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[WW] The MRville Horror, Part 3 GAME OVER - Villagers Win!

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Don't panic said:
in this scenario, you diverted the attention from jav6545 (to ufcgrad) as soon as jav was in jeopardy. when iG4 brought up willbro and it got traction, your immediate contribution was not necessary, nor advised just needed to be there to give willbro the coup the grace if the waters around jav got really hot.

don't worry, if jav turns out to be innocent, then you are vindicated. :D
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Which implies that if he is not then you are going to lynch a villager over faulty logic. Sounds like a great plan, let me know how it turns out.
 
abijnk said:
Which implies that if he is not then you are going to lynch a villager over faulty logic. Sounds like a great plan, let me know how it turns out.
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odds are that we ARE going to lynch an innocent villager.
we already did two.
a faulty logic is better than no logic, and if jav's turns out to be a dead innocent, then i would most definitively support to march willbro to the gallows.
 
Don't panic said:
in this scenario, you diverted the attention from jav6545 (to ufcgrad) as soon as jav was in jeopardy. when iG4 brought up willbro and it got traction, your immediate contribution was not necessary, nor advised just needed to be there to give willbro the coup the grace if the waters around jav got really hot.

don't worry, if jav turns out to be innocent, then you are vindicated. :D

dit: if abijnk was your ally, NOT to scream out of her lungs to protect you and involve herself would be the smart strategy. she'd do it more subtly.

again, if willbro is a ww, why isn't anyone of the other 2-3 defending him?
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I still see logic failure here. I don't see abijnk jumping ship to save me (nor do I see a post from her saying willbro). She was quick to point out something which just happened to save me from the mob mentality. Which has lead us to nothing.

Because it would really bring attention to them. Just look at me and abijnk for goodness sake. However, I don't see the other user here defending me. By your logic that should be happening. But don't see that 3rd or 4th person.

Oh as per abijnk, she did go vocal on her husband's voter (philbeeney), If I were on her side, I'd be betting she'd also scream, not him you...

mscriv said:
What an interesting discussion. It seems we are now really playing as opposed to just randomly picking folk.

After reading through the arguments that have been presented something confuses me. Jav6454 makes the argument that the vampire would want to lynch a villager to make it easier for him to find the goth. This seems like a logic fail to me. The vamp and goth know the only way they can win the game is to find each other and at the same time use the villagers to take out the wolfies. If the vamp thinks you were a villager then why would he/she want to eliminate you when he/she needs your vote to take out a wolf? Let's not forget that we have an infectious werewolf out there so at any point their pack can grow making the odds for the villagers and the undead even worse. Based on sheer numbers alone, the vamp/goth need the villagers much more than the werewolves do. Hmmm...

As far as willbro goes, it's a risky move to be the first to throw a name out there in a voting round. We all saw how that worked out for philbeeney. So, willbro could be the seer trying to guide us in the right direction. However, he also could be a werewolf trying to lead us in the wrong direction. Or he could simply be a scared villager just trying to make sure at the end of the day it's not him hanging from the gallows. Hmmm...

Does anybody have a coin I can flip? :confused:
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In response to the vampire percentages. We were discussing (Don't Panic and I) about how easy the vampire and goth have it. However, that has nothing to do with my defense, that is just an aside. Please do not think it in my defense.

If willbro were the Seer, he would have said or implied so many times already that he is. Just look at the previous Seers. They imply or say it through out the entire game.
 
Don't panic said:
this i tend to agree with, although people play different and 2 games is not that much of a statistical basis.
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Yes, even so more, their strategies helped cough up the last remaining wolves.

willbro would know that since he posted and looked in games 1 & 2. Also, he just posted that he has no convincing evidence of me. He just said, "because I said I'm a villager more than once".

That is all his argument. A weak one.
 
Gelfin said:
*sigh* I just don't know, but my coin flip said stick with jav. I might just not be very good at this. :eek:
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:eek: I am also not good at it, but I do my best to provide a defense.

I don't see how "just a suspicion with no clues, just because" turns me into the baddie:confused: Surely, you, a master debater see some logic flaw to that.
 
jav6454 said:
:eek: I am also not good at it, but I do my best to provide a defense.

I don't see how "just a suspicion with no clues, just because" turns me into the baddie:confused: Surely, you, a master debater see some logic flaw to that.
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Well, I think I was also made suspicious by the same reinforcement over and over that you're just a humble villager, which still makes me suspect you are something else. Maybe just the goth or something, or maybe even a good special, but I have seen no specific hints of that, and as you said, they give clues.
 
Gelfin said:
Well, I think I was also made suspicious by the same reinforcement over and over that you're just a humble villager, which still makes me suspect you are something else. Maybe just the goth or something, or maybe even a good special, but I have seen no specific hints of that, and as you said, they give clues.
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Like I said. I haven't said I'm a villager just out of nowehere, have I had my reasons. Each time I've said it, I was accused as a bad special. I can't go on and say, "you know what, you are right", that would just end it for me. Go on, look back, you won't find it being said out of the blue.
 
jav6454 said:
Like I said. I haven't said I'm a villager just out of nowehere, have I had my reasons. Each time I've said it, I was accused as a bad special. I can't go on and say, "you know what, you are right", that would just end it for me. Go on, look back, you won't find it being said out of the blue.
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I'll continue to read and think about it, but for now, no really, I flipped a coin. :eek: No hard feelings.
 
