" list :)
night

don't panic
If you can come up with a better argument, I'll change my vote. I'm not out to lynch villagers, I'm out to lynch baddies. We knew that Willbro was a villager, and there's no reason to assume that the wolves infected him. The wolves would probably want to infect a player with a power that they can use (seer, undertaker, hunter). In the beginning games, infecting a cleared villager may have been a good idea, but now that we know the tools of their trade, it is not.
 
If you can come up with a better argument, I'll change my vote. I'm not out to lynch villagers, I'm out to lynch baddies. We knew that Willbro was a villager, and there's no reason to assume that the wolves infected him. The wolves would probably want to infect a player with a power that they can use (seer, undertaker, hunter). In the beginning games, infecting a cleared villager may have been a good idea, but now that we know the tools of their trade, it is not.

look at the edit.
i agree that the chance of willbro being the infectee is not high, but if you go after the infectee, he is still one of the best choices (seer and hunter are gon, the undertaker probably too or he/she would have dropped some hints by now).
 
Votes

iBlue: 1 (willbro)
willbro: 4 (iBlue, Mexbearpig, NathanMuir, Don't panic)
Don't panic: 2 (Melrose, Appleguy123)
 
Well, we've reached a deadlock.

I think that it's safe to assume that Willbro won't vote for himself and his vote for iBlue is meaningless given that the vote most likely will not swing that way.

I'm guessing that Renewed is going to refuse vote again on the basis that he doesn't want to lynch a villager. :rolleyes:

As of right now the game is pretty much dead, correct?
 
Lets just remember that in previous games when I have voted for someone and nobody followed but rather voted to lynch me it was proven later on that I was correct in my assumptions.

Give me a few minutes and I'll try and find some links to some of the previous games in which I did that.

EDIT: Here is a link, I voted alone and was lynched because nobody believed me. It turned out that later on it was proven that the person I voted for was indeed a werewolf.
 
Well, we've reached a deadlock.

I think that it's safe to assume that Willbro won't vote for himself and his vote for iBlue is meaningless given that the vote most likely will not swing that way.

I'm guessing that Renewed is going to refuse vote again on the basis that he doesn't want to lynch a villager. :rolleyes:

As of right now the game is pretty much dead, correct?

I don't think that Renewed is anything bad, but his apathetic mood toward this game is, quite frankly, pissing me off. I'm lynching him because the longer we keep him alive, the longer it will take in the future to reach a majority.
 
^ I don't know about voting for people you don't suspect as bad at this point of the game. Though I agree it's frustrating and I actually think it's suspicious behaviour.

My point is only that it seems he's hiding something - why provide a list of suspects when you're listing everybody still in the game? It's like he points fingers at everyone else simply because they're not him. I can't be the only one who thinks that's fishy.

And we have had ones who, in efforts to be modest and honest, include themselves in suspect lists based on their voting record. jav2947 for one. In most than a few games he's been very good about including himself in is suspect lists if he fits the pattern. Don't panic just names everyone but himself. I find that odd is all..
You could well be right but the suspect list being the reason you think he's hiding something doesn't indicate anything to me. I've put up suspects lists that are only formed on my feelings from how they're acting and voting patterns. I am terrible with math so I can't figure it out by statistics but I've been right a time or two without that.

Well, we've reached a deadlock.

I think that it's safe to assume that Willbro won't vote for himself and his vote for iBlue is meaningless given that the vote most likely will not swing that way.

I'm guessing that Renewed is going to refuse vote again on the basis that he doesn't want to lynch a villager. :rolleyes:

As of right now the game is pretty much dead, correct?

This game is really starting to irritate me and I think this is the last game complex game I'll play. It's lost its fun. I'm completely fed up with the above mentioned apathy in this game. If you sign on to play, PLAY! I'm not sure if this indicates guilt or not but it's getting ridiculous at this point and I'm seriously considering changing my vote to renewed. I suspected him more than once in this game but he's been so quiet he keeps not coming up. Well now the quietness/apathy is the precise reason.

Lets just remember that in previous games when I have voted for someone and nobody followed but rather voted to lynch me it was proven later on that I was correct in my assumptions.

Give me a few minutes and I'll try and find some links to some of the previous games in which I did that.

EDIT: Here is a link, I voted alone and was lynched because nobody believed me. It turned out that later on it was proven that the person I voted for was indeed a werewolf.

Why are you so convinced it's me all of a sudden? Because ONE game narrative showed up not long after I signed on? :rolleyes: I know it's fairly useless to profess one's innocence in this game but I notice you haven't done much to thwart the accusations either.

I think I put myself at fairly big risk of being dinner if I switch my vote from you to someone else but I will switch it to renewed based on being fed up with his disinterest in participating in this game. I just don't want to take the risk of being your dinner tonight AND further stalling the game just yet. I'll keep an eye on this game today and if this idea takes a little momentum I'll do the switcharoo. Though if I die for switching my vote, I urge the survivors to look no further. ;)


edit: screw it. If you are an infected wolf, eating me for dinner at this point would be a really obvious move after this. So with fingers crossed I'm switching my vote for you to renewed. Maybe you should consider it as well. :eek: If you are innocent, your vote for me is misplaced.
 
You could well be right but the suspect list being the reason you think he's hiding something doesn't indicate anything to me. I've put up suspects lists that are only formed on my feelings from how they're acting and voting patterns. I am terrible with math so I can't figure it out by statistics but I've been right a time or two without that.

True.. I can see that to an extent. I still think it's weird though, given he hasn't done things like that in the past.

In the interest of moving the game along (geez, everybody :() I'll go with willbro - simply because he still has the majority. I'm saying I'm right, but at this point I'd rather lynch a villager than have a boring game.
 
if the momentum is switching to renewed, I am fine with it, because of the reasons i mentioned earlier (mainly better odds to catche the bad guys) i think that at them moment he is a better choice than willbro

I am also in favor of a switch of perception where not posting is more suspect than posting too much, because it forces people to be more active on the board (and yes, i do realize that it sound eminently self-serving, being by far the most prolific poster. In my defense, i can only say that in the previous three games , where i always was a plain villager, I was also suffering from posting diarrhea, putting out lists and so on :) )
 
Majority reached, Melrose sealed the deal. I am a villager. Werewolves win. [/end game]
 
So this must be the votes so far then right?:

Renewed: 4 (iBlue, appleguy123, Don't panic, willbro)
willbro: 3 (Mexbearpig, NathanMuir, Melrose)

Majority is 5

We are still waiting for a vote from renewed.

I remove my vote for iBlue, since I have a lack of evidence (this doesn't mean I still don't suspect her, it just looks like I won't be able to bring a majority to her), and change it to renewed.

I suspect that either renewed or iBlue is a werewolf. I also suspect Melrose, but with a lot of doubt since he has been a werewolf a lot already and chances of him being one again is low. I think that he is a vampire instead.
 
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