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[WW] MRville VI: GAME OVER - VILLAGERS WIN

iblue said:


poor ol lbro has been doing target practice with his new soft plastic bow and arrow set. He accidentally hit appleguy123 in the buttcheek with the real set and it caused a mighty upset. Black lipstick and guyliner went everywhere!

stonyc challenged me to a bowling game. I hesitated because he kept making gestures like this but dios mio, i took my chances. We discovered that our hand-eye coordination wasn't what it used to be but that creep can roll! It's true, nobody ****s with the jesus.

jav6454 keeps banging on our zombie house door demanding to know everyone's pre-death roles and chrmjenkins wisely convinced me not to bash his skull in for brains because we'd probably still be hungry.


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lol.
 
Rodimus Prime said:
we came to it during iBlue. This dead lock with 2 no votes right now.
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You can't really call it a dead lock due to the two no votes. The majority needed is 5 votes and the highest total for one person at this time is 2 votes. Even if those of us who haven't voted cast a vote for that person it would only bring the total to 4 votes and still be short of the majority needed to lynch.

In other words... get back jack and don't blame my no vote for the current holding pattern we are in. ;)
 
jav6454 said:
You see, there are certain things I am able to do without having to privy. Just like reasoning out who you've scanned to find your targets is one. Using standard probability theorems and Gaussian distributions and other things along the lines is another.

I happen to have used the second one for this. So, if you please, Mr "undertaker", the role?
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LOL, you are cracking me up jav :D

jav, you insistence with chris's role doesn't make too much sense to me.
I might be wrong, but the only reasonable deduction to be drawn from your arguments is that you have been recruited to the NW and chris was part of it, so if nathan confirms it, this would validate nathan's claim in your eyes.

except, if this is the case, the same deductions I made nathan could have made (if he wasn't what he claims he is), and everyone else -including the wolves- could have made. so even if Nathan isn't the undertaker (but I have no reason to doubt his word on this) he could just feed you the info you look for, but it wouldn't prove or disprove too much about his role.
One problem with nathans not divulging the infos about the dead is that he is at serious risk to be killed tonight, especially if the hunter is not there to protect him. in that case the info would be lost, with the leverage on the wolves.
so coming tonight he has to decide wether to take a risk or not and spill the beans on the roles, or some of the roles, depending what he thinks would help the village most.

Then there is the question of infection.
the most powerful weapon of the wolves.
i think this round, because of the different rules and the many specials, it would have made sense for the wolves to use infection early.
thus it might have occurred already.
the best course of action for the wolves would be obviously to take down the NW.
as i mentioned before, i strongly believe philbeeney is in the NW (or he is a baddie), and from your (somewhat reckless) posts, you are now part of it too. Yet, you are both still alive, so either I am wrong (always a likely possibility :)), or they decided not to go for the NW (but why not?), or they already used their infection (or tried to) on someone else. Which is my opinion.
i also think there is a good chance that the infection failed (but that might be a tad optimistic).
If not, a good candidate would be obviously nathan (as infectee or already infected) because it would allow the wolves to control the last two reveals (three with stonyc tomorrow) to their own best interest. plus voting is becoming tight so an extra vote in control would be good.

gotta run, will be hopefully back before deadline. meanwhile i switch my vote to philbeeney.
he is not my top candidate (mex still is) and even in the 'big three' i fear ibookg4 more, but among people with one vote he is the most suspicious one (for reasons of danger to the NW or baddiness, see my previous post dedicated to him, all those reasons still hold), in the hope enough of you come to your senses and don't kill me

edit: why is it deadlocked? i thought i was basically dead with majority?
 
mscriv said:
You can't really call it a dead lock due to the two no votes. The majority needed is 5 votes and the highest total for one person at this time is 2 votes. Even if those of us who haven't voted cast a vote for that person it would only bring the total to 4 votes and still be short of the majority needed to lynch.

