WWDC: Safari For Windows

[archer75]

My gmail account won't render properly in safari. You'd think they would have worked that out by now.
I really don't like safari, on a mac and on a PC I use firefox.

And it continues to open new links in a new window instead of a new tab. It's driving me nuts.

 

[72930]

Generally I think it's an improvement, the tabs feature is great, and the speed, well.....It's a lot faster for me.
My only quibbles are that; 1. My gMail widgets no longer work, 2. I'm stuck with the horrible brushed aluminum look as shape-shifter doesn't work on it for some reason.

UNO works

 

[xUKHCx]

According to http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/features/safari.html Safari 3.0 has new inline controls for PDF documents. This is not working for me (OS X). Is it me or it was left out of the Beta? How does the windows version handle PDFs?

BTW. Apple's site new search field has a nice graphic "autofill" feature. Never noticed it before. Is it new?

The PDf reference isn't on the Safari Beta 3 page but is on the Safari in Leopard page.

Therefore think it probably relies on features of Leoaprd and can't be used in the beta on Tiger.

 

[michaelverdin]

UNO works

Wow, I hadn't even heard of that, working perfectly now, THANKS!



Cheers

Mike

 

[mikesjo]

What is this widget you people speak of?

 

[samh004]

Just installed it on the peecee at work, running XP. Strange that I had to restart on my Mac, but not XP, guess it needed to install something that required a log-off.

It looks a lot like Safari, but the preferences are just copied and pasted, they're not windows-centric at all. And the browser actually seems slow, occasionally stalling as I scroll down a page. There's no built-in spell checker.

I like the ability to move tabs around and the resizeable text-box. The best thing I have found are a whole load of printers in this department through the bonjour menu.

There are too many bad things and not enough good, till they sort it all out I am actually going to have to go back to firefox.

 

[zwida]

Just installed it on the peecee at work, running XP. Strange that I had to restart on my Mac, but not XP, guess it needed to install something that required a log-off.

It had to replace Safari 2.0.4 (and all its integrated glory). That's why the restart is required.

 

[bgerber]

There is nothing special, only the Find feature is cool.

The last thing Windows needs is another Internet application. I can't imagine this catching on with people who only use Windows PeeCees. I hope I am wrong though.

Actually, I hope you are right. I am clueless why Apple would take a lackluster browser like Safari and decide to joust with IE in the Windows world. Who cares? Next will we see Apple try to take over the earbud market?

And be careful what you wish for, Steve. One of the main reasons that Macs and Apple software are relatively secure is that they have an insignificant market share in the eyes of commercial hackers who play the odds. Oh goodie, now we are going to have a Safari browser market share between Firefox and IE.

We will all regret this day.

 

[elppa]

Sorry, but it's pants. Safari always has been IMHO.

Try adding multiple backgrounds to the same element or using text shadows with all your wonderful browsers that don't suck.

Oh, I forgot, you can't

 

[iaddict]

can't get Safari to work on XP

For some reason, the browser only partially shows up - nothing in address bar, nothing around it and only partially shows items on page. Is there something I haven't done right?

 

[Detlev]

I like the reset options that were upgraded. Much better control for private browsing and clearing the application. Along with the many other upgrades and the fact that it now works with google docs, this just became my primary browser—again.

Sure, I would like all the creature comforts of FireFox but except for one I have them already in Dashboard.

 

[luminosity]

Gmail is working normally for me, just for the record.

 

[samh004]

It had to replace Safari 2.0.4 (and all its integrated glory). That's why the restart is required.

Thought it was probably something like that.

 

[rjmccorkle]

safari blank

Menus appear blank for me-why?

did anyone see the question???? WHY IS IT BLANK!?

 

[Lewisham]

Have to say that I still think Camino 1.5 is faster than Safari. The benchmarks may say otherwise, but in my own personal usage, Camino simply feels more responsive.

And rightly or wrongly, it also renders more towards the designers wishes, because it renders for developers who designed it in Firefox.

Safari 3 needs to do better than just slap the latest WebKit in and call it a day. Not even any ad-blocking capability or some form of plug-in architecture. Dear dear.

