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Yes I can do all of that. At setup with a new Windows machine you can install and set it up just like any of the others. And Windows will keep everything in synch. You really should get out more. And I have many hobbies and I am a artist. I love painting. And I am in good company here in this thread. I would suggest that you get another hobby than being a fanboy for Apple and perhaps a different perspective on how the world works. You came into a thread where people who use Apple products are expressing their own actual experiences and disappointment and started a fan boy attack.

If you are not having any problems and are content that is all you needed to say: "I'm not jumping ship because Apple is working for me." as an example. For my part I love computers and I like MacOS. I also enjoy my iPad pro. I do Linux from time to time as well. I don't have to "jump ship" because I am on many different ports. But I still recognize all of the issues surrounding the new Macs.

I found the first person on the planet that thinks Microsoft restores as well as Apple. Too funny.
 
Yes I can do all of that. At setup with a new Windows machine you can install and set it up just like any of the others. And Windows will keep everything in synch. You really should get out more. And I have many hobbies and I am a artist. I love painting. And I am in good company here in this thread. I would suggest that you get another hobby than being a fanboy for Apple and perhaps a different perspective on how the world works. You came into a thread where people who use Apple products are expressing their own actual experiences and disappointment and started a fan boy attack.

If you are not having any problems and are content that is all you needed to say: "I'm not jumping ship because Apple is working for me." as an example. For my part I love computers and I like MacOS. I also enjoy my iPad pro. I do Linux from time to time as well. I don't have to "jump ship" because I am on many different ports. But I still recognize all of the issues surrounding the new Macs.

Both operating systems are great in my mind. I prefer Apple hardware thats all.

And all these anecdotal stories are so funny. In the office I do some work in now [all PC] out of a total of about 8 machines they have opened up and spent hours fixing at least 3 since I have been there [all 12 weeks of it.......]. I just sit back and laugh to myself how screwed up it all is.
So PC's are rubbish and Macs are great [this is a joke btw for those who take things too seriously.........]
 
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We can't be the same. I'm answering iMessages and SMS texts on my laptop while air playing video to my 65" tv.

Also given that my world doesn't revolve around text messages I feel no envy about iMessage. What I do enjoy is doing 3D creation (3D studio Max) and painting using Corel Painter. I prefer Roku as it has everything that streaming has to offer rather than using closed systems such as Apple and Google.

And yes I could stream all my devices (except Apple) to my TV.... All of them Windows and Android. There is nothing magical about Air play. You would know that if you stepped out of your Apple world from time to time.
 
Also given that my world doesn't revolve around text messages I feel no envy about iMessage. What I do enjoy is doing 3D creation (3D studio Max) and painting using Corel Painter. I prefer Roku as it has everything that streaming has to offer rather than using closed systems such as Apple and Google.

And yes I could stream all my devices (except Apple) to my TV.... All of them Windows and Android. There is nothing magical about Air play. You would know that if you stepped out of your Apple world from time to time.

Just because you don't find iMessage and sms handy doesn't mean everyone else doesnt. Many vendors and contractors text me, so full integration on macos is brilliant.

Yeah you can use Roku. It's also garbage. Not as reliable. Laggy. Many systems can do mirroring but none are as fast or reliable as airplay.
 
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I've done countless Mac, iPad, and iPhone restores to new devices. Flawless every time.

Windows? Good luck. Rolling the dice every time.

I had 100% failure rate with timemachine mounted over network share. I think it was about maximum of a week long the sparsebundle went without getting corrupted. And then you had to restart the TM which doesn't take 45 minutes to make a full backup again, but rather half a day. Had to switch to Acronis (on a Mac). I don't use Windows built in backup tools, there are other, way more powerful than TimeMachine.

Try this with your Macbook - restore the timemachine backup to external SSD and then swap it with the internal one. Let us know how it went.
 
I had 100% failure rate with timemachine mounted over network share. I think it was about maximum of a week long the sparsebundle went without getting corrupted. And then you had to restart the TM which doesn't take 45 minutes to make a full backup again, but rather half a day. Had to switch to Acronis (on a Mac). I don't use Windows built in backup tools, there are other, way more powerful than TimeMachine.

Try this with your Macbook - restore the timemachine backup to external SSD and then swap it with the internal one. Let us know how it went.

I don't need to swap ssds.

