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WWDC 2005 Approaching

powerbook g5

definitely :D

only shipping end of July, pre-orders from end of June (that way apple gets to book sales for this quarter) :D

well, that's my guess, and i'm sticking to it. clouded though, the future, is...

i'm hoping for the above though so that in July existing powerbook g4s go into firesale mode... yeah :D

i'll picka-me-up a Tiger'ed iLife-05'ed powerbook 1.67ghz 128mb vram mobility 9700 with 512mb ram. 80gb 5400rpm drive, sweet. combo drive only.... for CHEAP... YEAH
 
Notebooks

I think Jobs will make the announcement of the new form factor powerbooks which will be outfitted with the dual g4 proc's from freescale (which would take care of the problem of ppl saying you can't fit it in the current pb), then the the iBook will take over the current pb specs, but the case will go from the current case to sprayed white case... possibly still alum. or switch to plastic. This would only be announced but not yet available till first week of august which will be perfect timing for school. You really have to put things into perspective of the school season coming up, many sales. Otherwise...they may be planning for an october release and a second revision by next fall for the school year. Either way, dual g4 pb announced.
 
jwdsail said:
I could see them adding 802.11n and faster ATI cards to the PowerMacs this soon... If 802.11n equipment is announced, I think Apple will want to roll it out asap..
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Hello. Hello. This is reality calling. 802.11n won't be ratified till December of 06 AT THE EARLIEST. 2007 is much more likely. At this point its not even at the stage where you can make something close enough to the standard that it can later be ugraded. Any pre-N product is essentially guaranteed to not work with the ratified standard. No way in hell will apple go down that road.
 
swissmann said:
Here's to hoping that something is something completely new.
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Just noted that Freescale reported the 7448 as a new product for Q2/2005.
http://www.freescale.com/files/shared/doc/selector_guide/SG1001.pdf

So, I'd lay down good money that we see a PB update with the 7448 at WWDC and an iBook update w/ the 7447B (? whatever the current chip is in the PB).

T

Current G5 = Never.
Dual-core G4 = Not yet in volume production (next PB rev if no mobile G5?)
Mobile G5 (someday)
 
wrylachlan said:
Hello. Hello. This is reality calling. 802.11n won't be ratified till December of 06 AT THE EARLIEST. 2007 is much more likely. At this point its not even at the stage where you can make something close enough to the standard that it can later be ugraded. Any pre-N product is essentially guaranteed to not work with the ratified standard. No way in hell will apple go down that road.
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Yep, Apple would never use draft spec WiFi equipment...

http://wifinetnews.com/archives/001433.html

6 months before 802.11g was ratified...

Anyway, my post was re: a post saying that Apple would not possibly update the PowerMac G5s in any way.. I just pointed out two ways they could update the PowerMacs that would make sense... *If* Apple announced say, 802.11n equipment, they'd want to roll it out asap.. that would likely include PowerMacs..

Shrug.
 
wrylachlan said:
Hello. Hello. This is reality calling. 802.11n won't be ratified till December of 06 AT THE EARLIEST. 2007 is much more likely. At this point its not even at the stage where you can make something close enough to the standard that it can later be upgraded. Any pre-N product is essentially guaranteed to not work with the ratified standard. No way in hell will apple go down that road.
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That seems surprising. Thought that they usually have the networks to be backward compatible.
 
I dont think that Steve will say much at all about Tiger given that the past 2 keynotes have focused a lot on Tiger. But Tiger is not new news anymore. I really hope that we see some PowerBooks with updated processors (7448's @ at least 2.0GHz), I'd definitely get one, and finally switch! :) ... Dreaming about Tiger, Expose, Automator, iLife.... oh man... :D
 
~Shard~ said:
How about "iPhotoshop"? I don't think Apple would get sued over that... Hell, if someone isn't getting sued over that whole PC Mini thing... ;)
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That would be really cool :D :D :D
 
drewyboy said:
I think Jobs will make the announcement of the new form factor powerbooks which will be outfitted with the dual g4 proc's from freescale (which would take care of the problem of ppl saying you can't fit it in the current pb), then the the iBook will take over the current pb specs, but the case will go from the current case to sprayed white case... possibly still alum. or switch to plastic. This would only be announced but not yet available till first week of august which will be perfect timing for school. You really have to put things into perspective of the school season coming up, many sales. Otherwise...they may be planning for an october release and a second revision by next fall for the school year. Either way, dual g4 pb announced.
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A PLASTIC Powerbook?? No way!
I am pretty confident that the aluminium and the solid industrial look are perhaps the reasons why people buy them. If Apple was to change that i don't think people would be so attracted to them anymore. When it comes to portable equipment, looks are as important as function.
 
tdewey said:
http://www.freescale.com/files/abstract/misc/FTF_PPC_JUMP1.html

Freescale has a number of sessions concerning both the 7448 and 8461D. The multi-core G4 might not be as far away as we all are thinking.
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The 7448 is a certain bet. If not for PowerBooks, then definitely for the iBooks, eMacs, and Mac Minis. The 7448 should be able to take the G4 to 2.0 ghz which would mean the consumer line (minus the iMac) will be on the G4 for another 12-18 months.
 
