Mmmmmmm I'm running iOS 7… and it's jailbroken. Not gonna update to iOS 8 until it's stable and jailbroken. It hurts you to read this, doesn't it?
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Apple Ceases Signing iOS 7.1.2, Downgrading No Longer Possible
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Mmmmmmm I'm running iOS 7… and it's jailbroken. Not gonna update to iOS 8 until it's stable and jailbroken. It hurts you to read this, doesn't it?
Yet I can install any OS I want going back to Snow Leopard on my 2009 MBP. In Apple's effort to have the highest possible install base of the latest iOS version they've become control freaks.
A message that warns you of the significant incompatibilities when installing older iOS versions should suffice.
The iOS 8 animations are optimized for the newer hardware. iPad 3 had the disadvantage of having an underpowered processor/graphics chip to power it's extremely high resolution. This was fixed with the A6... more then doubling its power. The A5X wasn't nearly enough to power that kind of resolution, so the iPad 2 (at its lower resolution) often feels faster then the iPad 3 which is dedicating all its resources to displaying that retina display.
I tried 8.0 for a few days and noticed no app notifications were coming through for any apps. I went back to 7.1.2 where I will stay till there is a jalibreak.
Until iOS can block ads in apps and in my browser, I will remain with whatever iOS version can be jailbroken.
Until iOS can block ads in apps and in my browser, I will remain with whatever iOS version can be jailbroken.
You mean the animations of quitting an app, or entering an app switcher? Because they seem identical to me in every way except now they're extremely choppy. Apparently even the Air has some of these problems.
Even my iPhone 4 is smoother than my iPad 3 now. I don't see how it's so complicated to optimize for iPad 3 if the animations are the same as iOS 7 and iOS7 was smooth as butter. If this isn't improved by iOS 8.1, it's just BS.
But they're still signing iOS 7, for the iPhone 4, since the iPhone 4 can't run iOS 8. Well neither can the iPhone 4S, in practice. So they should keep signing it for the 4S as well, not just the 4. The 4S should not be able to run iOS 8 and the only reason they stopped signing iOS 7 for it is because "in theory" you could install iOS 8 on the device, so why support iOS 7. But in practice the people who are the most likely to upgrade to iOS 8 and then immediately want to downgrade to iOS 7 are the 4S users. And they're the only ones who need to but can't. iPhone 4 users are fine since they are forced to stick with iOS 7, and iPhone 5 users are fine since they can run iOS 8 just fine.
Apple should either remotely disable all iPhone 4Ss with a message saying "please buy a new phone" or keep supporting it as best as it can. Sure I can stick with iOS 7 but I want to know what in the future I can always keep sticking with that and I won't ever have to deal with what happened to my iPod Touch back in the day, when I stupidly upgraded by accident and then had to sell it because it became so slow and useless. This is not a fragmentation issue, because the people using old devices are either going to use the old iOS, or they're just not going to use their device at all. If they could afford a new device they'd have gotten one already. You often can't even install new apps on old iOS versions, which means developers aren't even supporting old versions as it is. Just because there are people running iOS 6 doesn't mean developers have to support iOS 6: all new apps have "Requires iOS 7 or later" as a requirement.
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I find it funny how people now are claiming how great iOS7 is and they want to stick with it. Remember last year? The same story happened, except it was iOS6 that people were sticking with and that they don't want to update to iOS7.Funny how things go.
On the other hand, there is really no excuse for Apple to screw up 8.0.1. I mean seriously. First, this is not Apple's first attempt at mobile OS. If it was version 1 or 2, sure, but this is version 8. Second, this is not like Android/Windows, where there are gazillion of hardware configurations that have to be considered. Apple has only few hardware that they control themselves. It's like Sony having software updates that brick Playstations. There is really no excuses, other than laziness/ignorance/oversight.
At the same time, it is always wise to not jump to a major new OS update right away. (except for 8.0.1, where the "update" screwing things up). Personally, I usually wait until a second update or later before I update my primary devices. Same thing with OS X.
Nobody's saying "iOS 7 was great", it's that iOS 8 is so bad in a number of key respects it makes iOS 7 look good. And there was never as much controversy about iOS 6 generally as there was with iOS 7. Sure, the Maps thing was a big dumb story in the MSM, but iOS 7 was for too many people just "ugh".
