I agree, as long as Microsoft does not ship a full featured Office to the iPad.
And I don't understand, why Apple does not use that "Vacuum" to create a fully featured iWorks competitor...
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Apple Launches New Twitter-Based Ad Series Promoting iPad Pro
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
I agree, as long as Microsoft does not ship a full featured Office to the iPad.
And I don't understand, why Apple does not use that "Vacuum" to create a fully featured iWorks competitor...
Yes Omg! I don't understand that either! iWork has good potential to murder office. But they simply don't seem to care!and that's a huge turnoff for me. That alone makes me considering going back to MS.
My mum uses an iPad Air 2 as her main device and it works perfect for her. So yeah it can be a main computing device. I can't be bothered until there's a decent program for number crunching.
No, I label it as a toy for the whole experience, of which the Safari bar is one highly visible indicator. And I don't mean it negatively, I really like my iPad, just not for working.
Just curious, what makes your iPad Air easier to use than your iPad Pro?
I sometimes wonder if part of the deal to get Microsoft to make word for iOS was to neglect development of their own iWork's app suite. Shame, because I have come to prefer iWork's. Office for iOS doesn't even support iCloud syncing and sports an atypical share sheet system that is both confusing and frustrating to use.
i completely agree with your points! i just wanted to pay my respects to some of the engineers who designed the chip.
from my understanding. there is no level 3 cache. as well as having a bigger size then intel chips which i can only i,shine is filled with more co-processors. which means it can. be more specialized.
So although the Ghz don't match up they doesn't mean their the same. but that doesn't mean it can do as much to be faster it's all about latency. and if those microscopic scans say anything true. apple made one fast processor. and it was due to those co-processors that would let them call it more powerful. that's why they named it ipad pro because it's sencerly a fast and capable processor.
doesn't change the limitations of the OS but just like all other apple projects go. as the hardware progresses so does the software. i wanted to point that out is all.
Everytime I have to use my iPad for anything beyond reading and browsing, my blood pressure goes up.
I have a family full of 'average users'. Like me, they all like the iPad. But as soon as they need to get some work done, they switch to some crappy pc. They already have difficulties finding out how to get stuff like photo's or documents on the iPad. Most don't even know what Dropbox is and they have difficulties understanding iCloud. Even a crappy pc makes more sense to them to do their work on then an iPad. People really using the iPad for work are power users like us, not the 'average' user these adds are aimed at.
I have a family full of 'average users'. Like me, they all like the iPad. But as soon as they need to get some work done, they switch to some crappy pc. They already have difficulties finding out how to get stuff like photo's or documents on the iPad. Most don't even know what Dropbox is and they have difficulties understanding iCloud. Even a crappy pc makes more sense to them to do their work on then an iPad. People really using the iPad for work are power users like us, not the 'average' user these adds are aimed at.
Had it with all these FAKE ADS are the true enemy of all REAL users!!! iPads FAKE computers must be stopped!!! Army of REAL computer port users can use angry posts to put away these FAKE iPads and let computers be REAL again!!! SICK!
/s
/s
Last edited:
So, if I have £1,300 to spend in tech; I have 2 options:
a) iPad Pro 12.9, 256 gb = £909 + Apple Watch Series 2 £369 = £1,278
b) MacBook 256 gb = £1,219 (plus dongles)
Apple wants to make the iPad their entry price point computer; which to me is non-sense.. iOS was made as a MOBILE operating system; it will NEVER be as powerful as a desktop OS (MacOS, Windows, etc). If they install MacOS to the iPad; now we are talking...
PS: I really want the iPhone to be launched in June!
a) iPad Pro 12.9, 256 gb = £909 + Apple Watch Series 2 £369 = £1,278
b) MacBook 256 gb = £1,219 (plus dongles)
Apple wants to make the iPad their entry price point computer; which to me is non-sense.. iOS was made as a MOBILE operating system; it will NEVER be as powerful as a desktop OS (MacOS, Windows, etc). If they install MacOS to the iPad; now we are talking...
PS: I really want the iPhone to be launched in June!
