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Apple Marches in San Francisco Pride Parade
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I always found this recent story compelling:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/15/style/gay-penguins-australia.html
I brought it up because it is true. Marriage is between a man and a woman. The reason there is marriage is kids result from that union. Homosexual coupling doesn’t produce that. There is no need for government sex partner registries, which is what marriage has been turned into.
If I am white and heterosexual why should that matter? Assigning things based on group identity seems like a pretty bad road to go down. I mean I wouldn’t want to be on the losing end of that so I’d have to work to suppress all other groups than mine.
I guess when people are routinely beaten up and attacked on the way home just for being straight ? Oh and we’re talking about gays getting beaten up is in cities like london.
I can't imagine why a liberal company in a liberal city with a gay CEO would do this. Madness.
Who gives a what?
Who gives a what?
Marriage is whatever we define it to be. The main goal of marriage, earlier on, was to act as an alliance between families. Definitions change. Concepts change.
Also, there are plenty of kids born outside marriages, so marriage does not seem to be a required factor to produce children. And, there are plenty of straight married couples without children. So, why do you conflate the two when they have clearly nothing to do with each other. People do not get married because they want kids, they get married because they LOVE each other.
If marriage is whatever we define it to be then we can define it to be between a man and a woman. But marriage is the reality that men and women pair to raise kids because sex produces kids.
It isn’t that kids can’t be born outside of marriage. It is people get married to protect those kids. Most married people have kids. That some don’t doesn't mean that isn’t what marriage is about. Not everyone gets married out of love. Some do because they have a child. Others do for convenience, citizenship and all sorts of other reasons. So if we are going to say marriage isn’t about kids then it isn’t about love either.
And now you can. When same-sex marriage was legally recognized, everyone had their civil rights expanded!
Touché and point made. However, my ultimate question is “why do I have to know what he or anyone else does in the bedroom? What does that have to do with being a great American company, products and services?” I’m missing the point, aside from people wanting to make everything political these days.
I came out a little over two years ago, and my parents aren’t accepting of it and my brother told me I’m going to hell. My sisters are alright with it, at least, but I can’t go to any family events and be myself. I went to my first pride this year, and it was an amazing experience. There were straight people there, too, simply to show support. It was cool seeing so many different people from different walks of life all gathering to celebrate each other’s differences. It was an amazing experience for me, and it made me not feel alone. All that to say, you’re right and thank you.
You don’t know what happens in Tim Cook’s bedroom, and it’s rude of you to speculate.
Make everything political “these days”? In 1960, every state in the US has anti-sodomy laws. In 2003, when the Supreme Court ruled anti-sodomy laws unconstitutional, 14 states had anti-sodomy laws. People have been concerned about what other people do in their bedrooms for the full history of the US.
Society is now moving towards getting politics out of the bedroom. But to do that, we’ve had to destigmatize homosexually, which has been helped along by prominent people proclaiming their sexual preferences.
Kansas, Kentucky, and Texas have laws that ban sex acts between homosexuals that are legal between opposite sex couples. Other states have had statutes in the past that apply only to same-sex couples.
This is disgraceful. Damn Steve Jobs gave away the empire to an SJW idiot named Cook.
FFS. Is every straight relationship reduced to "what happens in the bedroom" too? Do you think that everytime I see a fully clothed straight couple going about their daily lives I imagine "what happens in the bedroom"? Honestly, if that's all your relationship is then I feel sorry for you.
Just be thankful you had your rights handed to you on a plate. Do "all your gay friends" contribute anything more to society or your friendship than "what goes on in the bedroom"? The fact you don't like it shows you do have a problem with it.
And to anyone who keeps saying "it's not natural".
A) Yes there are plenty of species that exhibit homosexuality.
B) I'll tell you what's not "natural"/only displayed in humans:
Cars
Consumer electronics
Religion
Complex medical procedures.
Plus many many more.
It reminds me of a quote I heard.
Someone told me "Being gay isn't natural in the eyes of God."
I'll tell you what isn't natural in the eyes of God - contact lenses.
Banning people is always the first step towards dictatorship today you ban a religious guy for his views on homosexuality next time he’s in power he will imitate you and ban your speech. In the guy’s example, he got no likes to his comment and has been automatically and naturally marginalized. Societies always find a way to balance things out. Freedom of speech is important now and we need to protect it.
George Orwell said: If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
Unfortunately attitudes do not change with legislation. Yes in the UK we now have equal rights but that doesn't stop same sex couples getting beaten up just for being a same sex couple.
You don't have absolute free speech though.
Defamation/slander/libel
Incitement to genocide
Swearing/cursing on children's TV shows
Why are you arguing against me and then making my point? Yes, we can define marriage to be whatever we want it to be. And now we have defined it to be a union of two people, regardless of gender. And yes, they can marry without producing children or being in love. Everybody happy.
But the fact that marriage has been dragged into this discussion, is the perfect example why pride month is still desperately needed. Imagine marriage was about producing children, and that the union of straight couples without children was put into question. Every single time! How dare they! It’s not natural! They’ll go to hell for this! Etc. That’s how gay marriage still is for many.
To the one who wrote this and those that ‘liked’ it, this is such a stupid, Ill informed and pathetic comment. When people are beaten up and persecuted for being straight maybe then they will need a ‘month’ . Till then just allow those who do suffer such behaviour to demonstrate some pride in their freedom of choice and expression.
You’ve completely missed the point dude! I don’t care. None of my business. Keep your personal life, personal.
Exactly. You know he's gay but don't know what happens in his bedroom. Because that's private. Because being gay is about a f ton more than "what happens in the bedroom".
How do you perceive it as being ‘shoved down your throat’? Is it that you don’t want to see it at all in articles or are you physically being escorted there and forced to join the parade? Seems like a very silly comment to me.