Also not sure what to tell you on networked time machine. I wouldn't work with 500gigs of data on slow wifi. Waste of time.
 
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I don't need to swap ssds.
You don't have a choice, you cannot swap them even if you wanted to.
Also not sure what to tell you on networked time machine. I wouldn't work with 500gigs of data on slow wifi. Waste of time.
There are other networking solutions fully capable of saturating USB 3.1 Gen2 bandwidth, although I understand you may not be aware of them living entirely in Apple world.
iCloud is basically one or two suggestions like factory reset then try again. Why? Because it works! Yay!

Nothing more amazing then getting a new device, doing one last manual backup on the old, then configuring the new one to be identical. Total time? Minutes.
So let me get this straight, backup over WiFi is a waste of time, but to iCloud is super duper fast. Minutes. Do you even know how that works?
Then you have the money grabbing office of course. Please pay us for minor changes. The average user doesn't need a stupid 365 sub or a new office suite every other year.
If the average user does something more than iMessages and watching movies they kind of do need it. Besides, the cheapest 365 plan is $10 a month and comes with 1TB cloud storage. To match this with iCloud you need 2TB plan that also costs $10/month and gives you only storage, no additional software. Which one is a money grab?
 
Have you used many laptops in the last 10 years? They're mostly trash. By year 3, they are starting to seriously show their age both physically and in performance.

The whining about the keyboard, which is easily replaceable, and the over blown flex gate issue is about all that's come out of Apple in the last few years regarding their laptops.

Just a few in the last 30 years on engineering projects globally, equally all high tier systems. MBP keyboard is a joke and a refection of Apple's general lack of investment in the Mac. I've never seen so many professional's dump the Mac as it has become more and more a stylised lifestyle product not a professional tool. Those that rely on their hardware for a living have little tolerance for such nonsense.

I tend to be $2.5K upwards for a notebook regardless of OS, switching hardware to suit the project. A full loaded Portable Workstation will run you around $15K. Sorry MacBook's don't make the cut professionally now, being underpowered, port constrained, lacking usability, worst of all unreliable - 3 years in and the Butterfly keyboard still remains to be a problem solely due to Apple's hubris. Anyone thinking different is sadly misled. Multinational corporations do not put extended warranty plans in place costing millions USD due to a few failed units, they do to protect themselves from legal action that will potentially be far more punitive, Apple has a long history of this with the MBP...

There's a reason why so few professional's use the Mac these days and Apple is actively driving the few of us who still do away, barring those locked into IOS development. What amuses me is Apple is so clearly desperate to associate the MBP with professional's levering the "Halo" effect to the full, in order to make it's base customer's feel better about Apple's expensive computing line up.

Apple has an opportunity with the upcoming 9th Gen Intel CPU's to redeem itself in many professional communities or it can do the same again and present another "pig with lipstick". Right now Apple is just becoming a laughingstock in many communities where it was once thought so highly of...

FWIW I've over two decades with the Mac, others far more
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Your definition of “easily replaceable” is quite interesting. By this measure every problem plaguing the current MBP lineup (you missed some, like SSDs and screen coating) can be classified as ‘easy’ because it requires replacement of half of the computer.

I'd like to see this "easy" replaceable MBP keyboard done on YouTube, as even the Apple Store's struggle to do it in a timely manner. Likely the design of the Butterfly was to reduce chassis height and save Apple production cost, only it has massively backfired as Apple was too cheap to fully qualify the keyboard.

SSD's on the main board effectively kills the MBP for any professional use where NDA is enforce as one is compelled to scrap the unit. If anyone can decrypt the drives, it will be the originator, clients are not interested in why's or wherefores they expect security of the data, and adherence to contract...

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@SDColorado.. do you want to whip out your two dells from early 2000s?:p:p

My oldest working computer is from 2K and that's an old Hewlett-Packard, found it last year in one of the outhouses at our farm in a plastic bag. Plugged it in and it booted up, not bad for something abandoned years ago.

Oldest I have with me locally are again is a HP DV2 circa 2008 and an Early 2008 15" MBP. IMHO the great longevity of Mac's is mostly Smoke & Mirrors. Yes $400 notebooks don't last, match dollar for dollar and PC OEM notebooks easily stand up to the test of time.

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I found the first person on the planet that thinks Microsoft restores as well as Apple. Too funny.