This reeks of desperation to avoid the "mob mentality," so I assigned a random number generator (using my calculator, not Excel) to pick from the list in the OP.

The first time it came up 15 (stonyc).

The second time it came up 14 (philbeeney).

Since both are already departed, it would seem that I can't even avoid "mob mentality" right. :( So for this round, I'm voting for willbro. Sorry, bro. (unless you're one of the baddies, of course)
 
Votes so far:

willbro: 6 (iBookG4user, jav6454, tooz, king mook mook, Melrose, tomorrow)
Jav6454: 5 (willbro, Mexbearpig, Gelfin, ucfgrad93, Don’t Panic, )
Ucfgrad93: 1 (abijnk)
 
And, jav, you know what, I don't feel too bad since it's starting to look like you'll survive anyway, so if I'm going to start playing strategy here, if willbro is a wolf, then perhaps my cluelessness will spare me from the vengeance of his brothers or and/or sisters, and if you're a wolf, kindly remember that this is pretty totally random, and I'm really not sure I wouldn't switch out of guilty uncertainty if the vote got close to going against you.

I iz so indecisive. :eek:
 
Gelfin said:
I iz so indecisive. :eek:
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Comedy relief time, read after pic.

Search your feelings, you know it to be true. I am your fellow villager *electronic breathing*

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On a more serious note. See, I know you are indecisive because I have not given a reason for me being something. I always say something with proof and not just a "hunch"
 
Gelfin said:
And, jav, you know what, I don't feel too bad since it's starting to look like you'll survive anyway, so if I'm going to start playing strategy here, if willbro is a wolf, then perhaps my cluelessness will spare me from the vengeance of his brothers or and/or sisters, and if you're a wolf, kindly remember that this is pretty totally random, and I'm really not sure I wouldn't switch out of guilty uncertainty if the vote got close to going against you.

I iz so indecisive. :eek:
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If you vote to lynch me there will be no revenge.
Jav, I'm not totally sure that you are a baddie, I have no idea who the werewolves are so I had to start somewhere.
I won't be replying till 5pm so I think the next time I log on I will be dead.
 
Votes so far:

jav6454: 5 (willbro, Mexbearpig, Gelfin, ucfgrad93, Don't Panic)
ucfgrad93: 1 (abijnk)
willbro: 5 (iBookG4user, jav6454, tooz King Mook Mook, Tomorrow)

Let me know if I missed anything.

On a separate note, I was thinking about the specials holding up the game. I'm thinking maybe the specials could send me preemptive PMs even if voting hasn't ended. You can change your move at any time, and of course if your choice is lynched, it'll be vacated and I'll wait for a new PM from you.

Hopefully that'll help move the game along a bit faster. Thoughts?
 
ravenvii said:
Votes so far:

jav6454: 5 (willbro, Mexbearpig, Gelfin, ucfgrad93, Don't Panic)
ucfgrad93: 1 (abijnk)
willbro: 5 (iBookG4user, jav6454, tooz King Mook Mook, Tomorrow)

Let me know if I missed anything.

On a separate note, I was thinking about the specials holding up the game. I'm thinking maybe the specials could send me preemptive PMs even if voting hasn't ended. You can change your move at any time, and of course if your choice is lynched, it'll be vacated and I'll wait for a new PM from you.

Hopefully that'll help move the game along a bit faster. Thoughts?
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that sounds good.
i think you can also drop the 'fixed time' requirement before you announce the night's events. i think everyone is invisible now (btw, that should really be made mandatory) so there is no relevant info in the logs
 
Don't panic said:
that sounds good.
i think you can also drop the 'fixed time' requirement before you announce the night's events. i think everyone is invisible now (btw, that should really be made mandatory) so there is no relevant info in the logs
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I thought we already said we were all supposed to be invisible for this game.

ravenvii said:
Votes so far:

jav6454: 5 (willbro, Mexbearpig, Gelfin, ucfgrad93, Don't Panic)
ucfgrad93: 1 (abijnk)
willbro: 5 (iBookG4user, jav6454, tooz King Mook Mook, Tomorrow)

Let me know if I missed anything.

On a separate note, I was thinking about the specials holding up the game. I'm thinking maybe the specials could send me preemptive PMs even if voting hasn't ended. You can change your move at any time, and of course if your choice is lynched, it'll be vacated and I'll wait for a new PM from you.

Hopefully that'll help move the game along a bit faster. Thoughts?
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You forgot Melrose's vote in there. He voted against willbro.

On the specials, I agree, so that they hurry the dam up. There will also be a vote withheld because Rodimus Prime is under a Time-Out.
 
Don't panic said:
that sounds good.
i think you can also drop the 'fixed time' requirement before you announce the night's events. i think everyone is invisible now (btw, that should really be made mandatory) so there is no relevant info in the logs
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That's true - I'll hear what others have to say, if there's a general consensus agreeing with you, then it will be done.
 
So that is a lot to read... jav6454 seems to be putting up an ok defense.. willbro just seems stuck and is trying to deny it real quick..mob mentality is one hell of a drug and you are the weakest of the defenses so... sorry willbro.
 
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