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Really? I'm an Apple Music user and I'm very happy with it, how is Spotify any better?

Well, discover weekly is absolutely amazing. It's always spot on for me. Giving me a list of new songs to listen to and I typically add 3-4 songs per week to playlists of mine. They have tons of remixes of song which I have yet to find on Apple Music or Amazon Music Unlimited. And also, the navigation is dead simple. I tried Apple Music when it first came out, that was a no go, and then after the re-design, still doesn't make sense. The fact that apple claims to make things "just work" and "dead simple" does not apply to the Apple Music app. And lets not even get into how they screwed up local/purchased music libraries.

I've lost a lot of faith in them in doing things right and being "seamless". It often ends up with wasting a weekend to sort things out.
 
So Apple abandons some products because they're not part of a core focus, or at least seemingly abandons them. Now they imagine themselves a media conglomerate? Talk about a weird pivot. If Apple tries to go this route then they will have utterly jumped the shark.

If they do this I think they really have to look at themselves and ask what kind of company are they? They used to be a computer company, then a device and part time computer company. Are they trying to be Amazon? Comcast? Warning! Identity crisis ahead!
It's about the money.

Don't read too much into the "focus" talk.

Glassed Silver:ios
 
Well, discover weekly is absolutely amazing. It's always spot on for me. Giving me a list of new songs to listen to and I typically add 3-4 songs per week to playlists of mine. They have tons of remixes of song which I have yet to find on Apple Music or Amazon Music Unlimited. And also, the navigation is dead simple. I tried Apple Music when it first came out, that was a no go, and then after the re-design, still doesn't make sense. The fact that apple claims to make things "just work" and "dead simple" does not apply to the Apple Music app. And lets not even get into how they screwed up local/purchased music libraries.

I've lost a lot of faith in them in doing things right and being "seamless". It often ends up with wasting a weekend to sort things out.

We must be using something different, I listen to a lot more new music since having the Apple Music subscription. I use the For You section which gives very accurate playlists that I might be interested in. Also the browse section which is clearly labelled with tabs like new music, curated playlists and so on, it's pretty simple to use in my view. It seems pretty "seamless" as you put it, at least that's my experience, obviously I can't speak for everyone only myself.
 
Lol, is this Apple's new methodology, statements about making something better, always coming in the future, copying the cool things that other companies have already offered?

Apple is a LOT of talk lately. I hope they deliver on the many, many promises they have been making in the last few years; I mean like a psychic or futurist eventually if you make enough predictions some will come true. But this is getting tiresome to hear about what Apple could possibly due and hints about great things supposedly in the works and coming while those things are already realities. Tim Cook said at the beginning of 2016 that Apple had many great things planned for that year....its 2017 now.

Apple has the money to make quality original programming and has had, for years now, one of the best multimedia platforms available, it is just dissapointing that it ALWAYS takes other companies to pioneer success first before Apple adopts and enters into those markets. Apple should have disrupted this industry with their first Apple TV, making original content or at least securing premium exclusives to drive an iTunes content subscription model 10 years ago. Instead they were too focused on whoring the platform to Big Telco trying to secure AppleTV as the box your cord or indebted servitude is connected to.

HBO demonstrated some of the best content you can get on cable, Netflix offered us a new future of high quality subscription based content, now Apple screams "Us Too, Us Too, we will do something great too like that, eventually, when we get around to it. We have nothing interesting to offer right now but in the future we will be awesome. Please don't forget about us."

Tim Cook = Trump, he only says he will make Apple great again, still no proof yet that it will happen.
 
Makes no sense to me. I'd think they would be working towards an :apple: TV service, similar to :apple: Music. Unlimited shows and movies on iTunes for let's say $40 a month? I'd pay $50, easily. I feel like that would be a better strategy. Then maybe add original content into the :apple: TV service that is exclusive.

From the rumors over the last couple of years it sounds like Apple has been trying to start it's own streaming cable/TV service, but haven't had any luck. It's complicated working with all the different broadcast and cable networks, and it's quickly becoming a crowded area, with new 'skinny bundles' coming out of the woodwork. At this point Apple would have trouble standing out so they might as well start creating their own content now and keep working on getting a cable/TV streaming service out the door. What Apple ultimately wants is to move hardware (in this case :apple:TVs) and if they create content that people like and want to see people will buy :apple:TVs in order to see it.

For everyone complaining that Apple should re-focus on MPs and MBPs, how long has it been since selling laptops and desktop has been the dominant source of Apple's revenue? Those days are long gone, and never coming back, because the customer buying habits have changed. Selling laptops and desktop is no longer the lucrative business it was 15yrs ago. The iPod and iPhone have been the big needle movers since then, but the iPod has gone away and the iPhone's growth is plateauing because the smart phone market is maturing. The iPad hasn't done gangbusters and neither has the Watch. So that leaves the :apple:TV and... some amazing product deep inside Apple that hasn't seen the light of day yet?

If Apple wants to change the :apple:TV from a hobby to a major focus then creating exclusive content is something they have to do. It's just the nature of that particular beast.
 
Westworld was very, very, very good. It'd be hard to compete with that.

Agreed!

But hopefully this isn't what Tim was referring to when he said Apple has a lot of new products in the pipeline... Stick with electronics Apple.
 
Probably be for US only lol.


Why? If Apple will produce the new series then it's up to Apple to do whatever they want with it. I think it's the best opportunity to make solid good series and broadcast them using an app within Apple TV. If you can't or don't want to buy existing series make them yourself.

I think this is a good thing.
 
In retrospect this isn't surprising with all the hype about hiring Dr Dre and that music producer guy. And that plaid cloth company lady. Really feel like they are running around like a headless chicken the last few years.
 
That's not the same thing at all.

Apple is trying to create ANOTHER reason to stay in their ecosystem. This is exactly why Netflix has shows like Fuller House or 'Orange is the New Black'. This is exactly why Amazon buys exclusive rights to Mr. Robot, or has their own shows like 'The Man in the High Castle'.

For HBO to enter the smartphone/desktop/laptop business is laughable. It's not the same thing.

When you have a service, you (1) advertise it and (2) make it better than others (and one way is through exclusives)

Except they wouldn't need to be fishing for additional reasons to stay in their ecosystem if everything worked like it was supposed to.
 
I hate this.

The very idea of Apple creating TV shows to stream on their music platform exemplifies everything wrong with Apple today: they have no clear direction and are really confusing their customers.
 
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Using Apple Music makes sense since it currently is the only subscription content streaming service Apple has that is device and OS cross platform.
 
Except they wouldn't need to be fishing for additional reasons to stay in their ecosystem if everything worked like it was supposed to.

Are you saying the same about Amazon, Netflix, Android, Google - EVERYONE who advertises and adds new features to their ecosystems?
 
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