More a statement of your lack of knowledge, nothing else. I can restore my primary workstation in a matter of minutes, I simply use the tools that Microsoft provides, I can do the same with a Mac, although I need to use a 3rd party solution to be as effective.

W10 is far more stable than macOS currently is and is getting better as time progresses. I don't care for the aesthetic, equally the OS does not interfere with my workflow and that's what counts. All your doing is illustrating your lack of knowledge with people who use both platforms professionally.

Both W10 & macOS have positives and negatives, that equally benefit and conflict with users workflow, however if one is willing to learn the best can be levered from both operating systems. If macOS was superior for my needs I'd be replying on it, as to why ask Apple...

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For the first time since 2003, I am strongly considering a slow withdrawal from the Apple ecosystem... and not because of my 2018 MacBook Pro. It has been absolutely flawless and I love the keyboard. The issue as I see it is that Apple software, from my iPhone X to my iPad Pro, and even my Apple TV is flawed and is buggy significantly more than I ever remember. I am not exaggerating when I say that I reboot my iPhone X at least once every three days because of funky behavior, and this is down from THREE times a day from the previous software releases. My Apple TV is ridden with bugs and I have unplugged it twice in the past week because of strange behaviors. Frankly, I am getting tired of the issues, and while I do not know if this is related to Jobs no longer running the company, it “feels” like it is. I am more unhappy with Apple than I ever remember being.

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Completely agree with Joe. 10 or even 5 years ago, I would have never second guessed the benefit of being a Mac user, but I’ve had about enough of Apple and their “ecosystem”. It was a solid investment when their quality was top notch, but now one thing breaks 18 months in, and suddenly, you’re replacing 3 others. And the amount of money I’ve had to spend simply to duplicate functionality that I already enjoyed is bordering on absurd. You used to pay an “Apple tax” for the logo, but now you’re paying for the logo, the dongles, the adaptors, and the peripherals and no longer assuming that they’ll “just work”, but praying that they’ll just work at all. (Spoiler: they won’t.)

I have the current top of the line MBP and all the imaginable trimmings. But honestly if I could do it again, at this point, I would probably just go back to Windows and figure out how to make the most of Surface. The few moments I had testing out a Surface Studio were the most magical I’ve had on a computer since I unpacked my first iMac 15 years ago. I just couldn’t believe how much thought Microsoft had put into it. Windows is still flawed, but Microsoft’s ambitions for it are a lot more like Apple’s used to be before they became complacent selling overpriced phones to rich teenagers and forgot they made anything else.

Overall, unless you really, really love Keynote or are absolately married to Messages, there’s no longer a meaningful advantage to owing a Mac. You’re mostly just (over) paying for a comfortable nostalgia.
 
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Completely agree with Joe. 10 or even 5 years ago, I would have never second guessed the benefit of being a Mac user, but I’ve had about enough of Apple and their “ecosystem”. It was a solid investment when their quality was top notch, but now one thing breaks 18 months in, and suddenly, you’re replacing 3 others. And the amount of money I’ve had to spend simply to duplicate functionality that I already enjoyed is bordering on absurd. You used to pay an “Apple tax” for the logo, but now you’re paying for the logo, the dongles, the adaptors, and the peripherals and no longer assuming they they’ll “just work”, but praying that they’ll just work at all. (Spoiler: they won’t.)

I have the current top of the line MBP and all the imaginable trimmings. But honestly if I could do it again, at this point, I would probably just go back to Windows and figure out how to make the most of Surface. The few moments I had testing out a Surface Studio were the most magical I’ve had on a computer since I unpacked my first iMac 15 years ago. I just couldn’t believe how much thought Microsoft had put into it. Windows is still flawed, but Microsoft’s ambitions for it are a lot more like Apple’s used to be before they became complacent selling overpriced phones to rich teenagers and forgot they made anything else.

Overall, unless you really, really love Keynote or are absolately married to Messages, there’s no longer a meaningful advantage to owing a Mac. You’re mostly just (over) paying for a comfortable nostalgia.

Or you prefer the overall interface and working inside MacOS. And you don't need that idiotic half laptop/half tablet setup. Touch screen on a full blown laptop is pointless. Not to mention tablet mode in windows is a joke.
 

I'm not a fanboy of Windows or Microsoft by any means, I am a fan of what works and credit where credit is due. Given a choice I'd be on Linux, however I'd be compelled to virtualise W10 or macOS.

