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[WW] MRville VI: GAME OVER - VILLAGERS WIN

Voting tally:

philbeeney: 1 (Cboss)
Don't panic: 1 (Rodimus Prime)
NathanMuir: 2 (philbeeney, jav6454)
jav6454: 1 (NathanMuir)
Mexbearpig: 1 (Don't panic)
 
Whilst I'm not fully convinced of NathanMuir, I'm more convinced of him than Don't Panic. My reasoning for voting for him is rather simple, what we've been doing so far hasn't been working at all. The wolves usually do an excellent job of evading suspicion, so I would imagine that would put them as posting a lot but acting as though they are trying to do good for the village or staying a bit more in the background.

NathanMuir has a lot of suspicion right now and is being very vocal about being the Undertaker, that makes me doubt that he is a wolf, slightly, because wolves wouldn't want to create a big fuss about themselves. Don't Panic, on the other hand is being very vocal and is acting as an advocate for the village. This would make one tend to believe that they are good and thus evade suspicion. I think that by now the wolves have realized that this is what they want to do, either stay in the background or try to act as an advocate for the village so they don't arouse suspicion. With this in mind, I'm going to cast a vote for Don't Panic.
 
Ok, so let's all look together at where we currently stand.

Jav's prayer confirmed for us that we have a vamp/ww among the following list of players:

1: iBookG4user
2: stonyc (killed by WW's)
3: philbeeney
4: appleguy123 - self admitted goth (lynched)
5: Don't panic
6: Nathanmuir - self admitted undertaker
7: iBlue (lynched)

If we are to believe Nathanmuir and I haven't yet heard a good reason not to believe him, then we know either philbeeney, Don't panic, or iBookG4user are a bad guy. None of them have yet to reveal a role or provide any defense beyond, "I'm not a bad guy."

As for voting:

philbeeney: 1 (Cboss)
Don't panic: 2 (Rodimus Prime,iBookG4user)
NathanMuir: 2 (philbeeney, jav6454)
jav6454: 1 (NathanMuir)
Mexbearpig: 1 (Don't panic)

left to vote (mscriv,Mexbearpig)

Jav who I'm not sure is still safe or not (when did the protection end?) is voting for Nathanmuir in some kind of effort to force him to reveal other information. Philbeeney is joining him in this effort. To me these both seem like wasted votes. In turn Nathan is voting for Jav in retaliation under the hopes that jav has been infected. This also seems like a wasted vote. I agee mexbearpig has been quiet and I do find it odd that he is pushing Nathan to tell him if he has scanned a goth, but Don't panic, this also seems like an ill-advised vote to me.

I can sort of give philbeeney and Don't panic a pass in that they are trying to get peple to vote for others as opposed to voting for them, but why are we not working together to focus on the obvious list of suspects we have. Based on what we know and what seems credible from Nathanmuir (undertaker) then we know for sure there is a bad guy among iBookG4user, philbeeney, and Don't panic. Can we all agree that we should be focusing on one of these three?

I'm just afraid a lot of arguing and posturing is distracting us from working together. This is where we really need the NW's help, but I understand that they can not reveal themselves for fear of infection. However, you can vote together or at least strategize together so we don't waste this vote.

Think about it everyone, there are only 9 of us left and from what we know there's 2 WWs, a vamp, and a goth still out there. Throw the infection in the mix and numbers are possibly 5 baddies to 4 good guys. Additionally, the kamikazi wolf can take someone with them. Things don't look good. :(

Let's make this vote count.
 
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mscriv said:
Ok, so let's all look together at where we currently stand.

Jav's prayer confirmed for us that we have a vamp/ww among the following list of players:

1: iBookG4user
2: stonyc (killed by WW's)
3: philbeeney
4: appleguy123 - self admitted goth (lynched)
5: Don't panic
6: Nathanmuir - self admitted undertaker
7: iBlue (lynched)

If we are to believe Nathanmuir and I haven't yet heard a good reason not to believe him, then we know either philbeeney, Don't panic, or iBookG4user are a bad guy. None of them have yet to reveal a role or provide any defense beyond, "I'm not a bad guy."

As for voting:

philbeeney: 1 (Cboss)
Don't panic: 2 (Rodimus Prime,iBookG4user)
NathanMuir: 2 (philbeeney, jav6454)
jav6454: 1 (NathanMuir)
Mexbearpig: 1 (Don't panic)

left to vote (mscriv,Mexbearpig)

Jav who I'm not sure is still safe or not (when did the protection end?) is voting for Nathanmuir in some kind of effort to force him to reveal other information. Philbeeney is joining him in this effort. To me these both seem like wasted votes. In turn Nathan is voting for Jav in retaliation under the hopes that jav has been infected. This also seems like a wasted vote. I agee mexbearpig has been quiet and I do find it odd that he is pushing Nathan to tell him if he has scanned a goth, but Don't panic, this also seems like an ill-advised vote to me.