In other words... get back jack and don't blame my no vote for the current holding pattern we are in. ;)
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But that proves my point. We are in a dead lock and have 2 no votes. Even if you all no votes vote we still would be in a dead lock.
It is not the no votes fault that we are in a dead lock but just one of multiple factors.
 
Don't panic said:
meanwhile i switch my vote to philbeeney.
he is not my top candidate (mex still is) and even in the 'big three' i fear ibookg4 more, but among people with one vote he is the most suspicious one (for reasons of danger to the NW or baddiness, see my previous post dedicated to him, all those reasons still hold), in the hope enough of you come to your senses and don't kill me
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So why don't you vote for mexbearpig then? :confused:
 
philbeeney said:
So why don't you vote for mexbearpig then? :confused:
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i did and still would if anyone would follow, but apparently no one else does, so he would remain with one vote and would not be close to be lynched at this round.
same with ibookg4.Of the ones who already have votes you are the one who is more likely to be a baddie, and if you are not and are a NW as i suspect, it might still be a good idea because of the risk of infection and wipeout of the NW.

but if you are willing to switch to mex, or ibookg4, i would much prefer to vote for them.
 
Deadline in 2 hours I believe (I have the day right this time LOL)
Current vote
philbeeney: 2 (Cboss,Don't panic))
Don't panic: 3 (Rodimus Prime,iBookG4user,philbeeney)
NathanMuir: 1 (, jav6454)
jav6454: 1 (NathanMuir)

Mex and Mcriv still have not voted.
 
Well I have had some time to think about and in some ways I agree with Don't Panic logic. Other way I am not 100% sure if he just not trying to cover as attention is finally turning towards him.

I honestly believe NathenMuir about him being the Undertaker and still a little confused on why Jav is targeting him so hard. Hell I could think of reason why the wolves would of wanted to infect Jav. Big time after he was found out he was the priest or if they just tried to get lucky on the first day.

As for people among the top philbeeney seems to be getting a lot of attention and screaming lately which seems odd to me.

I am not sure if I am willing to switch my vote but philbeeney is a close number 2 right now for me for the ones among the top. NathenMuir being the lowest.
 
Rodimus Prime said:
Deadline in 2 hours I believe (I have the day right this time LOL)
Current vote
philbeeney: 2 (Cboss,Don't panic))
Don't panic: 3 (Rodimus Prime,iBookG4user,philbeeney)
NathanMuir: 1 (, jav6454)
jav6454: 1 (NathanMuir)

Mex and Mcriv still have not voted.
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yes i think you got everything right.
i don't know why they were talking a bout deadlock.
more like deadpanic very soon :mad::):D

no one seems to be willing to change their votes, but I think the villagers are making a big mistake here and if we don't get a wolf soon the village will be doomed. with or without my services.

the wolfs on the other hand are playing very smartly with a set of rules that contrary to what some believe, would favor the village greatly if we exploit them properly.

which is to do what stonyc suggested at some point: everybody comes public.
the wolf have to pick who to hide behind, but they can't pick the NW, the hunters, the sorcerer because they would be immediately contradicted by the real ones, who have special abilities to prove their role, so they'd have to hide behind the seer (since the undertaker is already public). that's why the seer should be the first to come out, and declare the scans, so that they can be verified by the other people coming out.
the only variable is the infection, since the alpha wolf can pick who to infect (assuming the infection wasn't used -and possibly wasted- already). but in this situation if he infects the NW and kills them, then the wolves can't hide anymore. if he infects another one, it should come to the point where there are 3-4 villager and the wolf, so the numbers favor the village.
plus consider that unless activated the vamp and the goths (if any remain, which is doubtful) are to all means regular villagers and they would vote with them against the wolves.


edit: rodimus, what makes you not suspect of ibookg4? i haven't voted for him for defensive reasons, since phil has one vote, but since now mexbearpig voted for ibookg4, i would be fine with switching to him if you and or phil follow suit.
 
