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That power off function for the newer iPhones is odd. Don’t think that was done well. Amusing though that you’re reaching for such random arguments.




Nothing difficult to understand. For battery health, longevity and how 99% of users understand and charge their iPhones, a simple charger for overnight charging is sufficient. Though I do think 5W is on the low end. But something like a 20-30W charger would be overkill.



What’s funny is your inability to see outside of the MR niche bubble for what benefits the majority of users.
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Don’t forget to inform them of the impact to battery health when fast charging every single day.
Well I would assume majority of iPhones have been charged using the 5w charger. That hasn't seem to slow down battery degredation since Apple has been implementing updates to slow down one year old iPhones because of battery degredation.
 
I think Apple is planning to remove the USB port entirely. I actually think they wanted to do that this or last year, but held it back because of the AirPower not being ready soon enough.
That would not be a good idea to remove the USB port. I keep a cable in all of my vehicles to charge, when needed. Wireless charger is more practical for use at home, however, I would not keep one at employment, etc, as it tends to grow feet and runaway :eek:. In addition, I use a battery pack and bring with me under certain circumstance.
 
What’s funny is your inability to see outside of the MR niche bubble for what benefits the majority of users.
Yeah a fast charger in the box and a software button to toggle fast charging on and off is so anti-consumer.

But at least we have animojis, those definitely benefit the majority of users
 
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No, quite the opposite, very much active, young, part-time bodybuilder and LE Officer. Thanks for your input.
Don't see why a fast charger wouldn't be beneficial to you if what you say is true. I have been in many situations where I leave work, go home and get dressed in 45 mins and back on the road again. Having a fast charger to charge my phone in that 45 mins is vital.

Unless you're not a heavy user so a fully charged phone can last you 16 hours.
 
Don't see why a fast charger wouldn't be beneficial to you if what you say is true.

Because I don’t care, that’s why. I’m perfectly fine with the chargers that I have at home where I can plug my phone in and my battery level still sufficient when I take it off the charger. Then when I am inside my vehicle, I can simply use my 12 V charger. I have no issue with the current standard 5 W charger, and if I really was in need of a fast charger, I will happily purchase one separately, but that’s never been the situation for me. Again, everyone has different experiences, you have your situation where you find it useful, where I do not.
 
Yeah a fast charger in the box and a software button to toggle fast charging on and off is so anti-consumer.

When shipping ~200 million iPhones per year, seems like a waste to bundle an unnecessarily larger and faster charger. Bump it to 10W maybe since iPhone batteries seem to have roughly doubled over the past decade. What rate charger do you think it should be?
 
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When shipping ~200 million iPhones per year, seems like a waste to bundle an unnecessarily larger and faster charger. Bump it to 10W maybe since iPhone batteries seem to have roughly doubled over the past decade. What rate charger do you think it should be?
LoL what 200 million iphones? You are just deflecting now.
Who said they should bundle a +20W charger with very single iphone stating now?
 
LoL what 200 million iphones? You are just deflecting now.
Who said they should bundle a +20W charger with very single iphone stating now?

Do they not ship 200 million iPhones per year? I’m thinking about the ecological waste that will occur with unnecessarily larger packaging, product, etc.

Anyway, 10W I think would be good to bundle. Everyone seems to want fast charging, which isn’t anything specific. What do you think the included charger should be? 10W? 15W? 20W? 30W?
 
When shipping ~200 million iPhones per year, seems like a waste to bundle an unnecessarily larger and faster charger. Bump it to 10W maybe since iPhone batteries seem to have roughly doubled over the past decade. What rate charger do you think it should be?
10-12W would be reasonable.
 
I dare to say most people outside of MacRumors (me included) don't care about the charging speed. The phone is charged over night and that's it. Doesn't matter if it charges 50% of the battery in 30 minutes or in 2 hours. Even wireless charging is just a gimmick and I hardly know anyone who actually uses it regularly.
If they keep lightning for another year it'll be a bummer :/ I finally want the same port on every device just like Apple promised us years ago..
I love my wireless car charger. You throw your phone on it, takes half a second. Keeps navigation running forever. Also good at work allows me to answer my phone without disconnecting and reconecting wire. Less important for home.
 