I can sort of give philbeeney and Don't panic a pass in that they are trying to get peple to vote for others as opposed to voting for them, but why are we not working together to focus on the obvious list of suspects we have. Based on what we know and what seems credible from Nathanmuir (undertaker) then we know for sure there is a bad guy among iBookG4user, philbeeney, and Don't panic. Can we all agree that we should be focusing on one of these three?

I'm just afraid a lot of arguing and posturing is distracting us from working together. This is where we really need the NW's help, but I understand that they can not reveal themselves for fear of infection. However, you can vote together or at least strategize together so we don't waste this vote.

Think about it everyone, there are only 9 of us left and from what we know there's 2 WWs, a vamp, and a goth stil out there. Throw the infection in the mix and numbers are 5 baddies to 4 good guys. Things don't look good. :(

Let's make this vote count.
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I'd be more than happy to focus on one of those three. Philbeeney would be fourth on my list, and first out of those three, as candidates for one of the wolfs.
 
jav6454 said:
We can make it count if Nathan says what chrmjenkins was. That's all I need.
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Look jav, you're not exactly proving to be trustworthy at this point. You've led the charge against an innocent and you're claiming to know how to solve the puzzle without sharing with any of us the puzzle pieces you claim to know. Instead of just pushing Nathan to give up the info, how about you explain why that one piece of information is so important?

It might also go a long way toward proving trust if you withdraw your vote for him or possibly move it to one of the potential big three: iBook, phil, or Don't.
 
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mscriv said:
Look jav, you're not exactly proving to be trustworthy at this point. You've led the charge against an innocent and you're claiming to know how to solve the puzzle without sharing with any of us the puzzle pieces you claim to know. Instead of just pushing Nathan to give up the info, how about you explain why that one piece of information is so important?

It might also go a long way toward proving trust if you withdraw your vote for him or possibly move it to one of the potential big three: iBook, phil, or Don't.
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Rodimus Prime said:
I am still wondering why you are so dead set on chrmjenkin?
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I'll answer these in two words. Huge Hunch. Don't trust me if you can't, but I seriously think chrmjenkins role has a crucial effect on the game loads.

It's a small crumb of info I am asking.
 
quick iphone post excuse my gibberish :)

nice reasoned post as usual mscriv.

i think that the only flaw is that to focus on the "big 3" you might losing sight of the "mean 2",which are the really dangerous ones.

i am going to put out my own thpught because i awfully close to be lynched and i might not have time to log on again.
(and i am sure mexbear will vote for me in slfdefense)
i ust hope that this doesn't help the wolves more than help the village
i completely turst nathan in that he is the undertker, and i have defended his not revealing the other 2 earlier on as a leverage option. still with him.
i kind of understand where jav's going with the chris obsession, but it's not worth it. let it go. the only real risk with nathan is that if he is infecte now , the wolfies cn use the last two reveals to 'cover' themselves. however i think there is a good chance the infection has been attempted already (see below)
philbeeney is part of the NW and the reason to get him would be pre-emptive, because of the obvious risks associated to infection of the NW. i am relly surprised it didnt happen yet, and i am thinking the reason is that infection was either already used on spmeone else and (hopefully) wasted.
ibookg4 is the vamp, bus since he is inactive he is a relative risk. one goth is gpne, but the other is still possibky out.
the danger are from the wolves and i think they are both in the bottom part.
my max suspicion was on mexbearpig, which is the reason i voted for him, i don't think it's wasted, but i am not 100% sure.
i had mny doubt on rodimus, but some of his more recent posts have turned me a bit back in his favor, even if he's voting to murder me.
cboss is my other wolfi candidate at htis point, and then there is you mscriv.
you have been your usual self, but if i am right, your call to focus on the 'top big 3' would give the wolf free reins to reach a deadly majority.
did i forget anyone?
so i would still push for mex, but i might move my vote to someone else in order to save myself if i manage to login later on., because i think i should remain around, particularly for the endgame. i'd hope it's not nathan

so much for the quick post :D
 
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Deadline in 3 hours I think assuming CST
Current vote
philbeeney: 1 (Cboss)
Don't panic: 3 (Rodimus Prime,iBookG4user,philbeeney)
NathanMuir: 1 (, jav6454)
jav6454: 1 (NathanMuir)
Mexbearpig: 1 (Don't panic)


left to vote (mscriv,Mexbearpig)
 
philbeeney said:
2 hours. ravenvii's post was 12:30am EST on Monday morning. Actually 1 hour and 40 minutes from this post.

I expect a flurry of posts to commence shortly before the deadline arrives.
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yeah you are right. I went back look at it. He is on EST so it is a 1 hour 15 min from now.

It could be an interesting last hour.
 
Doesn't the post say 12:30 on Wednesday? Meaning we have another whole day?

Unless we stitched to the 48 hour day.
 
Cboss said:
Doesn't the post say 12:30 on Wednesday? Meaning we have another whole day?

Unless we stitched to the 48 hour day.
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Wow, you're pretty switched on for a newbie especially as you are correct. Are you a vampire? They're pretty good with numbers.

