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anjinha died as a peaceful villager of Wolfsmouth.


anjinha: 5
Don't panic: 4

Moyank24: 1


It is now Day Five. Any orders?

Next deadline is Friday 10:00 AM EST.
 
I beg to differ on this point ;) but hey at least one wolf is hiding in melrose, fenris and Anjinha
if i were the WW, why wouldn't I just let it go on, it was going to be one of anjinha and comeagain, maybe moyank. I had no votes.
why would i draw all this attention on myself?

at this point it has to be one of melrose and fenris, or both.
i am incline to fenris because it is inconsistent with his type of play/analysis to go after the baroque scenario instead of the obvious one, and not to see the benefit of smoking out the WW
 
if i were the WW, why wouldn't I just let it go on, it was going to be one of anjinha and comeagain, maybe moyank. I had no votes.
why would i draw all this attention on myself?

at this point it has to be one of melrose and fenris, or both.
i am incline to fenris because it is inconsistent with his type of play/analysis to go after the baroque scenario instead of the obvious one, and not to see the benefit of smoking out the WW


Because you can be lynched one day without afecting the number of wolf, it's like a free new wolf ;)
But I don't think it was your play, I was just pointing out that it's not true that this would make zero sense ;)
 
Yeah, but I think that's our best shot anyway. At least Melrose and Fenris are doing a great job to crack DP, wich we always need ;)
That's my whole point. It's entirely possible he's pulling a bluff; he's done it before and he's a master of rhetoric; He's referenced posts that he hasn't made, the same as Ravenvii has made two posts now blatantly ignoring well-discussed facts.* If I had to guess now, I'd say DP, Ravenvii, and either Tomorrow or Fenris. Rick and Anjinha (EDIT: was typing this post during Twietee's narration) I really don't think would be so absent if they were guilty.

Yes, I have a role, obviously. Yes, I've campaigned for information-centric roles to be more influential; but I've crystal-clear since Day One about making known information, not simply blowing all our covers off for everyone to see and for the Wolves to All-You-Can-Eat-Salad Bar on.

*Plus, damn my stubbornness, I really hate being backed into a corner. :p
alright, then.

i am the die-hard.
tomorrow can confirm this.
i cannot be lynched today

Obviously. But it still proves nothing.

i am incline to fenris because it is inconsistent with his type of play/analysis to go after the baroque scenario instead of the obvious one, and not to see the benefit of smoking out the WW

...now you're calling me stupid. :(
 
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Because you can be lynched one day without afecting the number of wolf, it's like a free new wolf ;)
But I don't think it was your play, I was just pointing out that it's not true that this would make zero sense ;)

yes, but that would still hold true without the all-out.
I would just wait it out, at some point you guys become suspicious, try to lynch me, it fails. the next day might be too late.
here i would have risked to advance everything by one day for no great gain except your identity.
but the WW have the seer so it might not have stayed secret for long anyway.
 
Ok unless I'm pretty lucky with the guard target later this evening we will be 9 players tomorrow.

3 of them are wolfs, one of them infected, so anyone.

Pretty sure too that the new seer is between Melrose and Fenris.

But the odds are not in our favor, we need to catch two wolfs in two day to have a good chance.
 
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That's my whole point. It's entirely possible he's pulling a bluff; he's done it before and he's a master of rhetoric. Plus, damn my stubbornness, I really hate being backed into a corner.

Yes, I have a role, obviously. Yes, I've campaigned for information-centric roles to be more influential; but I've crystal-clear since Day One about making known information, not simply blowing all our covers off for everyone to see and for the Wolves to All-You-Can-Eat-Salad Bar on.

i know. i feared you either would be on board or oppose it all the way ;)
it is the reason you are a tiny bit minimally less suspicious to me than fenris.

but tell me, how does protecting your role now help the village?
they can scan you tonight and they will know.
they can just eat you if they think they have a role interesting to them, which by the way you do not have, as all the remaining roles are of very little threat to the wolves
 
if nobody lied:

techgod*: undertaker
tomorrow*: seer, then soother, now no powers
sythas*: guard
moyank*: Thug
comeagain*: Executioner

dontpanic**: die-hard

rick: scavenger, then hunter, power spent
ravenvii: leech, now soother, power spent

Melrose: ?
fenris: ?

*= village core or exclusive, cannot be alpha or kami, could be infected
**= cleared by tomorrow, cannot be alpha or kami (if tomorrow is right), could be infected

If people were truthful with their roles, two of Fenris, Melrose, Ravenvii and Rick must be wolves.
that is also my order of suspicion
 
@Don't panic

Do you think we may have had a better chance to find a wolf had you told us sooner? So many votes wasted on you with no shot of lynching.