As for your comments about Windows: Microsoft doesn't maintain the hardware drivers for Windows, the hardware companies do, Apple needs to incorporate and optimize Mac OS driver updates for its systems by itself, so your point is moot.
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I'm sure if you had your way everyone would be forced to wear flared trousers too.
No. I don't like flared trousers.
https://www.apple.com/feedback/
Everyone who thinks this is an issue should give feedback asking Apple to keep the iOS 7.1.2 signing window open, at least until iOS 8.1 is out. They'll probably ignore us, but at least they'll get a sense of how many people they're ignoring.
Everyone who thinks this is an issue should give feedback asking Apple to keep the iOS 7.1.2 signing window open, at least until iOS 8.1 is out. They'll probably ignore us, but at least they'll get a sense of how many people they're ignoring.
Loving my Iphone 4S with iOS6, theres nothing in the new iOS that makes me want to change, I'm really not that bothered in having the latest phone, I mean do you use it or show it? The 4s makes calls and is fine for email etc. I guess I'm no fashion victim.
And what if people don't want to run the latest OS...
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You are never told when buying the iPhone or iPad that if you upgrade the iOS you can never revert back if things go wrong.
You should always be able to restore the iPhone or iPad to ORIGINAL factory settings. Regardless of what iOS version it originally shipped with.
If the latest Apps don't work that is the choice of the customer. The make that choice fully aware of the facts unlike now.
Now I see why, customer choice. Seems it's not allowed in the iOS world but is for OSX? Apple logic. iOs users should be granted the same range of choices that OSX user currently have. Although with 2 versions that will probably disappear as well.
You should always be able to restore the iPhone or iPad to ORIGINAL factory settings. Regardless of what iOS version it originally shipped with.
If the latest Apps don't work that is the choice of the customer. The make that choice fully aware of the facts unlike now.
Now I see why, customer choice. Seems it's not allowed in the iOS world but is for OSX? Apple logic. iOs users should be granted the same range of choices that OSX user currently have. Although with 2 versions that will probably disappear as well.
iOS (7 & 8) can do that with the help of an app called Disconnect Mobile which with it's Basic pack stops mobile tracking and with the additional Malvertising filter pack installed takes care of them annoying ads.
iOS (7 & 8) can do that with the help of an app called Disconnect Mobile which with it's Basic pack stops mobile tracking and with the additional Malvertising filter pack installed takes care of them annoying ads.
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can it reduce the kelvins on the screen so i can sleep at nite? Like on any normal mac/PC (f.lux)?
Also u can block ads for 2 bucks on a jailbreak. Is that thin system wide and how much does it cost (incl. IAP)?
Is iOS the only OS that can't be downgraded? Can Windows Phone phones install an older OS version? Can many Android phones even do it (given that some can't be rooted and those that can usually can just install an alternative version rather than just a previous official one)?
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AFAIK most android phones, especially the mid to higher end ones, can be downgraded back to the firmware they shipped with.
i stopped carin about windows years ago.
This effects the lives of developers. It signals the nearing of critical mass for iOS 8, at which point you can stop supporting older versions of iOS. I hate developing for Android because version 2 is still so popular that I still have to support it, despite it being equivalent to iOS 3 (the oldest version of iOS people might still think of supporting is iOS 6, about equivalent to Android 4.4.)
Runs fine on my kids first gen mini, games and all. Only updated so my kid can be on our family iTunes account.
However I agree Apple should allow anyone to downgrade to any version of iOS their device supports. No tech support offered, sure, but it should be the owners choice of what OS they run 100%.
version 2 is only popular because there are so many cheap, barely-smart-phones manufactured for android that run that.
Nobody on a 100+$ on contract (or even less) android device cares about version 2.
I'm not sure that's true for a lot of them.
As for Windows, we might certainly not care, but it doesn't change that it's another OS where downgrading isn't doable.
It can be done very easily by clicking on settings > wifi > then click the blue circle of your current connected wifi. Scroll to the bottom and change HTTP Proxy from off to auto. When you do that, you will see a URL space. Type the following in the URL space. http://shion.ca/ios/adblockpub.js That will block ads. It sends them to Google DNS hell.