It would appear Rodimus and myself have lost a complete day somewhere. Damn you Daylight Savings. ** shakes fist in the air ** :eek:
 
philbeeney said:
Wow, you're pretty switched on for a newbie especially as you are correct. Seems Rodimus and myself have lost a complete day somewhere. Damn you Daylight Savings. :eek:
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I have this big Java project for class I have been working on. I blame that for being of a day LOL.
 
mscriv said:
Look jav, you're not exactly proving to be trustworthy at this point. You've led the charge against an innocent and you're claiming to know how to solve the puzzle without sharing with any of us the puzzle pieces you claim to know. Instead of just pushing Nathan to give up the info, how about you explain why that one piece of information is so important?

It might also go a long way toward proving trust if you withdraw your vote for him or possibly move it to one of the potential big three: iBook, phil, or Don't.
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Out of the Test, into this debate. Basically, the pieces of the puzzle I have can't be shown right now; not without affecting me (ie me killed by wolves). It would more advantageous for the wolves to know what is still not out there, than know what chrmjenkins was. The wolves can only hide with what they know is killed but unknown to us... which they will guess since we know since stonyc and iBlue's roles are still in the air; they can pretty much guess those two. If they try to pull a fast one, Nathan will know about it ASAP. However, knowing chrmjenkins role will most likely lead me to believe in Nathan 100% (versus 60%) and take his word without question for the time being.

That is why I know that if know chrmjenkins role the wolves won't have any upper hand still. Posted from iPhone
 
jav6454 said:
Out of the Test, into this debate. Basically, the pieces of the puzzle I have can't be shown right now; not without affecting me (ie me killed by wolves). It would more advantageous for the wolves to know what is still not out there, than know what chrmjenkins was. The wolves can only hide with what they know is killed but unknown to us... which they will guess since we know since stonyc and iBlue's roles are still in the air; they can pretty much guess those two. If they try to pull a fast one, Nathan will know about it ASAP. However, knowing chrmjenkins role will most likely lead me to believe in Nathan 100% (versus 60%) and take his word without question for the time being.

That is why I know that if know chrmjenkins role the wolves won't have any upper hand still. Posted from iPhone
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You were/ are the priest. You are not privy to any private information. If you've been recruited into the NW you still wouldn't be privy to any private information, except you would know the idenities of three good guys. However, given the number of people still alive, you wouldn't be able to effectively narrow down the list of possible wolves/ vamps.

This just makes me more sure of the fact that you've been infected.

Posted from my iPhone.
 
NathanMuir said:
You were/ are the priest. You are not privy to any private information. If you've been recruited into the NW you still wouldn't be privy to any private information, except you would know the idenities of three good guys. However, given the number of people still alive, you wouldn't be able to effectively narrow down the list of possible wolves/ vamps.

This just makes me more sure of the fact that you've been infected.

Posted from my iPhone.
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You see, there are certain things I am able to do without having to privy. Just like reasoning out who you've scanned to find your targets is one. Using standard probability theorems and Gaussian distributions and other things along the lines is another.

I happen to have used the second one for this. So, if you please, Mr "undertaker", the role?
 
jav6454 said:
You see, there are certain things I am able to do without having to privy. Just like reasoning out who you've scanned to find your targets is one. Using standard probability theorems and Gaussian distributions and other things along the lines is another.

I happen to have used the second one for this. So, if you please, Mr "undertaker", the role?
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Sorry, your track record isn't that great when it comes to figuring out the baddies.

I still think you're infected thus I'm still not going to give away that information for no good reason.

Posted from my iPhone.
 


Poor ol lbro has been doing target practice with his new soft plastic bow and arrow set. He accidentally hit appleguy123 in the buttcheek with the real set and it caused a mighty upset. Black lipstick and guyliner went everywhere!

Stonyc challenged me to a bowling game. I hesitated because he kept making gestures like this but dios mio, I took my chances. We discovered that our hand-eye coordination wasn't what it used to be but that creep can roll! It's true, nobody ****s with the Jesus.

Jav6454 keeps banging on our Zombie house door demanding to know everyone's pre-death roles and chrmjenkins wisely convinced me not to bash his skull in for brains because we'd probably still be hungry.


This message brought to you today by 1313 Zombiehouse lane and the letter V.
 
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so, i showed up last night at 1313 zombihouse lane.
Must have been around 1 am.
i was starving.
I knock on the door, and chrmjnkins shows up.
"what are you doing here?"
"I thought i'd join in a little early"
"you can't, if you haven't noticed, we are not quite 'alive' anymore, while you seem to be. not that you are doing particularly good use of your time, wasting mine..."
"i know, I know, but it's a done deal. I am an official inductee. Deadline is gone"
"No it is not you airhead. it's toooo-mooor-rooow .
Jeesh. I'd eat your brains if there were any"

Door slams.
"who was there?"
"some guy with some encyclopedia..."
"buggers. some people have no shame..."

I didn't even get a cookie.



so i discovered i have an extra day (yay! :))
i'll come back later whit some game-related thoughts on the upcoming lynching.
 
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