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Official Voting Record:

philbeeney: 2 (Cboss, Don't panic)
Don't panic: 3 (Rodimus Prime, iBookG4user, philbeeney)
NathanMuir: 1 (jav6454)
jav6454: 1 (NathanMuir)
iBookG4user: 1 (Mexbearpig)

No votes: mscriv

As the sun begun to set, the mob assembled around the gallows, upon which Don't panic stood, the noose smug around his neck. Rodimus Prime stood by the lever. "Any last words?"

"Nah, I accept my fate. The remaining goth in the crowd, I release you from your duty. Find the wolves and avenge the dead!"

"Vampire? Time to die, bloodsucker," Rodimus Prime said as someone in the crowd tossed him a stake. "Just in case."

He pulls the lever and Don't panic dropped. Suddenly, fangs sprouted from Don't panic's lips and he let out a hiss, which was abruptly interrupted by a stake in the heart.

Don't panic was a vampire. The vampiric threat has been eliminated.

It is now NIGHT - Specials, send in those PMs by 6 PM tomorrow.
 
I though I was on the right track.
Got one of those evil baddies. Now it is just time to find the wolves.
 
I thought so, Don't panic seemed the most likely of those remaining in the top 7 to be a baddie. Right now I don't suspect Philbeeney to be a baddie very much and NathanMuir seems to me to be the Undertaker. I don't really have any reason to doubt him as of yet.
 
Wow, great job everyone. We really needed to get a bad guy with that vote and we did. I agree with Rodimus, it's time to find the wolves now. Unlike iBook, I do still have doubts about philbeeney and with Jav pulling another swing and a miss he just might be infected like Nathanmuir is saying. Hmmm... what to do now???
 
jav6454 said:
I am still gunning for Nathan. Until he tells me what chrmjenkins was.
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That's fine. All the more reason to believe you've been infected.

You know, it's curious that you're the only one who wants this information so badly.

But then again, with all your theorems and such, you must be the only one who can understand this utterly vital piece of information... :rolleyes:
 
Here's where we are with who's left in the game:

  • iBookG4user - has been voted for twice (once on day 1), reportedly suspected by some to be a baddie
  • philbeeney - has been voted for several times, suspected by many to be a baddie
  • Cboss - has been voted for once (day 1), not suspected by anyone and has shown value in voting against a baddie
  • mexbearpig - has been voted for a couple of times, kinda quiet this game, suspected by Don't panic to be a baddie
  • mscriv - has never been voted for, highly valued for my wit, intellect, and charm :p
  • Nathanmuir - has been voted for several times, self proclaimed undertaker who some fear has been infected
  • Rodimus Prime - has been voted for a few times (day 1 mostly), but has shown good analysis as to what is going on and has successfully voted to take out a baddie on two occasions
  • Jav6454 - has been voted for once, revealed sorcerer who's prayer helped narrow down the list of baddies, but he is feared to be infected by some and has led the charge against an innocent with secret theories that he won't reveal to anyone

I've not made up my mind, but I think this shows we do have some that are more suspicious then others (philbeeney, jav, and possibly iBook) and that this belief is held by many in the group.

With the lynching of Don't panic you could argue that we found the baddie that Jav's prayer identified, but with it being a yes or no question there could be multiple baddies in the top seven players. Therefore I'm not clearing suspects from that part of the list.
 
NathanMuir said:
That's fine. All the more reason to believe you've been infected.

You know, it's curious that you're the only one who wants this information so badly.

But then again, with all your theorems and such, you must be the only one who can understand this utterly vital piece of information... :rolleyes:
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See, if I tell you what I know and how I know it, I put in danger the village. :rolleyes:
 
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jav6454 said:
Hmm.. you see young padawan, if you what I know and how I know it, I tell, in danger, would I put the village. Yes, hmmm.
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I am in awe by your great wisdom oh Jav6454. I humbly ask that you take me on as your apprentice and teach me the power of "using standard probability theorems and Gaussian distributions and other things" :D ;)
 
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