Exactly what Apple wants clueless with a credit line, even Apple has to accept it's own flaws, especially on the end of losing in a court of law. People are fully entitled to be angry as switching platforms can cost literally $100's of thousands due to Apple's sheer incompetence.

Apple pushed myself and many others out solely due to not being capable of delivering. I can break OS X systematically as can my colleagues within 3-5 days on multiple Mac's all with clean installs of the OS. One friend who is a self proclaimed Apple fan, owning all Apple produces. Yet he's now too moved to W10 professionally for exactly the same reasons. Apple want's the respect of it's professional user Apple needs to get it's act together simple as that.

Once I would have unreservedly recommended the Mac regardless of cost as the value was very apparent, today not a chance as the Apple has indeed fallen very far form the tree...

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I'm not a fanboy of Windows or Microsoft by any means, I am a fan of what works and credit where credit is due. Given a choice I'd be on Linux, however I'd be compelled to virtualise W10 or macOS.

Exactly what Apple wants clueless with a credit line, even Apple has to accept it's own flaws, especially on the end of losing in a court of law. People are fully entitled to be angry as switching platforms can cost literally $100's of thousands due to Apple's sheer incompetence.

Apple pushed myself and many others out solely due to not being capable of delivering. I can break OS X systematically as can my colleagues within 3-5 days on multiple Mac's all with clean installs of the OS. One friend who is a self proclaimed Apple fan, owning all Apple produces. Yet he's now too moved to W10 professionally for exactly the same reasons. Apple want's the respect of it's professional user Apple needs to get it's act together simple as that.

Once I would have unreservedly recommended the Mac regardless of cost as the value was very apparent, today not a chance as the Apple has indeed fallen very far form the tree...

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So have you or anyone else in here ever reached out to Apple? Submitted feedback or emails addressing concerns on issues? How about the numerous Mac sites and magazines where you can submit letters or even submit "open letters to Apple" that they publish?

Basically have any of the haters here spent even a fraction of the energy contacting Apple as they have spent whining here to strangers on the internet?
 
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So have you or anyone else in here ever reached out to Apple? Submitted feedback or emails addressing concerns on issues? How about the numerous Mac sites and magazines where you can submit letters or even submit "open letters to Apple" that they publish?

Basically have any of the haters here spent even a fraction of the energy contacting Apple as they have spent whining her to strangers on the internet?

A call should be enough. I've called like 5 or 6 times because my Macbook Pro's speakers were popping. I got 3 replacements that all had the same problem. They said they registered the issue and moved it over to engineering only to read 2 weeks later on these forums that someone else is calling for the same problem and Apple tells the issue is not in their system. And now 5 months later, people are still having issues with popping / crackling speakers. Apple doesn't give a ****, in your world they might, but in reality they don't. Besides, why would I write an essay to a random website to get Apple's ass into gear? They don't read it, they don't care. They just open up a replacement program for 3 years and call it a day.
 
A call should be enough. I've called like 5 or 6 times because my Macbook Pro's speakers were popping. I got 3 replacements that all had the same problem. They said they registered the issue and moved it over to engineering only to read 2 weeks later on these forums that someone else is calling for the same problem and Apple tells the issue is not in their system. And now 5 months later, people are still having issues with popping / crackling speakers. Apple doesn't give a ****, in your world they might, but in reality they don't. Besides, why would I write an essay to a random website to get Apple's ass into gear? They don't read it, they don't care. They just open up a replacement program for 3 years and call it a day.

No, a call isn't enough. A call isn't enough for major issues at your own corporate job, so why would it be when contacting a company like Apple?

"Besides, why would I write an essay to a random website to get Apple's ass into gear?" Easy. exposure. Far more people read those things than they do this forum. When issues gain serious traction, they get addressed.

So again, I recommend people spending a bit more time typing to Apple then typing here. Whining here accomplishes nothing.
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No, a call isn't enough. A call isn't enough for major issues at your own corporate job, so why would it be when contacting a company like Apple?

"Besides, why would I write an essay to a random website to get Apple's ass into gear?" Easy. exposure. Far more people read those things than they do this forum. When issues gain serious traction, they get addressed.

So again, I recommend people spending a bit more time typing to Apple then typing here. Whining here accomplishes nothing.

Imagine at your "corporate job" a customer calls with a huge issue with your product, you're also going to discard it? Let them write an essay first, right?