Why does everyone think the Mac mini should be upgraded? :confused: :rolleyes:
 

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dongmin said:
The 7448 is a certain bet. If not for PowerBooks, then definitely for the iBooks, eMacs, and Mac Minis. The 7448 should be able to take the G4 to 2.0 ghz which would mean the consumer line (minus the iMac) will be on the G4 for another 12-18 months.
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What I liked about the 7448 is that they are quoting power usages of about 10W at 1.4Ghz. The 7447A runs 21W at that speed typically.

If they do do an iBook Mini - a 1.4Ghz 10W cool little computer is easily possible. 1MB L2 cache too!


...and still with the 60x front side bus though now it's up to 200Mhz which is probably ok for a laptop.
 
pigwin32 said:
I think the 7448 is rated at 1.5GHz, kind of a backward step for the PB's.
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Not really.

Freescale rate it at 'at least 1.5Ghz' whereas they rate the 7447A in the current powerbooks as max 1.42Ghz.

Apple has always ran processors faster than what Moto/Freescale say is the max. Also, the 7448 has twice the L2 cache and a faster FSB. They're also making play about the AltiVec engine being able to execute two instructions out of order too but I can't remember if the 7447 did also.

Either way, you couldn't call it a backward step.
 
I can only see one thing clearly in my crystal ball..

and that is Xsan 1.1. It's been in beta for a while now and ought to be ready to roll. The main thing it brings is Petabyte volumes. An Xserve announcement would fit nicely with this but only possible if the 970mp/gx chips are available in reasnoble quantitities and they weren't for the recent G5 refresh. However time has past and Apple don't sell so many Xserves. In addition it would be good to see dual PCI-X busses in the Xserve to boost data throughput when using an Xserve as a NAS head to a SAN.

Possibly we may see the Xstation, WWDC would be the right place to announce it given NAB has been and gone, my gut feeling says no. the only glimmer would be to launch it aggressively targeting Xbox 360 developers (the existing G5 is already a development and testing platform).

I expect a lot of riffing on a theme of H.264 although I don't expect anything Cell based until after the PS3 hits the stores next year. OpenGL 2.0 and the new ways in which Tiger handles graphics should be strong theme.

What do I wish for?

I want a thin and light notebook based on the Freescale 8641D . I won't get it the System on chip architecture is too alien to what Apple are using but it would be nice to dream that apple would do it and get the first Dual Core chip into a laptop.

As for recent Intel rumours, I don't think we'll get anything this time around but I reckon their discussions have been about XScale rather than pentium.
 
aegisdesign said:
Not really.

Freescale rate it at 'at least 1.5Ghz' whereas they rate the 7447A in the current powerbooks as max 1.42Ghz.

Apple has always ran processors faster than what Moto/Freescale say is the max. Also, the 7448 has twice the L2 cache and a faster FSB. They're also making play about the AltiVec engine being able to execute two instructions out of order too but I can't remember if the 7447 did also.

Either way, you couldn't call it a backward step.
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Even so...if the fastest current Powerbooks are running at 1.67ghz and motorola rates them at 1.42, then that means that Apple runs them 1.176x faster than moto does, if Apple runs these new 7448's 1.176x faster that still means we are only at 1.76ghz, ok they may have a bigger L2 cache and aa faster FSB (that will improve the Powerbook drastically), but other than that I don't think that makes enough change to CPU speed for Apple to only run 7448's at 1.76ghz. Anyways we'll find out next Monday.
 
feakbeak said:
That is fake, it's already been brought up in other threads.
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The fact the story was logged "CUPERTINO, California—June 7, 2005" should have been a hint the author was messing with you. ;)

Still, we can always hope - until Monday at least, one way or the other.
 
The bus speed of the 7448 is 200Mhz which means 2 Ghz witht he same multiplier. 200Mhz is still pretty bad. The Pentium M has an FSB of 400Mhz or 533Mhz. This is where the G4 falls down. It must spend half it's cycles drumming its fingers waiting for stuff to turn up from memory. The 8641D has dual on board 64bit DDR2 memory controllers runing at 667Mhz and that would scream. Still no chance of it happening.
 
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