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[WW] - The Game of Thrones - GAME OVER - LOYALS WIN
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Sadly, I belong to the 99%.
And yea, it would be extremely stupid to admit that openly, so let's move on please.
I think this is true. We're likely to lose the Vulture tonight, so they'd be no one to protect SS if we wait until tomorrow to revive her. Reviving her it then becomes a guessing game between the Vulture and the traitors as to who to protect/kill.
duh! I completely missed that part. Feeling really stupid. My excuse is I'm kinda sick right now.
So parts of what I wrote is pure speculative;. Forcing the Traitors into a 50/50 guessing game is probably the best we can do. Worst outcome are two additional scans and woodNufc and ss dead within two nights though. with SilentPanda and our Maester revealed and also me being a viable target. Doesn't sound too good.
But nevertheless we should discuss/vote imho, since we don't even know if our Maester is still alive.
So parts of what I wrote is pure speculative;. Forcing the Traitors into a 50/50 guessing game is probably the best we can do. Worst outcome are two additional scans and woodNufc and ss dead within two nights though. with SilentPanda and our Maester revealed and also me being a viable target. Doesn't sound too good.
But nevertheless we should discuss/vote imho, since we don't even know if our Maester is still alive.
rick snagwell - This is seriously based on nothing except that he voted between the time I said I was going to post names and the time I posted names. I haven't a clue who the traitors are.
I have a question about the redman.
If Jav was a traitor, and lynched on day one, why was he not reanimated and allowed to kill someone? The redman still had to be alive, and there was no guard protection.
edit: it would have to mean that Jav was the redman no?
If Jav was a traitor, and lynched on day one, why was he not reanimated and allowed to kill someone? The redman still had to be alive, and there was no guard protection.
edit: it would have to mean that Jav was the redman no?
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The red man can't resurrect until the traitors try to kill the red man some night. Since that hasn't happened yet, they can't resurrect yet.
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/18062796/
Another question, were you able to figure out that Moyank and Raven were scanned because the vulture protected himself?
Oh, was I the traitor!? I don't know, but come now... I am really the traitor, or are you the traitors by rebelling against the Iron Throne.... let the left over peasants decide. In the mean time I need much praise... so please keep praising me! Your one and only ruler, Jav Targaryen!!!
A few clarifications before deciding if we should have the maestro bring SS back (if the maestro is still alive) - we know she scanned raven and me before she died. Do we know who she scanned the night she died?
Also, it doesn't say it in the OP, but can we assume that if the maestro does bring her back, the maestro will then be outed? It's always been that way, but I'm just checking.
I'm trying to figure out if it's even worth wasting the power to bring her back for what would probably be knowing the result of 1 scan. And either way, is there anyone better down the line who can be more helpful if they're brought back? One thing about the power is that the person, whatever their role, is usually only good for one day anyway.
On one hand, having a few good guys outed means that the bad guys know who to pick off. On the other, they can only pick off one at a time, so it
helps narrow down the list a bit when trying to vote off bad guys.
I'm leaning toward being in favor of bringing her back - if only to have them waste a kill to off her again. That gives us all another day of gathering intel.
Also, it doesn't say it in the OP, but can we assume that if the maestro does bring her back, the maestro will then be outed? It's always been that way, but I'm just checking.
I'm trying to figure out if it's even worth wasting the power to bring her back for what would probably be knowing the result of 1 scan. And either way, is there anyone better down the line who can be more helpful if they're brought back? One thing about the power is that the person, whatever their role, is usually only good for one day anyway.
On one hand, having a few good guys outed means that the bad guys know who to pick off. On the other, they can only pick off one at a time, so it
helps narrow down the list a bit when trying to vote off bad guys.
I'm leaning toward being in favor of bringing her back - if only to have them waste a kill to off her again. That gives us all another day of gathering intel.
Wouldn't matter - my script ignores quoted text anyway to make sure quoting a vote doesn't count as a vote.Hope I bolded no names.
Edit: you bolded chrmjenkins so I guess you want to lynch the GG!
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I haver two names, one was scanned, the other was protected. However I cannot discern which was which. So while I could post both names, they wouldn't do us any good. It would only let the traitors know that Scepticalscribe knows the loyalty of one of the two people listed and may encourage them to devise reasons to not bring her back, should she know one of their loyalties. Also it would give them a decent chance of a guaranteed kill tonight since one of the two on the list was protected last night and hence can't be protected this night.
Overall I am for bringing Scepticalscribe back.
It frustrates me when we're trying to reach a common goal that you choose to with hold information that could be important and give no reason as to why.
So here is the list of suspects left. I left myself off since I know I am a pheasant, but feel free to add me back on, and remove yourself if you are keeping score at home.
Comeagain?
FenrisMoonlight
jimN
Sythas
Roric
Moyank24
ucfgrad93
ravenvii
rick snagwell
Queen of Spades
tweitee (can't be a traitor, but could be the bought man)
I left Moyank, and Raven on the list, since either on could be the sneak. Who the guard has protected is actually more valuable to us at this point, than the seers scans. We've had 4 nights, so that means that the vulture has protected 4 times. We know one of them was twietee, and he could have self protected twice at most. That means he can clear one other person off this list as being good. (Unless the other person protected is now dead)
IMO its would actually be wiser to bring back Don'tPanic, (if the Maester is still around) since he will be able to tell us Jav's Role. If it turns out that the Jav was the sneak, that clears moyank, and Raven. This is assuming that they were in fact scanned, given that the Silentbear won't say how he knows for sure. Well also know the master, and the Vulture should be able to clear one other person from the list. That removes 4 names from the list, and leaves us with 7, 3 or 4 of which could be bad guys. I like those odds. If any other specials came forward, your odds are even great. If the Bravosi uses the instakill on one of them the odds are very good. You see where I am going here. Its about narrowing the list.
Now it is a bit of a gamble, if Jav isn't the sneak. It throws Raven and Moyank back into the mix. However if JAV was the Dirk, it would allow the bought man to common forward if he/she is still alive. If the dirk is dead, hell be a good player the rest of the game. Then you'd have the person who the vulture clears, the maester revealed, and the bought man. thats 3 names you could cross off, leaving 3 of 8 as bad guys.
If JAV was the lord in waiting, DP's info doesn't do us much good.
A good starting point would be for the Vulture to give us the name of the other who was protected. Since we won't know what night they were protected, I don't see the harm. If they are dead, its irrelevant.
Sorry it frustrates you, but those were the people scanned. Adding more information wont' change that and is useless to the loyals and more useful to the traitors. Maybe I'm being overly cautious but I can't discern any reason to disclose it at this point. If you don't want to believe my assertion then that's fine.
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DP only knows the role of Jav. Nobody else. Unless you feel we can infer Tomorrow's role through some logic I don't see.