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Wow, an 8 year old iMac still crankin ehh? "I just installed Windows 10 on my 2010 Dell desktop" said noone ever. LOL

I have a 2009 iMac running Sierra which will be getting upgraded to HS. I'm sure it's the last release it will see but it's been a great machine. I still use it for recording podcasts today even! I never had a PC live that long.
 
I know there are others who feel that way; but I don’t get it. What could possibly be so appealing about Snow Leopard that it is preferred over High Sierra and other subsequent OSs? o_O

Snappiness. Seriously. It is boggling to click Finder from the dock and watch it present itself before you can blink. Hardware? MacBook Pro 15, Early 2006. The OS snappiness could put 10.11 to shame, including 10.12, on my MBP 15 Late 2011 with dGPU.

It is only with High Sierra 10.13 that I feel the OS snappiness to be very good. But, the entire OS could do with a little less animations so that the snappiness factor can be retained/ maintained.
 
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Working fine on my 2015 MB Pro Retina. Biggest concern for me is Aperture 3.6, which seems to continue to run very well!! Don't mean to ignite a pro/con discussion concerning Aperture vs LR/Photos, etc. ... I'm just stubborn.

I continue to prefer my Aperture workflow, including several plugins (Nik, On1, Aurora HDR, Luminar), and my 800GB library of more than 15k images on an external RAID box still functions perfectly!! Thankful, I am!!

Cheers!!

Ken
 
Working fine on my 2015 MB Pro Retina. Biggest concern for me is Aperture 3.6, which seems to continue to run very well!! Don't mean to ignite a pro/con discussion concerning Aperture vs LR/Photos, etc. ... I'm just stubborn.

I continue to prefer my Aperture workflow, including several plugins (Nik, On1, Aurora HDR, Luminar), and my 800GB library of more than 15k images on an external RAID box still functions perfectly!! Thankful, I am!!

Cheers!!

Ken
Im so jealous, i love aperture and now i have canon 5d mark iv the raw files dont read so had to go to light room but its so slow on the latest macbook pro aperture was so fast and optimised wish i could still use it or apple bring it back, as photos isnt anything like it
 
i ave no issue with APFS, indeed is super fast. You need to understand this is a beta! Anyway you can continue with old JHFS+. It will ask about APFS during first boot. I suggest you to do a backup then install and upgrade to APFS which is incredible.
They removed that checkbox from earlier betas. If you have an Apple ssd you are getting APFS when you upgrade you don’t have a choice in the matter.
I guess if you clean install and format the disk HFS, install it, it may work. But that’s just a guess. It may change the file system back to APFS during the clean install.
 
I notice on my Touch Bar MBP, it seems like Apple is confused with the direction they want to go as to how the touch bar performs. In Sierra, if I pushed the brightness button and adjusted the slider, it'd go back to whatever it was doing before. Now it just sits there on the brightness selector until I hit the X to go back to the normal touchbar display. Seems counterproductive... and when Apple has taken a year to train the old way into people, now to change it seems odd.
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Wow, an 8 year old iMac still crankin ehh? "I just installed Windows 10 on my 2010 Dell desktop" said noone ever. LOL
Um, It just so happens i did just install Windows 10 on my 2010 Dell Desktop. Just saying. And my 2011 Mac Mini is the machine I am using for the beta testing for HS. So my 7 year old Mac is still crankin also. :)
 
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Can anyone speak to the performance of this software on an old HFS+ system? I’m running a late 2011 MacBook Pro, and am wondering whether the conversiom is worth it. My system has an HDD instead of an SSD, so I’d be interested to know if APFS is practical.
 
The new file system is pretty cool – all free space on all partitions is pooled, and drawn for each partition as required. Therefore partitions are not of fixed size, but report the size occupied in terminal diskutil.

Does that apply to BootCamp partitions as well?
 
Can anyone speak to the performance of this software on an old HFS+ system? I’m running a late 2011 MacBook Pro, and am wondering whether the conversiom is worth it. My system has an HDD instead of an SSD, so I’d be interested to know if APFS is practical.
All I can say is that if you decide to go the SSD route, the difference in performance will be night and day. Put one a few years ago in my 2011 MacBook Pro and just recently in my brother’s 2010. Unbelievable difference. Highly recommended. High Sierra is incredibly responsive and apps open and load almost instantly on my old machine.
 
I've been putting off updates on my '16 MBP for months. Guess it's time to play catch up to get ready. Are there any big changes for the average user?
 