 

[strangelogic]

for what it's worth

Well - for anyone who noticed my earlier post about the Safari Beta install messing up my Yahoo chat (scrolling to the top of the chat window with each new message instead of the bottom) - the Uninstall worked very nicely to correct that.

I know yahoo chat on Mac is not good, but... I use it, and can't have it scrolling automatically to the wrong end of the window. I did send a report to apple from the Safari beta, but not sure they will understand it. Most likely the folks coding Yahoo messenger have something implemented incorrectly - so there may be no fix unless it comes from them. Suppose I need to look for some other Yahoo chat clients... new Safari IS FAST.

Time to try it out on the MBP see if the behaviour is the same - yeah - I test software for a living...

 

[elppa]

Have to say that I still think Camino 1.5 is faster than Safari. The benchmarks may say otherwise, but in my own personal usage, Camino simply feels more responsive.

And rightly or wrongly, it also renders more towards the designers wishes, because it renders for developers who designed it in Firefox.

Safari 3 needs to do better than just slap the latest WebKit in and call it a day. Not even any ad-blocking capability or some form of plug-in architecture. Dear dear.

Camino doesn't have a plug-in architecture either, so I can't see what point you are trying to make. Yes FF has a very good one

Designers should develop for web standards, that way their pages will render the same on all good, standards aware web browsers. Developers who design just for FF and/or just for IE are amateurs IMO. Sure test in those two, but work to standards.

 

[Lonon]

Crashes, and crashes every time i try something.
Safari on Vista tells me i have to reinstall. I repair it, and tells me the same thing. Something about missing important resources appears on the page.

 

[Pooldraft]

Well that was fun....

I installed the "old" beta and restarted. Clicked on Safari and what to my eyes is that NOTHING, but wait, CRASH REPORT. Love that. Next thing I did was run the unistall package and another restart and back the begining.

I am not sure if this is a feature on the "old" beta but Camino's spell check is bad ass.

10.4.9 17" PB 1.5 G4, 1.5 RAM

 

[floatingspirit]

Crash

Dudes,

It installed like clockwork but when I went to use it, it crashed 4 times in a row. Then I clicked the "report a bug button" and it crashed again! LOL. This beta is way to beta for me! But I still love it more than Internad Exploder!

But I supoose this is the beginning of Applesoft! aaaaaahhhh!

PS. I did this on my WIndows XP at work...I happen to have obtained administrator privileges...

 

[Lewisham]

Camino doesn't have a plug-in architecture either, so I can't see what point you are trying to make. Yes FF has a very good one

Designers should develop for web standards, that way their pages will render the same on all good, standards aware web browsers. Developers who design just for FF and/or just for IE are amateurs IMO. Sure test in those two, but work to standards.

But Camino does have ad-blocking. I was covering my bases. Safari should at least try for having one feature that the Gecko browsers have over it. Even OmniWeb beats it for sheer usability.

 

[Warbrain]

Dudes,

It installed like clockwork but when I went to use it, it crashed 4 times in a row. Then I clicked the "report a bug button" and it crashed again! LOL. This beta is way to beta for me! But I still love it more than Internad Exploder!

But I supoose this is the beginning of Applesoft! aaaaaahhhh!

Yea, it's definitely an alpha more than a beta. I remember when Safari was first in beta and it was a WHOLE lot more stable.

 

[subwarm]

This Safari Beta thing is really weird. Installed at work PC and it actually runs well, great even. No crashes, very speedy.

I get home and install Safari to my home PC - same specs (both Dell) and nothing works. No fonts, no menus, even the bug report icon crashes (as someone said previously).

If was a potential switcher based on this installation alone I think I'd be scared to death.

 

[swindmill]

I installed the "old" beta and restarted. Clicked on Safari and what to my eyes is that NOTHING, but wait, CRASH REPORT. Love that. Next thing I did was run the unistall package and another restart and back the begining.

I am not sure if this is a feature on the "old" beta but Camino's spell check is bad ass.

10.4.9 17" PB 1.5 G4, 1.5 RAM

Remove your Safari Input Managers

 

[3nm]

My gmail account won't render properly in safari. You'd think they would have worked that out by now.
I really don't like safari, on a mac and on a PC I use firefox.

And it continues to open new links in a new window instead of a new tab. It's driving me nuts.

agreed. safari is meh... i use FF on both mac and win as well.