[WW] The MRville Horror, Part 3 GAME OVER - Villagers Win!

[jav6454]

i agree with this last part

but the motivation to go after you if he is the vamp/goth and knows you aren't his partner is incremental, while if he is the seer and he knows you are one of the bad guys said motivation would be very strong.

But he is not. All what he has said is, he looks suspicious. Past Seer's actually said it, or implied it in a very heavy way, and if the Hunter was smart, he'd actually pick up on it and protect the Seer for the night.

In this case, I don't see much of that.

A great example would be Game 1's ethical who braved the wolves and pointed them out. Here I do not see this case.

 

[tooz]

After the iBlue fiasco, I'm being careful not to be trigger happy, but it is really hard to choose between willbro and jav6454 Where is the seer when we need them?

 

[Don't panic]

But he is not. All what he has said is, he looks suspicious. Past Seer's actually said it, or implied it in a very heavy way, and if the Hunter was smart, he'd actually pick up on it and protect the Seer for the night.

In this case, I don't see much of that.

A great example would be Game 1's ethical who braved the wolves and pointed them out. Here I do not see this case.

that remains to be determined if he did point out the wolf or not

 

[jav6454]

After the iBlue fiasco, I'm being careful not to be trigger happy, but it is really hard to choose between willbro and jav6454 Where is the seer when we need them?

I'd like to point out that roric the previous Seer was devoured... so I don't think the Seer will come out.

Also, I have given my points to my defense. willbro only has suspicion as argument, that's it.

 

[lbro]

Just wait a little longer folks, I'm busy rereading most of the thread and picking out why I think jav6454 is a ww/vamp.

Also, I have given my points to my defense. willbro only has suspicion as argument, that's it.

I suspect you based on your previous posts.

 

[tooz]

I'd like to point out that roric the previous Seer was devoured... so I don't think the Seer will come out.

Also, I have given my points to my defense. willbro only has suspicion as argument, that's it.

Yeah, I think being eaten would be a pretty good thing to stop you coming out

And I'm leaning more towards willbro, It's just so freaking hard to play this game with any facial expression!

 

[jav6454]

I suspect you based on your previous posts.

So all you have is this? I went over my posts and all I do is talk, alot of talking. Yes I know. However, none of those are suspicious.

Summarized,

1. Gay unicorns
2. I voted for iBlue
2a. People voted vs me
2b. iBlue got lynched
3. We debated on Specials taking their sweet little time
4. Ravenvii gave us un update and I had coke spill thru my nose
5. stonyc died and I sighed in relief.
6. you vote vs me


I say, there is nothing wrong in those posts, nor do they bring suspicion to me. The fact that you wanted Don't Panic to bold my name is bloodlust at least. Just what philbeeney did. Albeit differently.

 

[lbro]

I believe her... ravenvii did say he used random.org to place our roles.



I don't think the alpha doggie would like to eat colors. From what I pick up in horror movies, warewolves like the damsel in distress or good tasty meals, not the next work of art (reference to iBlue's avatar)...

In any case it creeps me out more that the muts are in charge. Us villagers have nothing but to kill blindly will the muts can strike with precision.

Anyways, can we get the hunter to do a better job? Poor philbeeney got lynched... we don't want another repeat now do we?

Implying that he is just an innocent villager (he might be)

The curious thing is, I could easily say I'm the Hunter and no one would believe me. So, I'd have to say I am not the Hunter for people to believe.

Same goes for everyone else trying to exonerate themselves.

I think this behavior has to do more with the human thought on lying/deception.



Please do go on... us plebes, will never get the chance to experiment that thrill.

Again, implying that he is just a innocent villager.

Oh I so wish! To have the chance to maul or eliminate from a game is something I've always wanted. Unluckily I never get the chance. Now let me go cry to a corner because you hit my childhood weakspot.




Ah! Blackmail! No party if you get lynched? Hmmm....

Saying he wishes he could be one of the ww/vamps.

Lol, I always get that... perhaps my avatar is at fault?



I do?! I can take the votes, after all if I die, you'll all be a villager down and the muts will have an extra killing.

My house emitted strange sounds? My house was burned down remember! iBlue decided her house was to be the only pretty one (and the only one to have parties at) and decided to leave me homeless

So iBlue has my vote. *sobs to a corner because of being homeless*

Again, implying that he is a innocent villager

Killing me would only worsen the cause (one less villager).

Again, he says he is just a innocent villager.

I knew it she was a vampire wanna be!!!! To the GALLOWZ!!! Oh wait....

So she was wanting to be scan! TO THE... oh wait, that's a good thing. However, I wonder if the vampire has found the Goth

Speaking of bloodlust...

I was thinking alike. Why is willbro so anxious to see someone go to the gallows and so determined that he must ask to bold a name without just reason or argument?

The fact that you wanted Don't Panic to bold my name is bloodlust at best. Just what philbeeney did. Albeit differently.

I didn't want Don't Panic to bold your name, I just interpreted his post as a vote and thought he maybe forgot to bold it.