All I can say is that if you decide to go the SSD route, the difference in performance will be night and day. Put one a few years ago in my 2011 MacBook Pro and just recently in my brother’s 2010. Unbelievable difference. Highly recommended. High Sierra is incredibly responsive and apps open and load almost instantly on my old machine.
Thanks for letting me know! I had a feeling that may be the case. My apps only extremely slowly (looking at you, Word 2016), especially by day-one standards.

I’ve been grappling with the idea of updating to SSD, or just getting a new machine in the nearish future. That could be a good stand in, since SSDs don’t cost a fortune anymore. Which SSD are you using?
 
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Thanks for letting me know! I had a feeling that may be the case. My apps only extremely slowly (looking at you, Word 2016), especially by day-one standards.

I’ve been grappling with the idea of updating to SSD, or just getting a new machine in the nearish future. That could be a good stand in, since SSDs don’t cost a fortune anymore. Which SSD are you using?
Yes, my brother’s machine was becoming unusable. He thought it was a different computer when I gave it back to him as he was ready to upgrade.

I have a Crucial M4 which is old tech, they make faster ones now and I think you can find a 256GB for around $100, maybe less. The price for SSDs has come down dramatically the past couple years.

I have a late 2011 13” MacBook Pro with the i5 and 8 gigs of ram and that thing flies, much faster than day one.
 
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For me, Sierra has been pretty much the new Snow Leopard. Rock solid. Hopefully Hihg Sierra will be better (I'm not sure yet)

Man I wish this were true for my system. Sierra seemed to aged my computer by about 3 years. Hoping High Sierra brings things back to normal.
 
Is anyone else finding that the 'Recents' option in the Finder sidebar (previously 'All My Files' in Sierra) is only showing certain file types - PDFs, MS Word files, iWork files, image files etc - and not files from some third party apps? Also, if you right-click on Recents, there is an 'Add to Dock' option which doesn't work.

Does this 'Recents' works fine in High Sierra? I like and use this 'All My Files' option quite a lot. But it has been buggy since Yosemite and despite I submitted bug reports several times and Apple Engineers promised to look into it, they have not fixed bugs in it. Also this option is enabled in the attachment browser in Mail?
 
I’ve been grappling with the idea of updating to SSD, or just getting a new machine in the nearish future. That could be a good stand in, since SSDs don’t cost a fortune anymore. Which SSD are you using?
Samsung 850 EVO without question.
It'll just work with no fuss.
Sure, you can get Crucials for cheaper perhaps but they are hit and miss.
Do a search of their forums and you'll see what I mean.
 
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Working fine on my 2015 MB Pro Retina. Biggest concern for me is Aperture 3.6, which seems to continue to run very well!! Don't mean to ignite a pro/con discussion concerning Aperture vs LR/Photos, etc. ... I'm just stubborn.

I continue to prefer my Aperture workflow, including several plugins (Nik, On1, Aurora HDR, Luminar), and my 800GB library of more than 15k images on an external RAID box still functions perfectly!! Thankful, I am!!

Cheers!!

Ken

I love how Aperture still works beautifully on High Sierra. Typical Apple software (more and more of the past) with its impeccable user experience for a lot of things that I tried it for. Adobe does not come close in user experience. Photos feels rather a baby in that light. Canon's DPP is what I use for RAW to JPG conversion and lens corrections. I am not particularly happy with DPP's image correctional ability and Lightroom seems overly complicated while Photos might just work. Capture One Pro has "structure" that i have found to be particularly useful for my photos. Aperture should be brought back from the limbo and updated. I am very sure many would pay for the software.

My current idea is to use Photos as a DAM, and it can be a solid DAM at least for me. All my photos in the cloud, on all devices. Works for me. So, RAW can be stored on external disks and images I want and like can be stored as JPGs (or HEIC when it becomes available on DPP/ other) in Photos. That part resolved, I am now looking for a more robust RAW image manipulator. Maybe, I should just use DPP for lens corrections as I would trust Canon more for it, and then for further edits look elsewhere.

Any suggestions welcome! (maybe we could go at it in Digital Photography section!)
 
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I'd love to go back to Aperture, but would it be able to read my Photos library or would I need to do some conversion that might possibly damage / lose some or all of my images?
 
I've heard this is really buggy and people are speculating it won't ship in September. Odd, for a "catch-up" on the fundamentals release.

Any views from people who have used the betas?

Works fine for me apart from two issues I’ve reported to Apple:

1.Notifications come back again after clearing in side bar.

2. Opening multiple PDF documents together using Preview no longer merges those files into one Preview window.
 
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