Some marketing genius must have discovered that it's a target demographic they can milk for more money, but to be fair it's been going on for a long time now and not just by Apple. Of course it has the added benefit of being able to pretend it's all done in the name of "diversity" and similar rot, so bonus points there.
Look out everyone! Our dear 'Abby' is back - to tell everyone how they're wrong.
... according to ...
YOU
We get it: You LOVE your ios devices. They meet your needs.
Other people dont like them so much, and they dont meet their needs.
So try this on for size: You're both right!
Last edited:
Who then, if not me?
Everyone here is speaking in absolute terms, as though they are the sole arbiters of what makes Apple and its products great.
"The iPad is not a PC replacement." For them. Don't presume to speak for me or anyone else.
"Apple is doomed unless it does 'X', where 'X' is something which clearly hasn't worked out so well for the competition. But hey, I suppose the armchair CEOs here know better. That's why they are posting here instead of running a Fortune 500 company outside.
"Airpods suck. Apple Watch sucks. Apple Pencil sucks. Original content sucks. Everything else Apple does sucks because they haven't updated the Mac in a manner which appeals to them." For them. Once again, don't presume to speak for me or anyone else.
The irritating thing about making absolute statements such as these is that I simply need to show that I am one such exception and their entire argument falls apart. There are people using iPads for meaningful work. There are many people who have joined the Apple ecosystem precisely because of what Apple has done in recent years (even if it has come at the expense of the Mac). Apple isn't perfect, but it isn't run by idiots either, and it's high time the critics here got off their high horses and their massive echo chambers.
Yes, so as I said in my addendum to that post, maybe your both right.
But you seem to take it as some kind of personal affront that people dont like this object that you love so much.
hardly - there's no usable video editing software on ios, let alone a professional one.
maybe you could kind of do it for web by using multiple apps and icloud drive, but it would take about 10 times as much time than on a desk-/laptop, and you'd had to pray that it was perfect on the first try - changing anything (e.g. the color correction you did in a different ad than the audio mastering...) would be an extreme pita. but still - no way to export or edit your video honoring tv-specs on ios.
Last edited:
I am irritated that people seem to be trying to force their own likes and dislikes on everyone else, and making the general tone of the forums here that much more toxic and hostile in the process.
When people ask me whether they should get an iPad (I am the Apple / iPad guy in my workplace), I don't tell them to get one simply because I own one and use it heavily. It is because I have used it extensively (this is my third iPad) that I am intimately familiar with its strengths and its limitations and I am keenly aware that my years of experience in making the iPad work for me is not so readily transferable to other people in such a short period of time. I will discuss with them what it is they want to do on the device and together, we decide if the iPad is indeed the best fit for them. And if they do decide to get an iPad, they have my personal assurance that I am always available as tech support and for advice on apps and workflows, to the best of my limited ability.
The iPad can work, but you must want to make it work, and be willing to not only tolerate, but also embrace the many idiosyncrasies of iOS and the iPad's hardware in general. Do this, and the iPad can be a better mobile computing experience than many a laptop. Fight it every step of the way and you will loathe the experience with every diver of your body.
Likewise, yes, there are things the iPad still can't do, but it's not the neutered Facebook / Netflix machine everyone here is dismissing it outright as.
What I want and hope to see is more robust and objective discussion on the respective pros and cons of the iPad, not people dismissing it outright. This, I feel, is doing the iPad a major disservice, and this, I will continue to fight and speak out against.
1-Faster than most laptops?!
2-What they fail to mention is that the OS was originally built to for a 2007 smartphone to compete against Nokia, Palm, and Blackberry. It was not built to replace OS X and Windows. Want to start the post PC era? build a new OS for iPads.
also, it seems that I have lived long enough to see Apple advertise Microsoft in their own ads. Microsoft office which is basically the alternative to the Apple suite (pages, numbers, keynote) which in the era of USB-A abandonment, 3 year no updates to Mac Pro, I am surprised it is still around.
