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Beats - great for bassheads (nothing wrong with that or admitting it given today's music).

Bose - best noise cancelling walk around headset for i-devices but all inaccurate sound.

Either way - a real plus for Best Buy and other B&B shops given the Apple Store 'drama' (still chortling here).
 
Have you ever had a job? There are restrictions on what you can do and wear at almost any company. Wearing Beats headphones is not a right that NFL players have when they are at work. They are free to wear Beats anywhere else they want. No rights have been violated especially when the players agreed to not wear competing products during and after games.

Can you read? I even wrote it in English and you quoted it.
"(not by law, I know I know)" - there I made it in BOLD, UNDERLINED & ITALICS so you can see it. I swear I even spell it out and you people can't get it... :rolleyes:

and I wrote "BORDERS" on stepping on people's rights, do you understand that word?

Please get a grasp on the English language before your write snide remarks.
 
I think you are wrong. I believe Apple would have let Bose products peacefully co-exist with Beats in their stores. Bose was the one who shot across Apple's bow with their deal with the NFL. The NFL didn't arbitrarily say they would fine players for representing anything but Bose, Bose pushed for that as part of the deal. That's how it works and they knew that it would push Apple to remove their products from Apple Store shelves.

I think it is simply ignorant to think Apple is being anti-competitive or anti-choice. They are a business primed to make money. They are under no obligation to sell their competitor's products - AT ALL. Someone said it earlier, Why would you expect to walk into a Microsoft Store and be able to buy an iPad???

This is how FUD is spread. Not sure where you got your information from but you should give it back.;) Nothing in the Bose sponsorship says that players have to represent Bose or nothing else. Quite the contrary, players can continue to endorse any headphone they chose. Nothing there has changed. What has changed? Bose added a category to their current NFL sponsorship. They were already the official home audio sponsor and when the official headset sponsorship came up for bid (Motorola had it for 13 years) Bose won it. Beats could have been in that bid process but I don't know if that's the case. Bose saw an opportunity (for a few more million of course) to add headphones to that sponsorship. With the headset/headphone sponsorship in hand, Bose gets the biggest benefit of NFL Sponsorship - exclusivity. That exclusivity applies not only to Bose but Visa, Microsoft, Gatorade, and a whole host of others. It covers all NFL related activities and it's standard. It doesn't ban Beats in the sense that players can't wear them. It bans the appearance of competing names and logos. A player wearing Beats can put a sticker over the 'b' and be just fine. No, that sticker does not have to be Bose either.

Apple removing Bose from the stores probably has more to do with 1. Watch display space. 2. Bose lawsuit against Beats. 3. Positioning Beats more prominently. After all that, there could be some of the "I'm gonna get you back for what you did" NFL stuff.
 
BOSE so much > than Beats by dummy

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Overpriced junk shouldn't be sold in Apple Stores regardless of what you think of Beats.

Beats are ok...but very overpriced.

You can do much much better for your dollar.

you clearly haven't heard Beats, or given Bose a proper listen. Excellent sound
 
Did you even bother to read the story? Bose didn't get anyone banned. The NFL banned the players from wearing Beats headphones. The NFL not Bose. It's NFL policy to only allow players to display branded goods from official NFL sponsors during press interviews, etc. Walking down the high street the players can wear whatever they want.

Then it's plenty obvious you don't know anything about the business deal between Bose and the NFL.
 
What Beats have contracted with the NFL players is their business and the player's business.

I'm sure there is money exchanging hands there to so they are buying the service of the player to endorse their product so they are essentially buying "ad space" on the player's head/back of their neck.
Because the NFL, who are already generating billions of dollars, want a cut from the player endorsements....by forcing the players to endorse something they might not agree with. Uniforms is one thing but people draw the line once you stray further away from that line.
 
Grado! for headphones, and made in Brooklyn.

Don't care where they are made, but if you plug your headphones directly into any low power device, like an iPod or iPhone, Grado SR60 will give you the best sound that any money can buy. (There are better headphones for more money if you plug them into your HiFi, or use a headphone amplifier).

A bit hard to get in the UK. Only on eBay; haven't seen them in any store.
 
What Beats have contracted with the NFL players is their business and the player's business.

I'm sure there is money exchanging hands there to so they are buying the service of the player to endorse their product so they are essentially buying "ad space" on the player's head/back of their neck.

So what? The players union has agreed to not display endorsements without the NFL's consent when they working (game day). So what deals the players have outside of the NFL does not matter.
 