We may have been able to pick on one of the other candidates instead, and possibly get lucky. Especially at the end where it was clear anjinha wasn't going to show up.
 
Morning or is it evening!? Either way I'm tired - intended to be here before deadline - staying up till past 2AM and trying to get up early don't work well.

@Don't panic Die-Hard ehh? thats very bad for us if you are infected. In fact at this point I'm not sure we can win if you are - it would take us 4 days to lynch the remaining 3 wolves (assuming infection in play) during which you have all the information about roles to choose to eat. We'd have to pick correctly every lynching.

I'm re-reading your explanations - and I admit the new roles are taking me some getting used to. I think I overestimated the potential of the Meddler which makes you a little less suspicious - you still could have been infected after scans (which is still a possibility) or lucked out and infected the Seer (unlikely but possible). I still don't see any explanation for why you asked for public use of a private power? I know blocker didn't stop Pluto.

And IMO letting the wolves know who the Guard and the Thug are was bad for the village. If we're had less wolves left probably worthwhile - at this point I don't think so.
 
@Don't panic

Do you think we may have had a better chance to find a wolf had you told us sooner? So many votes wasted on you with no shot of lynching.

We may have been able to pick on one of the other candidates instead, and possibly get lucky. Especially at the end where it was clear anjinha wasn't going to show up.


i guess that is possible, but the whole idea was based on leaving as little a window as possible to the WW to hide.

so if now fenris tells us he is the judge and melrose the collapser, for example, they could have just cherry picked form the open roles without fear of being proven wrong.
or if only one of them is a wolf, he would have waited to be last and picked a safe role.

if everyone had come out last night, i would have as well and then either one of the WW would have been caught in the lie, or we would have had time to think things over.

whether they are WW or not, my opinion that fenris and melrose dragging it out only helped the WW.
 
whether they are WW or not, my opinion that fenris and melrose dragging it out only helped the WW.

The bulk of the last few pages of delay was you insisting that you and Tomorrow are innocent and then burying it in finger pointing. If the shoe were on another villager, you'd be all over them like a cheap suit.

Just saying... :p


*Hey, looks like we're outta Sno-Cones!"
 
whether they are WW or not, my opinion that fenris and melrose dragging it out only helped the WW.
It probably made little difference in the end. If anjihna was the only who hadn't claimed a role and hadn't said anything who would we have ended up lynching? I think all we ended up achieving was lynching an inactive player - what ever happened to that lost in the woods rule?!

Edit - sorry tired - not all as we also gave the wolves a lot of useful information.
 
The bulk of the last few pages of delay was you insisting that you and Tomorrow are innocent and then burying it in finger pointing. If the shoe were on another villager, you'd be all over them like a cheap suit.

no,
the bulk of the last few pages was fenris (and to a lesser extent you) pointing fingers at me and tomorrow for being in cahoots in a far fetched scenario of increasing complexity, and me wasting time to debunk it.

if you and fenris had come out with your role, there would be no pages about that and the village would likely be ina better position right now, notwithstanding anjinha infuriating absence
 
It probably made little difference in the end. If anjihna was the only who hadn't claimed a role and hadn't said anything who would we have ended up lynching? I think all we ended up achieving was lynching an inactive player - what ever happened to that lost in the woods rule?!

Edit - sorry tired - not all as we also gave the wolves a lot of useful information.

that would depend on what role would you and/or melrose have claimed.
either you could have claimed the die-hard, which would have exposed you for the wolf, or the first speaking could have claimed the role the second speaking really has (if you are not both wolves)

and even if you had lucked out into one of the open spots, we would have had time this morning to possibly engineer a switch from anjinha to someone else, once it was clear she was MIA.

so no, it didn't make 'little' difference. it made quite a big difference in favor of the wolves.
 
that would depend on what role would you and/or melrose have claimed.
either you could have claimed the die-hard, which would have exposed you for the wolf, or the first speaking could have claimed the role the second speaking really has (if you are not both wolves)

and even if you had lucked out into one of the open spots, we would have had time this morning to possibly engineer a switch from anjinha to someone else, once it was clear she was MIA.

so no, it didn't make 'little' difference. it made quite a big difference in favor of the wolves.

I do think we would lynched Anjinha (unless Lost in the woods). But if Melrose and Fenris are villagers, they are greatly helping the ww.
 
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