When I have complained about them including it? I have multiple Apple USB C to Lightning cables, a USB C PD power bank, and AC adaptors
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2018 iPhones Could Ship With New 18W USB-C Power Adapters, USB-C to Lightning Cables for Fast Charging
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Oh, good. standardizing USB-C across all apple chargers and cables. Now the people complaining about not being able to plug their phones into their MacBooks can finally shut up.
Well, at least all those silly "I can't charge my iPhone with my MacBook Pro out of the box" comments will finally stop.
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Lol, just wrote the same thing and then saw your post
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Lol, just wrote the same thing and then saw your post
Apple's 2018 iPhone lineup could ship with new USB-C power adapters that come with USB-C to Lightning cables for faster charging, according to a post on Chinese social network Weibo that cites supply chain sources.
Apple is said to be planning to upgrade to USB-C support for all of its devices, shipping next-generation iPhones with a redesigned 18W power adapter that allows for USB-C fast charging with an included USB-C to Lightning cable.
We're not able to verify this rumor as it comes from a source without a track record for accurate reporting, but switching to USB-C power adapters across the iPhone and iPad lineup would make some sense as Apple's Mac lineup has largely transitioned to USB-C.
An 18W USB-C power adapter would enable fast charging speeds that would allow the iPhone to charge from 0 to 50% in approximately 30 minutes.
This kind of fast charging functionality is available for the iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus, iPhone X, and iPad Pro models, but at the current time, it requires customers to use a USB-C MacBook power adapter (minimum price $49) or a third-party USB-C power adapter ($15+) paired with a Lightning to USB-C cable, which is priced at $25 and only available as a standalone accessory.
Current iPhone models ship with a 5W power adapter that works with a USB-A to Lightning cable, so an upgrade to an 18W adapter would be a huge change. Presumably, the same changes will be implemented in upcoming iPad Pro models if the rumor is true, with Apple also upgrading the existing 12W USB-A iPad Pro power adapter to an 18W USB-C power adapter.
When using fast charging functionality over USB-C with a USB-C to Lightning cable, maximum charging speeds are achieved on an iPad or iPhone at approximately 18W, as we discovered in a detailed iPhone X charging speed test we performed late last year.
An included USB-C power adapter and USB-C to Lightning cable that supports fast charging would be a huge gain for iPhone users. Such charging speeds promise 50% battery in 30 minutes and can deliver an 80% charge (from zero) in approximately an hour. Many competing Android devices already support fast charging without the need for customers to purchase additional accessories.
Today's report suggests the design of the charger that ships with the iPhone will see an overhaul, going from the traditional square shape to something more akin to an oval. As mentioned above, it will reportedly include a USB-C to Lightning cable.
Right now, Apple does not allow third-party companies to make USB-C to Lightning cables, and the Weibo report indicates USB-C to Lightning cables will continue to be proprietary technology until 2019, when Apple may open up the standard to allow its MFi partners to manufacture the cables.
(Thanks, ED!)
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They should have done this a couple years ago. The fact that you could buy a iPhone 6s and a Macbook, and not be able to sync your phone over itunes is a complete joke. I understand that they're moving away from wired syncing, and that this would have been problematic for the back log of usb-a macs, but if they're going to do a bullish and ballsy move like get rid of the headphone jack, they definitely should have cut out the usb-a adapters a while ago and just thrown in a lightning to usb type-a or usb-c to type-a adapter in the box.
Notifications are better, yes. I'm simply saying phones are absolutely not commodities. It's ridiculous to say that, really.
If anything, you could say all Androids are commodities to each other. Even I don't believe that, but it's more relevant than saying iPhone (with iOS) is just like any Android.[/QUOTE]
By definition any smartphone is a commodity. Peoples user experiences may vary. But still commodities.
com·mod·i·ty
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noun: commodity; plural noun: commodities
If anything, you could say all Androids are commodities to each other. Even I don't believe that, but it's more relevant than saying iPhone (with iOS) is just like any Android.[/QUOTE]
By definition any smartphone is a commodity. Peoples user experiences may vary. But still commodities.
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noun: commodity; plural noun: commodities
- a raw material or primary agricultural product that can be bought and sold, such as copper or coffee.
synonyms: item, material, product, article, object; More
- a useful or valuable thing, such as water or time.
Only thing I’m complaining about is that this didn’t happen two years ago after they launched the USB-C only MBP.
Yeah, like iOS is a bragging right anymore. It’s not like iOS hasn’t been trashed by even the biggest Apple enthusiasts or anything.
Apple's EVERYTHING pricing is highway robbery.
The problem I see is at the other (no phone) end - the "old" USB cable connects to cars (for carplay), at airports, gym, a lot of home now have USB ports along with other device power plugs. So if I understand this correctly I wouldn't be able to plug my phone into the industry standard devices used for charging and CarPlay. I guess another several dongles required.
This will make me rethink Apple - they are making their product less useful rather than better. I don't care about fast charging.