If jav6454 would have implied that he was an innocent villager only once I wouldn't have become suspicious but he implied it several times which made me suspicious.

Why, if I am a werewolf, would I want to have jav6454 lynched so badly? He hasn't said anything before that would make anyone think that I am the werewolf.

 

[tooz]

after much consideration, I'm voting for willbro. (No hard feelings!)

EDIT: changed my vote. see last page

 

[lbro]

well it's been over an hour, no defense, so bad luck willbro

I just did post a defense

 

[lbro]

Votes so far:
Jav6454: 4 (willbro, Mexbearpig, Gelfin, ucfgrad93)
willbro: 4(iBookG4user, jav6454, tooz, king mook mook)
Ucfgrad93: 1 (abijnk)

 

[tooz]

I just did post a defense

Yeah I took awhile to post that and started before you posted, but I read your defence and edited my post with my decision

 

[King Mook Mook]

After much careful thought, multiple committees, further subcommittees, etc. I have come to the conclusion that the only way that we can move forward is by brutally 'liberating willbro of his life'. No need to thank me, if you're a werewolf it'll be good enough!

 

[lbro]

If I get lynched the werewolves and the vampires will be laughing at the stupidity of the villagers. Ah well, once I die you will all know that I was innocent.

 

[Don't panic]

the majority is 8 this round.
we are still quite a way from a decision.

Something is rotten in MRmark. i have some ideas regarding where the smell comes from (other than iBlue's house) and on who should be sent to meet its ancestors, but I would like to see the input of some of the more silent denizens of this forgotten hamlet of direness before making my thought on the matter public.

 

[stonyc]

Poor stonyc!

It looks like somebody does "**** with the Jesus" after all...

Teehee!

I saw who killed me so let me tell you all!

"Mrrrrrrr. Unhhhhhh. Pffffffttt. Ahhhhhh. Unnnnnhhhh."

Sorry, us zombies aren't known for our diction.

 

[Melrose]

Will, bro, I've got your back. Don't worry about a thing.

 

[abijnk]

Oy vey, you both just sound desparate now... But I'm not sure I'm prepared to change my vote at this point.

 

[jav6454]

I have a come back for willbro's last post, just give ke sometime. I'm at work using my iPhone. (MR is blocked ).

 

[Don't panic]

ok, here is my thought:
the wolves have a powerful voting claque (3, maybe 4 coordinated votes), so they can easily try to 'drive' the decision, although not too much in an overt way as not to rise too many eyebrows.
they probably would just let te paesants decide who to fry, unless one of them is in danger. then you shoud expect them to intervene to save their brethren.

initially i was suspicious of Jav and abijnk, based on various post and particularly because or their leading the charge on iBlue, when she looked quite clearly innocent.

if one of them was accused, with some traction, some of the other ww should have come to the rescue and divert the attention, and the votes, to someone else.

enter Jav6545, the accused, and abijnk, the defender .
they diverted the tide from jav, eventually to willbro, not without some merit in their arguments.

except, where is willbro's kin if he is a wolf? nowhere to be seen.
i therefore submit that Jav6454 should be the sacrificed one, and if he is a wolf we move on to abjnk. if on the other hand he is a normal villager, then sorry-buddy-I-knew-all-along-you-were-innocent, and next time it's willbro's turn.

 

[mscriv]

What an interesting discussion. It seems we are now really playing as opposed to just randomly picking folk.

After reading through the arguments that have been presented something confuses me. Jav6454 makes the argument that the vampire would want to lynch a villager to make it easier for him to find the goth. This seems like a logic fail to me. The vamp and goth know the only way they can win the game is to find each other and at the same time use the villagers to take out the wolfies. If the vamp thinks you were a villager then why would he/she want to eliminate you when he/she needs your vote to take out a wolf? Let's not forget that we have an infectious werewolf out there so at any point their pack can grow making the odds for the villagers and the undead even worse. Based on sheer numbers alone, the vamp/goth need the villagers much more than the werewolves do. Hmmm...

As far as willbro goes, it's a risky move to be the first to throw a name out there in a voting round. We all saw how that worked out for philbeeney. So, willbro could be the seer trying to guide us in the right direction. However, he also could be a werewolf trying to lead us in the wrong direction. Or he could simply be a scared villager just trying to make sure at the end of the day it's not him hanging from the gallows. Hmmm...

Does anybody have a coin I can flip?

 

[abijnk]

ok, here is my thought:
the wolves have a powerful voting claque (3, maybe 4 coordinated votes), so they can easily try to 'drive' the decision, although not too much in an overt way as not to rise too many eyebrows.
they probably would just let te paesants decide who to fry, unless one of them is in danger. then you shoud expect them to intervene to save their brethren.

initially i was suspicious of Jav and abijnk, based on various post and particularly because or their leading the charge on iBlue, when she looked quite clearly innocent.

if one of them was accused, with some traction, some of the other ww should have come to the rescue and divert the attention, and the votes, to someone else.

enter Jav6545, the accused, and abijnk, the defender .
they diverted the tide from jav, eventually to willbro, not without some merit in their arguments.

except, where is willbro's kin if he is a wolf? nowhere to be seen.
i therefore submit that Jav6454 should be the sacrificed one, and if he is a wolf we move on to abjnk. if on the other hand he is a normal villager, then sorry-buddy-I-knew-all-along-you-were-innocent, and next time it's willbro's turn.