BOSE so much > than Beats by dummy

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you clearly haven't heard Beats, or given Bose a proper listen. Excellent sound

Not at the same price point. ;) Maybe $500 Bose might be better than $150 Beats but for price point Beats is better hands down in terms of sound. Bose is better for comfort.
 
Good for you Apple. Bose banning NFL players with Beats endorsements from wearing their headphones in NFL related activities was a dick-move.

Either way you cut it though, both companies are being stupid about their headphones.

Good for apple? Bose paid a bunch of money to get their products shown on nfl. Bose move IMO was not a dick move since they paid for the exclusivity while apple deciding to remove Bose products from their stores was. The only one that suffers w apple removing Bose from their stores is the public. I bet Bose spent more in the nfl sponsorship than whatever money they have made selling their items in an apple stores last year.

All this shows is that apple is a crybaby.

Everyday that passes after jobs has died, apple keeps pushing back to their old broken failed ways. Hope they realize it before they crash again.
 
That's weird because according to the original article posted by macrumors, it's anytime before the game also..

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1796037/

"Thanks to a new marketing deal with Bose, NFL players will no longer be allowed to wear Apple's line of Beats headphones around television cameras, according to Re/code. The restriction is in place for TV interviews during training camp, practice sessions and game day, running from before the game or event through 90 minutes after play has ended."

Yes, "around television cameras". I think technically they could fine them when they are warming up, so far the NFL hasn't since most of the media attention occurs during and after the game.
 
Because the NFL, who are already generating billions of dollars, want a cut from the player endorsements....by forcing the players to endorse something they might not agree with. Uniforms is one thing but people draw the line once you stray further away from that line.

They aren't forcing players to endorse anything. Players don't have to wear headphones - and if they do, they simply have to cover up the logo. If anything - they are forcing them to NOT endorse anything
 
Can you read? I even wrote it in English and you quoted it.
"(not by law, I know I know)" - there I made it in BOLD, UNDERLINED & ITALICS so you can see it. I swear I even spell it out and you people can't get it... :rolleyes:

and I wrote "BORDERS" on stepping on people's rights, do you understand that word?

Please get a grasp on the English language before your write snide remarks.

I read it and it doesn't border on anything. You can make all the bold and italics you want. But nothing the NFL does with regard to regulating what NFL players wear borders on taking away players rights more than does having to wear a uniform to work at McDonalds.
 
Can anyone explain to me why it is anticompetitive? Or why they feel that this is another competitive? I don't see Samsung stores carrying Apple products nor Microsoft carrying Apple products. Not being a troll. Just really curious why forum members like to say these things about Apple

Ahhh! But Apple does carry Microsoft products.
 
No HiFi enthusiast wants to see either. Thank god B&o wasn't in the line up too.

HiFI enthusiast. Yes, if you have thousands to spend on gear you can go around telling everyone how great your equipment is. Bose sound great, can't say that for Beats though. If you can't spend $300 on a bluetooth speaker that portable and sounds great...you're not an 'enthusiast' you're broke or really cheap. Sounds like those hating on a quality speaker have small peni... syndrome and need to show off flashier name brands.
 
Huh? Thats your opinion. People buying Apple products clearly don't agree with you. Scalpers waiting in line for hours for Apple products also don't agree with you. Let me know when people start scalping competitor products.

You think its overpriced for your needs and that is fine. However, you have no right to tell people what they should be thinking and to trash the people personally who make Apple products. Lets face it everyone has things that others think are overpriced or not suitable for their needs. No need to disparage the people who make Apple products and the people who buy Apple products.
It was a joke. I was mocking someone else. I actually love Apple. Check my post history

Try not to get to riled up on the Internet.
 
Not at the same price point. ;) Maybe $500 Bose might be better than $150 Beats but for price point Beats is better hands down in terms of sound. Bose is better for comfort.

are we talking headphones or speakers? noise cancellation is far better with bose, as is comfort w regards to headphones
 
It's one less purchasing opportunity for Bose to have. I agree with the NFL as it relates to uniforms, drinks, food and other essential football and stadium gear. However, non essentials like headphones I think its crossing a line. It would be like Apple telling employees they couldn't come to work if they use a competing product like a Galaxy Phone. Even then I can understand Apple's concern with this scenario because it's a direct competitor. However, the NFL isn't in the headphones market so....

So it's okay for Bose to sign a deal with NFL that only their headphones are displayed on the field and during game time. Then the players get fined for even wearing Beats during the post game interviews due to the Bose deal.
That's one less sales opportunity for Beats...and I am no Beats fan.

But according to you it's not fair of Apple to discontinue their relationship with Bose? GTFOH.
 
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