I'm a customer of Apple, not a quality control engineer, I think paying $3000 for a product is enough to expect quality.
What you think is needed in addition to that is absolutely hilarious and sad at the same time.
 
Imagine at your "corporate job" a customer calls with a huge issue with your product, you're also going to discard it? Let them write an essay first, right?

I'm a customer of Apple, not a quality control engineer, I think paying $3000 for a product is enough to expect quality.
What you think is needed in addition to that is absolutely hilarious and sad at the same time.

You aren't calling with a "huge issue." You're one of millions of customers calling with an issue. Not every support call is worthy of an escalation.

Now if you and 10,000 other people call with the same issue, then sure we'll escalate.

What you think is needed in addition to that is absolutely hilarious and sad at the same time.

So basically your argument comes from a source of entitlement and the thought of spending a bit of energy to reach out to them is preposterous?

It's incredible how many hours you'll spend here complaining, where it doesn't mean anything, yet you won't make formal submissions to Apple. Outstanding!
 
Basically have any of the haters here spent even a fraction of the energy contacting Apple as they have spent whining here to strangers on the internet?
Stop with the name-calling. They're not "haters", they are paying customers. They're not "whining", they're expressing concern and disappointment at the state of Mac hardware.

For many people, including myself, there is a strong emotional attachment to Apple. I've been using their products for a quarter of a century and to see such shoddy design and reliability issues right across the Mac line makes me despair, especially when the only viable OS alternative is Windows.

It's great that Apple meets your needs and you love your devices, but spare a thought for those who have had multiple repairs (failing graphics cards in the Mac Pro, persistent keyboard issues and screen ribbon cables breaking in the MacBook line, coil whine and thermal throttling etc) on products that are as expensive as the industry has to offer. No amount of writing to Apple is going to fix what are basically devices that have multiple points of failure baked into their form-over-function design. Customers who have paid thousands on these machines (and depend on them for their income) are not "whiners" and deserve better.
 
You aren't calling with a "huge issue." You're one of millions of customers calling with an issue. Not every support call is worthy of an escalation.

Now if you and 10,000 other people call with the same issue, then sure we'll escalate.



So basically your argument comes from a source of entitlement and the thought of spending a bit of energy to reach out to them is preposterous?

It's incredible how many hours you'll spend here complaining, where it doesn't mean anything, yet you won't make formal submissions to Apple. Outstanding!

I did, I called for hours with them. "Source of entitlment" by paying $3000, yes I think so. Just read what you're actually saying. Just stop and read and think for a minute. It will help you. Don't reply, just think. Now if you're a troll, you've done well, I applaud you.

I returned my Macbook already thankfully.
 
I did, I called for hours with them. "Source of entitlment" by paying $3000, yes I think so. Just read what you're actually saying. Just stop and read and think for a minute. It will help you. Don't reply, just think. Now if you're a troll, you've done well, I applaud you.

I returned my Macbook already thankfully.

You paid $3k? Wow amazing! I paid $35k for a vehicle and had to follow up on issues. By the way, I always contacted their corporate headquarters and got major follow-up and resolution. Does that mean my vehicle is more important because it's more expensive? No
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Stop with the name-calling. They're not "haters", they are paying customers. They're not "whining", they're expressing concern and disappointment at the state of Mac hardware.

For many people, including myself, there is a strong emotional attachment to Apple. I've been using their products for a quarter of a century and to see such shoddy design and reliability issues right across the Mac line makes me despair, especially when the only viable OS alternative is Windows.

It's great that Apple meets your needs and you love your devices, but spare a thought for those who have had multiple repairs (failing graphics cards in the Mac Pro, persistent keyboard issues and screen ribbon cables breaking in the MacBook line, coil whine and thermal throttling etc) on products that are as expensive as the industry has to offer. No amount of writing to Apple is going to fix what are basically devices that have multiple points of failure baked into their form-over-function design. Customers who have paid thousands on these machines (and depend on them for their income) are not "whiners" and deserve better.

People experience problems with everything on the planet. It doesn't mean every single issue is a widespread, life ending problem.

Yes, it is whining when people complain and never take the time to reach out to the only people on the planet that could actually fix it. In fact, you're doing a disservice to other customers by not making a huge deal out of it. If everyone has the same mentality of "Apple will never care!" then yeah they aren't going to do anything when NO ONE IS REACHING OUT.
 
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