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'Antennagate' Reactions: RIM, Nokia, Taiwanese Animation
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Can we all just get free bumpers
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Videos: death grip on EVO, Droid Incredible, Nexus One, Galaxy 1, G1, etc.
* http://www.metacafe.com/watch/yt-kFc..._with_droid_x/
* Samsung I9000 Galaxy S: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LROTHrTR92k
* HTC Evo Signal Attenuation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pj2YBYTbag
* Samsung Galaxy 1:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
* Samsung Galaxy 2:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPCQdYtPihg
* Droid Incredible: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaDE941PzQk
* Droid Incredible (With Network Extender in Room): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpEQH...eature=related
* Nexus One: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEIA_lMwqJA
* Nexus One vs. iPhone (start at 1:29): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvMoV4_C4aA
* http://www.metacafe.com/watch/yt-kFc..._with_droid_x/
* Nexus One: http://posterous.com/getfile/files.p...n_-_iPhone.m4v
* Nexus One (after Google's update to correct): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2g5J4qPp54
* Nexus One: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deCkjeHYT-g
* Android G1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CDaxhjUs9M
* "Major signal degradation when Nexus One is picked up" (N1 Thread on On this Problem): http://www.google.com/support/forum/...9184c33e&hl=en
Listen fanboi why do you persist to cut and paste these links? For the last time you don't need any 'death grip' to drop the signal on the iFail 4, just a finger tip bridging the gap. NOW MOVE ON, THIS IS A SERIOUS HARDWARE DESIGN FAULT!
Listen fanboi why do you persist to cut and paste these links? For the last time you don't need any 'death grip' to drop the signal on the iFail 4, just a finger tip bridging the gap. NOW MOVE ON, THIS IS A SERIOUS HARDWARE DESIGN FAULT!
This is a troll. Please don't feed it. Trolls tend to move on when denied attention. This troll will probably respond to this post. If it does, please ignore it. It can't hurt you. It's just a troll.
Thank you.
I read that, I think it's garbage. No lawsuit doesn't mean Nokia agree with what Apple stated. End of story.
It's a troll indeed, it's pure flamebait, but it's true. iPhone 4 requires 1 finger, the tip only actually, pressed at a precise spot very lightly. Other phones require cupping.
But you can't explain why they are not asking for a retraction and have not denied the truth of the statements Jobs made? Or can you but don't want to tell us?
BTW, 'End of story' is a great way to avoid being humble enough to admit that someone who you don't agree with might have a point. Come on, no one is going to think any the worse of you if you just give a little nod and admit that Apple didn't lie and, if they had, Nokia would say so and ask for a retraction.
Sorry - just saw your edit. I have an iPhone 4 and the issue only happens if I cup the phone tightly. One finger wont do it. Having said that, it would be hard to know where on any other phone the weak spot is. It also happens on a Nokia I have for work.
If touching the iPhone in a particular place stops it from working, then why do you touch it there? Especially if you _know_ about it? It seems that anybody who wants to make phone calls with the iPhone can do so with no problems, and anybody who wants to find a reason to moan about Apple can do so as well. And the same seems to be true for RIM and Nokia, except anybody who noticed that you can drop the phone line by holding those phones in the wrong place stopped doing it and got on with their lives.
And in other news, a man who was unable to read his emails when holding his iPhone 4 back to front was outraged when an Applecare representative informed him that he was 'holding it wrong'.
If you don't want an iPhone don't buy it
If you buy one and don't want it , take it back
going on week 3 waiting list 16 gig iPhone NJ Apple store
owner of Original iPhone, 3G iphone, 3GS, and HTC evo..... iPhone 4G pending
If you buy one and don't want it , take it back
going on week 3 waiting list 16 gig iPhone NJ Apple store
owner of Original iPhone, 3G iphone, 3GS, and HTC evo..... iPhone 4G pending
Defamation is not frivolous.
If the company was libeled or slandered they will sue.
Your conclusions are based in fallacy and you are misinformed.
While I do understand Nokia and RIM's reaction, their comments on design are somewhat hilarious.
RIM: "RIM has avoided designs like the one Apple used in the iPhone 4 and instead has used innovative designs which reduce the risk for dropped calls, especially in areas of lower coverage."
Innovated how? They've been making the same basic thick, plastic, PDA-style rounded phones since the beginning.
Nokia: "As you would expect from a company focused on connecting people, we prioritize antenna performance over physical design if they are ever in conflict."
Same with Nokia.
Judging the the design of both their current line-ups, I don't think either one has had too many conflicts between physical design and antenna performance.
Were we ever going to see anything like the original iPhone much less the iPhone 4 from RIM or Nokia? Absolutely not.
RIM: "RIM has avoided designs like the one Apple used in the iPhone 4 and instead has used innovative designs which reduce the risk for dropped calls, especially in areas of lower coverage."
Innovated how? They've been making the same basic thick, plastic, PDA-style rounded phones since the beginning.
Nokia: "As you would expect from a company focused on connecting people, we prioritize antenna performance over physical design if they are ever in conflict."
Same with Nokia.
Judging the the design of both their current line-ups, I don't think either one has had too many conflicts between physical design and antenna performance.
Were we ever going to see anything like the original iPhone much less the iPhone 4 from RIM or Nokia? Absolutely not.
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Here's a thought...
Where should they put the 'weak spot' on iPad 2?
I don't think there is enough 'electrical length' to but everything at the top.
Where should they put the 'weak spot' on iPad 2?
I don't think there is enough 'electrical length' to but everything at the top.
Truth. Rim wishes they were getting the attention that Apple is. Antennagate is blow way out of proportion.
I don't. I have no intention of buying one. I'm lefthanded. When I hold an iPhone most comfortably and securely my hand is in contact with that corner.
As an Apple customer, I don't appreciate Apple lying to me. That's all.
And in other news, a man who was unable to read his emails when holding his iPhone 4 back to front was outraged when an Applecare representative informed him that he was 'holding it wrong'.
There are few places where the definition of "troll" is broader than in the Apple community. Apple could remove the display from the MacBook Pro, people would ask "hey where'd the display go??" and you'd be right here going "Don't feed the display trolls".
this nokia?
"Nokia launched a new legal complaint against Apple May 7, alleging that the iPad and iPhone violate five of its patents. This is the newest round in a battle that has seen the two companies fire off multiple patent-infringement suits over the past year, and the latest twist suggests there will be no firm and speedy resolution. "
would that be the Nokia that doesn't do lawsuits? it's called business. Of course if they thought Apple was being libelous they would call Apple on it. Don't mistake civil lawsuit patterns with commercial.
Agreed. But on the other hand the same could be said for the definition of 'fanboi'. I define a troll as anyone who consistently engages in behaviour that is clearly designed to anger people and does not add to the debate. Banging on about something long after any useful discussion has been had is clearly designed to piss people off and gets in the way of new debates and discussions.
By removing the display from a laptop you save half of the weight making it much more portable. You don't think innovatively. You live in a world where an old display is still needed. Those have been around for tens of years. This is the future. Think outside the box. Be the display.
That was just one of my points. In isolation, maybe, but their statements basically said that Apple was correct but they didn't like Apple bringing them into it. If Apple were wrong these companies would have said so. If they were lying, that means the video of the bars dropping on competitors devices had been faked. Major deception. Nokia even stated in their response that it was a problem. Please lets not get pedantic over syntax or whatever. Did Apple lie or not? Is this an issue on other devices or not? Going by Apple's statements and their competitors response, the answer seems clear that Apple did not lie and it is a problem on other devices. What more is there to say unless you think differently?