Do they not ship 200 million iPhones per year?
So what? It definitely doesn't mean that they are going to sell 200 million iphones with a fast charger in the box in a year. This is what I meant, you just make an unnecessary remark.
Anyway this is how big a 40W charger is.
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Yeah so huge:rolleyes:
 
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This would possibly fit in with the rumor of Apple going to a 3 year cycle for redesigns instead of 2.
 
5W is so 2010. Even free phones from last several years come with 10W charger.
 
One of my peeves about the iPhone is that one can't insert an external SD memory card, which makes offloading GoPro photos much simpler, and since the advent of the 7 I can't use my Sennheiser headphones without a dongle. Apple has been successful in losing me as a customer for iPhones and MacBooks.
I would like the headphone jack back, but it’s nit the end of the world. What I want to see is an way to copy files (music, photos, video) back and forth to the iPhone without using iTunes.
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On iOS 12 it definitely is(taking in consideration how many tutorials there are online regarding this setting).
Settings/General/Accessibility/ Display Accommodations/Auto-brightness(on/off)
vs Android
Settings/Display/Auto-brightness(on/off)
There are also tutorials on how to turn off the iphone x. Amusing.
I guess we have different definitions on what complex means.
 
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Basically what you're saying is that Apple is right to provide a sub-par product because the customers are too dumb to know better. So why waste the money?

I'm sorry, but this is the most blind devotion to Apple I've ever seen. You'd rather see them add another dollar to their hundreds of billions than be given the same charger that every other manufacturer provides. I'm glad you like Apple so much.
I'm basically saying Apple can do whatever they want and you can choose not to buy it because of the charger or any other reason.

I'm a completely informed customer and a 5W charger is perfectly fine for me. Couldn't care less about having a faster charger because I charge at night like most people evidently do.

Again, if it were a huge issue/selling point, it would change.
 
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You don't absolutely NEED to plug it in, but that should be an option for tethering as a hot spot, transferring photos, or charging the phone without having a charger or spare power outlet available.
And if that’s an option you desire, nothing prevents you from doing that with the current models.
 
This will be a hard pass for me then. If they can release the new iPad with USB-C, they can surely do it with the iPhone now. It's ridiculous that the iPhones STILL only utilize USB 2.0 speeds regardless of cable used, while the iPad's lightning adapter has supported 3.0 since the release of the first Pro model. Absolutely no reason to keep on using Lightning since all their devices have shifted to USB-C.

Obviously we're still quite a few months away, so this can still be proven wrong.
 
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So what? It definitely doesn't mean that they are going to sell 200 million iphones with a fast charger in the box in a year. This is what I meant, you just make an unnecessary remark.
Anyway this is how big a 40W charger is.

Yeah so huge:rolleyes:

Yeah small steps.
Thta's the level of below 200$ cheap Android phones. It should be difficult for a company like Apple to match that.

It’s not an unnecessary remark. Being green, minimizing waste, helping to prolong the life of iPhones is all part of it. And what is so confusing to you about 200 million iPhones per year? Do they not ship 200 million per year? Those numbers are public. If you don’t understand the big picture here, you truly don’t understand Apple. This is not about liking Apple, or agreeing with what Apple does, but rather trying to understand and reason why Apple does something.

This will be my third time asking you now - what rate of charger do you think they should include in the box? Or are you going to deflect again and go on these useless tangents calling my posts unnecessary or wrong because you disagree with them?
 
I guess we have different definitions on what complex means.
Or we can look at it's most basic form, complex = complicated.
You can't claim that the Auto brightness setting is in a place that makes sense and it's easy to find for anybody(like on Android for example).

Very funny :D, I just searched for Turn off auto-brightness in Android on YouTube and most of the results than came back were about turning off this setting on iphones.
 
No! I will not buy the 2019 iPhone unless it has USB-C. This is absurd. Keeping Lightning is anti-consumer and isn't forward-thinking. I also can't fathom how it would be any more cost-effective, considering the $700 iPad Pro has it.
 
No, quite the opposite, very much active, young, part-time bodybuilder and LE Officer. Thanks for your input.
Sometimes the most idiotic things get said. And what you quoted was a fine example.
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Or we can look at it's most basic form, complex = complicated.
You can't claim that the Auto brightness setting is in a place that makes sense and it's easy to find for anybody(like on Android for example).

Very funny :D, I just searched for Turn off auto-brightness in Android on YouTube and most of the results than came back were about turning off this setting on iphones.
I can claim putting “bright” in the settings search brings one to the setting that manages it. So one doesn’t even have to know where it is.
 
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