2-What they fail to mention is that the OS was originally built to for a 2007 smartphone to compete against Nokia, Palm, and Blackberry. It was not built to replace OS X and Windows. Want to start the post PC era? build a new OS for iPads.
also, it seems that I have lived long enough to see Apple advertise Microsoft in their own ads. Microsoft office which is basically the alternative to the Apple suite (pages, numbers, keynote) which in the era of USB-A abandonment, 3 year no updates to Mac Pro, I am surprised it is still around.
But you can share your screen. Is there any specific way you want to do it? Because you can do it and in many ways.
I find it funny how people try extrapolating their needs to other people. It might not be the right product for you, but it is for many others!
Typing . The size of the iPad Pro, makes typing so ackward , iPad Air 2 can be held one had easy.
Surfing the web, iPad Pro is great, typing....ahhhhhrrghh
I do think they should add more Pro features and I have a feeling they will do so in IOS 11. But some people have been calling for a MacOS hybrid OS for the iPad or a Touchscreen Mac, Apple said that they did have working models of a Touchscreen screen Mac but it wasn't a good experience. I think adding OSX to the iPad would also be a bad experience, an Apple know it which is why they haven't done it already.
I know other people will probably say what about the Surface or other Touchscreen computers. I have to say I'm not impressed.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Nice quick spot ads, doing what marketing does- push whatever a company wants to sell.
Of course, if Apple wanted to push their own Macs, the same ads apply with only the most modest of tweaks.
“Better than a computer” can be “Better than a PC” (which we’ve seen before in a prior campaign that looks like it could be a relative of this one).
“Don’t hunt for wifi” can be the same by Apple opting to build LTE into Macs (too) as has long been (off an on) rumored or by buying an external LTE modem and just plugging it into a Mac. Yes that’s a dongle solution instead of built in (but we’re already getting used to dongles with our Macs, right?), but it’s also a far less expensive way to letting LTE solve the problem of hunting for wifi than paying the extra for LTE inside of a single device.
“Do more with Word” Is a comment even necessary? A computer version of Word brings ALL of the features of Word. And a Mac with Bootcamp allows the easy ability to run the fullest version of Word by firing up Windows within the very same box.
“No PC Viruses” Depending on if one considers “PC” to include or exclude Macs, the same argument can be applied to Macs. For those that do consider Macs a PC, change the word to Windows (viruses) and run with the same message. Also, along with not getting PC (or Windows) viruses, my iPad can’t run Windows software… but my Macs can… even simultaneously with it’s native OS via Parallels or similar.
Again, not putting down the ads, just pointing out that if the marketing agenda was to push Macs, the same general messaging could easily transfer. I own both iPads and Macs and personally see the former as still better for mostly consumption, the latter being far superior for actually getting things done (production). I realize Apple really wants/needs to sell more tablets but they sure make terrific "trucks" too.
Of course, if Apple wanted to push their own Macs, the same ads apply with only the most modest of tweaks.
“Better than a computer” can be “Better than a PC” (which we’ve seen before in a prior campaign that looks like it could be a relative of this one).
“Don’t hunt for wifi” can be the same by Apple opting to build LTE into Macs (too) as has long been (off an on) rumored or by buying an external LTE modem and just plugging it into a Mac. Yes that’s a dongle solution instead of built in (but we’re already getting used to dongles with our Macs, right?), but it’s also a far less expensive way to letting LTE solve the problem of hunting for wifi than paying the extra for LTE inside of a single device.
“Do more with Word” Is a comment even necessary? A computer version of Word brings ALL of the features of Word. And a Mac with Bootcamp allows the easy ability to run the fullest version of Word by firing up Windows within the very same box.
“No PC Viruses” Depending on if one considers “PC” to include or exclude Macs, the same argument can be applied to Macs. For those that do consider Macs a PC, change the word to Windows (viruses) and run with the same message. Also, along with not getting PC (or Windows) viruses, my iPad can’t run Windows software… but my Macs can… even simultaneously with it’s native OS via Parallels or similar.
Again, not putting down the ads, just pointing out that if the marketing agenda was to push Macs, the same general messaging could easily transfer. I own both iPads and Macs and personally see the former as still better for mostly consumption, the latter being far superior for actually getting things done (production). I realize Apple really wants/needs to sell more tablets but they sure make terrific "trucks" too.