One major flaw in your accusation of me (emphasis mine): where have I said anything about willbro?

If you are going to accuse me of being a baddie at least make sure the reasoning you are using is based in fact.

EDIT: In addition to that (I had to go check to make sure I was correct) I was suspicious of iBlue before anyone had ever even voted for jav5464 once. So how the heck did I get caught up in this? Now because I'm not going with the heard I must be working with the baddies? Well, the joke is on you, because every vote I've picked a player and stuck with it, sure in my reasoning (even thought I was completely wrong about iBlue, and for that I am sorry )

Also, just an FYI for everyone, looking back through the thread I noticed we are a player down. Rodimus Prime has a TO.

 

[Melrose]

Does anybody have a coin I can flip?

There's an app for that.™

 

[jav6454]

Implying that he is just an innocent villager (he might be)


Again, implying that he is just a innocent villager.

Well, my question is. What am I supposed to say when I'm accused like that? I can't say something random or that rises suspicion. I have to look at the acusation and confront it head on. Hence the "I am villager" response.

Saying he wishes he could be one of the ww/vamps.

Don't we all?

Again, implying that he is a innocent villager


Again, he says he is just a innocent villager.

See above.

Speaking of bloodlust...

Those posts have sarcasm imprinted on them over twice my usual liking. If you can't pick that up, then I would see why of your choice. But trust me, smiley faces and strong sarcasm riddle those two posts.

I didn't want Don't Panic to bold your name, I just interpreted his post as a vote and thought he maybe forgot to bold it.

But why (if you figured he forgot to bold) would you need to remind so adamantly? Wouldn't he eventually realize it and do it?

If jav6454 would have implied that he was an innocent villager only once I wouldn't have become suspicious but he implied it several times which made me suspicious.

Why, if I am a werewolf, would I want to have jav6454 lynched so badly? He hasn't said anything before that would make anyone think that I am the werewolf.

If I were to have said or implied that I am a villager only once, I think it would mean I would have give up on the game since Day 1.

So now you are saying.

Why, if I am a werewolf, would I want to have jav6454 lynched so badly? He hasn't said anything before that would make anyone think that I am the werewolf.

Then why do you want me lynched? If I have given you no evidence of mut-like actions, why would you want me gone? I'm curious, do you wish the wolves to have more power over us?

ok, here is my thought:
the wolves have a powerful voting claque (3, maybe 4 coordinated votes), so they can easily try to 'drive' the decision, although not too much in an overt way as not to rise too many eyebrows.
they probably would just let te paesants decide who to fry, unless one of them is in danger. then you shoud expect them to intervene to save their brethren.

initially i was suspicious of Jav and abijnk, based on various post and particularly because or their leading the charge on iBlue, when she looked quite clearly innocent.

if one of them was accused, with some traction, some of the other ww should have come to the rescue and divert the attention, and the votes, to someone else.

enter Jav6545, the accused, and abijnk, the defender .
they diverted the tide from jav, eventually to willbro, not without some merit in their arguments.

except, where is willbro's kin if he is a wolf? nowhere to be seen.
i therefore submit that Jav6454 should be the sacrificed one, and if he is a wolf we move on to abjnk. if on the other hand he is a normal villager, then sorry-buddy-I-knew-all-along-you-were-innocent, and next time it's willbro's turn.

abijnk didn't vote or at least hasn't voted for willbro. In fact her vote is still casted at ufcgrad93. I don't see how that is helping me.

Also, she hasn't said a beep since yesterday and if you read correctly I have been the one actively defending myself. abijnk just gave a view point, but an idea that people already share, nothing new. It would be picked up right away as you said, but I don't see abijnk here shouting at her lungs tops, we are not WW!!!. Instead, she just posted, that willbro and me are at a desperate streak. If she was my ally, wouldn't she have just changed her vote by now?

As per the iBlue case, didn't we all agree it was the mod mentality that took over? Diverting attention would be too obvious of a sham.

 

[Don't panic]

One major flaw in your accusation of me (emphasis mine): where have I said anything about willbro?

If you are going to accuse me of being a baddie at least make sure the reasoning you are using is based in fact.

in this scenario, you diverted the attention from jav6545 (to ufcgrad) as soon as jav was in jeopardy. when iG4 brought up willbro and it got traction, your immediate contribution was not necessary, nor advised just needed to be there to give willbro the coup the grace if the waters around jav got really hot.

don't worry, if jav turns out to be innocent, then you are vindicated.

edit: if abijnk was your ally, NOT to scream out of her lungs to protect you and involve herself would be the smart strategy. she'd do it more subtly.

again, if willbro is a ww, why isn't anyone of the other 2-3 defending him?