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A fully loaded iPhone 7 Plus is $1326 (€1129) in EU, which means that the iPhone 8 will cost at least $1500 in EU.
This phone won't be very popular here, I'm pretty confident about that.
The price in € is way higher.
For example. iPhone 7: $749.00 in Europe €879.
MacBook Pro: $ 1199 (Amazon) in Europe €1499 same configuration
Always been like that. It should be a bit lower the the US price but that never happens.
 
Who are KGI Securities, who is Ming-Chi Kuo, how do they know this stuff and why don't Apple do something to stop them repeatedly revealing company secrets?
 
OH SNAp! You make a good point! They're having good deals on the 7 right now..maybe I should buy one
and then upgrade to the 8S next year?!!

It's going to be the standard by next year. I'm sure they'll keep a cheaper LCD iPhone under the SE label but they will probably make an iPhone 8/Pro and an iPhone 8s/Pro 2nd gen for sure. The iPhone is the only product now that doesn't have a "pro" version. I really think this could be the name. iMac Pro, iPad Pro, MacBook Pro, Mac Pro. iPhone Pro would bring uniformity to their nomenclature and hype the product more since everyone wants a "Pro" version.
 
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I’m very interested to see how Apple pitches this whole launching two generations at the same time thing. Obviously they have to show the 7s/7s Plus first and sell the upgrade over last year’s model, but then how do they segue into the iPhone Pro? “All that stuff was awesome, but forget that and check this out!”

The only thing the 7s/7s Plus will have going for them by the time Apple’s done showing off the iPhone Pro is that they are cheaper. They might as well just spend all the presentation time on the iPhone Pro and then say, “but if you can’t afford that, here’s a modest upgrade over last year.”

I’m probably over thinking it. Apple can and does release MacBooks and MacBook Pro’s at the same time and consumers understand what that means, it’s just the first time they’ve fragmented the iPhone lineup in such a way and I’m not sure the “pro” distinction is as necessary and obvious in the smartphone world.

Obviously this assumes that the high end iPhone will be called the iPhone Pro, but honestly I don’t think any other names makes sense at this point. Unless this is a one-off and won’t happen again, then it might be iPhone X or Anniversary Edition (think they might avoid the word ‘edition’ though...) or whatever, but there’s no way in hell that this will be called iPhone 8. That would only exacerbate this issue of releasing two generations at the same time.
Remember the announcement of the first retina Macbook Pro. Apple announced the upgraded "regular" Macbook Pro first before revealing the thinner retina version. I would say it would be similar to that.
 
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Remember the announcement of the first retina Macbook Pro. Apple announced the upgraded "regular" Macbook Pro first before revealing the thinner retina version. I would say it would be similar to that.

And I immediately drooled over that machine. No one had ever seen anything like it. I will never forget the first time I saw that 15" retina display in person. Worth every penny of the $2199 base price.
 
I don’t care about the back, what will the fronts look like on the silver and gold? Bezelless enough that it won’t have a ‘white’ front?

With the apparent redesign, it looks like the color on the front will be inconsequential, compared to previous iPhones. With OLED, black will probably be the best match from a aesthetic perspective.
 
I’ll buy whichever one has a black front bezel.

Unless... what if the notch is white but the status bar does a color matching so it’s also white with black text, could be interesting.

Nah, black front bezel or nothing.
 
I'll be getting the black 7s come Renew time late December. My 6s has been an awesome experience. Hoping for more of the same. :)
 
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If there has been late production it either points to a late technical issue that's just been resolved or a change in design.(probably due to technical issues)
 
It's going to be the standard by next year. I'm sure they'll keep a cheaper LCD iPhone under the SE label but they will probably make an iPhone 8/Pro and an iPhone 8s/Pro 2nd gen for sure. The iPhone is the only product now that doesn't have a "pro" version. I really think this could be the name. iMac Pro, iPad Pro, MacBook Pro, Mac Pro. iPhone Pro would bring uniformity to their nomenclature and hype the product more since everyone wants a "Pro" version.
There's no AppleWatch "Pro" ("Edition" doesn't count as "Pro").
 
Who are KGI Securities, who is Ming-Chi Kuo, how do they know this stuff and why don't Apple do something to stop them repeatedly revealing company secrets?

1. Ming-Chi Kuo is considered the most reliable Apple analyst in the world.

2. Because money. The U.S. can't even stop the leak of patriotic and strategic info like the W88 warhead and F-35. Leakers will always exist if there's money to be traded for information.
 
The copper color is nice, I hope it has a black front. The other photos I saw of these dummy models, only the jet black had the black front. The white borders around the screen looks so odd.
 
Meh, I always keep mine in a case. I don’t even realize that I am carrying the jet black version cause of that. So to me it won’t matter what the back looks like.
 
If Apple prices it too high, there's a good chance carriers and retailers will have to offer significant discounts, perhaps as soon as December to move stock. By February for sure.

You're assuming Apple intends to ever stock these with carriers. I wouldn't be surprised nor would I complain if these were available only in Apple stores.
 
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You're assuming Apple intends to ever stock these with carriers. I wouldn't be surprised nor would I complain if these were available only in Apple stores.

Until Apple runs its own wireless network, Apple relies on their carrier strategy. The majority of customers buy phones at their carrier.
 
Under dog way of thinking:
Samsung s8: fast charging cable + plug included in box


Accountant way of thinking:
iPhone 7s: fast charging sold separately
Pro-sumer way of thinking:
Apple: at least 5 years of software support, international warranty

Accountant way of thinking:
Samsung: Warranty only valid in country of origin, ~2 years of software support at best, same price as Apple

To each his own.
 
True, Apple including the fast charger would be nice but they'd have to increase the price..so I'm ok with
them not including it..and I use my iPad charger til a cheaper option arises.
Not everyone cares about fast charging..YOu charge it at night and most people probable will make it through the day and then connect it again at night..maybe thats what Apples thinking..maybe they're just greedy bastards! :)
Why would they have to increase the price? You keep addressing the consumer perspective with a business answer. Are you and Apple related somehow? Cousins maybe?:p:D We've already acknowledged that charging for the charger makes sense from a business perspective.

"Not everyone cares about..." could be used on every feature of the iPhone and it still wouldn't suffice as justification for anything really. If charging overnight was the only use case scenario, you might have a point. Since it obviously isn't, I'm sure you could come up with multiple instances where a fast charge would be an advantage.
 
You're assuming Apple intends to ever stock these with carriers. I wouldn't be surprised nor would I complain if these were available only in Apple stores.

I can definitely see Apple considering it, but they know they would have to justify that decision to their partners in crime (AT&T and Verizon in particular) before implementing it. Low stock and "temporary" exclusivity might work for a month or two, before the grumbling gets louder.
 
1. Ming-Chi Kuo is considered the most reliable Apple analyst in the world.

2. Because money. The U.S. can't even stop the leak of patriotic and strategic info like the W88 warhead and F-35. Leakers will always exist if there's money to be traded for information.

So MacRumors pay them?
 
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