This will make me rethink Apple - they are making their product less useful rather than better. I don't care about fast charging.
I'll defend Apple for a lot of things, but sticking with Lightning is not only stupid, it runs counter to the argument Apple gives for sticking only USB-C/TB3 ports on the Macbooks. How about putting a USB-C port on the iPhone, and then include a USB-C-to-Lightning adapter to let people keep using any Lightning accessories they might have?
Those are my thoughts as well. I left the Blackberry and picked up an iPhone 5. Loved it. I then bought the 5s. My favorite iPhone. Next purchase was the iPhone 6s. Apple pulled the plug on the headphone jack. I have not upgraded since. If Apple eliminates the jack in the SE I will look else when my 6s is unusable. Status symbols drive lots of buying decisions. It plays in Apple's favor.Only if we pay. If consumers would stop rewarding the "robbers," they would adapt toward delivering better value and/or lower pricing. As long as any company can do whatever they want and get rewarded with record after record after record in revenue & profits, the world tells that company it is doing a fantastic job, the executives at that company earn their fat bonuses, boss praises subordinates on another job well done, and so on.
Consumers hold the power. Even THAT company wants the money so badly they would adapt if consumers flexed the easy power of saying "No!" Instead, we generally buy anyway, maybe gripe about it some, then anxiously await the next time the corporation is ready for us to buy anyway again. And we do. Over and over and over again. At whatever price the corporation asks. With whatever changes- including some we might not like- the corp. decides to make for us. And some of us will then hop on boards like this gushing how great it all is and trying to convince everyone else and/or shout down any nay sayers speaking for themselves.
If you are a "robber" and your victims basically line up at 3am in the morning for you to rob them, pretty much begging you to do so, even striving to be "first!" to be "robbed" and racing to be first to post proof of the "robbery"... and then you get patted on the back for robbing them so well, and then the very same victims line up for you to do it all again and again, what do YOU do? "No, no, really, I don't want any more of your money... please, really, we have enough now... more than we know what to do with."
Yeah... Some whine even when there's potentially good news from Apple. A lot of unhealthy pent-up anger and unhappy unfulfilled lives.
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Same here- they lost my regular iDevice updates with that headphone jack decision. Now I cling to select aging Apple hardware because I don't want to juggle dongles, nor step down in audio quality for Bluetooth, nor carry along separate headphones for separate purposes. "Thinner & Lighter" achieved by shifting bulk into other parts that one needs to carry along to keep functionality that used to be inside doesn't seem quite right to me.
The fans will relentlessly argue about the other 2 options as "the future" but we all had access to both of those options in the iPhones that also had a headphone jack. So for any fans that believe that spin, they ALREADY had either option PLUS the most ubiquitous fallback of a headphone jack too. Lose or forget to charge "the future" and see if a flight attendant can sell you a temp replacement with Bluetooth or Lightning all this time later.
If Apple had opted to put Lightning in new products produced since, the Lightning choice would have seemed more legit. But they've kept the headphone jack in everything else. So the fans argue how antiquated and stupid that old jack is in ONE Apple product but you won't see any of them ripping into Apple for keeping it in everything else. Just fellow consumers are trolls & haters for faulting that decision in this ONE Apple product. But it's perfectly fine for Apple to opt to leave it in everything else.
Then, Apple rolls out a dedicated audio playing device- HomePod- without either Lightning OR Bluetooth (beyond setting it up). So even Apple doesn't seem to buy all "the future" spin themselves... except where it helps them sell products that lean on Bluetooth or Lightning. And yet, the fans will spin and spin and spin anyway about a decision that didn't affect them in the least if they actually believe their own spin. So all that spin is really only about endorsing taking a useful feature away from fellow consumers that enjoyed the utility of that benefit, built in instead of dongled out.
I still own a bunch of Apple stuff... make the bulk of my living on Macs, etc. But Apple needs to get back to being the Apple that won me over nearly 2 decades ago instead of increasingly seeming to be trending towards becoming a new Sony or similar, nickel & diming, etc. A crowd will happily accept the evolving Apple, thoroughly reward such decisions, and even evangelize the genius of such moves. But I still buy as a consumer first, and a brand loyalist, etc second+.
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Not trying to change the subject, or start a flame war, but I will mention in passing that the Honda Civic is available with leather and a sunroof.
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So, the status quo then? It was this way under Jobs too... and look at what they charge if you want to upgrade your HDD size or RAM amount, it's crazy and of course since everything is non-user replaceable, you're SOL if you don't have it done when ordering.
Where do I start with this? Android is an OS, not a hardware manufacturer (the closest you'll get to is probably Google, who are actually shipping pretty decent phones in my opinion. As much as I prefer iOS to Android I'm OK with admitting that Apple are quite stingy when it comes to the accessories. I wouldn't have minded a USB C cable at least for my iPhone X considering it cost me £1149.
Oh my goooooosh just freaking abandon Lightning already! How dumb are these Apple engineers??? Just give the iPhone USB-C!