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Apple to Enter Verizon-AT&T Spat With Two New iPhone Ads

yg17 said:
EDGE is data. Slower than 3G and not capable of simultaneous voice and data.

3G, you get simultaneous voice and data on AT&T. Not on Verizon, it's either or.
Uh, there's a difference between being able to do things that are already on your phone during a call and use data while on a call. Go try to surf the internet while on a call on your Verizon phone. It won't work. It's not a feature they don't tell you about. EvDO is simply not capable of simultaneous voice and data. Period.
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While in practice it is true about not having simultaneous voice and data, I've successfully done so with a Sprint A-900 after going into the service settings and switching a bit to allow it. Its not guaranteed to work, but in my experience if I was online and a call came in I would be able to take it, then when ending the call be continuing directly on the data connection. It didn't break the data connection.

The A-900 doesn't have a lot of apps for testing simultaneous browsing and voice and I don't recall if I would be able to initiate data apps when already in a call, but the call would work when on data services (which I primarily was using for tethering at the time). The data service for tethering continued as a bluetooth modem while on a phone call.

This may have something to do with the Sprint network in particular and I had a little guidance from a Sprint tech I knew.
 
Good job Apple, the best company for customer service and product design in the world! Keep on showing the competition that they have already lost.

Verizon will soon join M$ in bankruptcy.
 
Does anyone actually talk and browse the web at the same time? I guess once in a while I may, but BFD, that's an advantage over Verizon?
 
Good lord I wish they would both just shut up. ATT and VZW seem like these two bullies in a pissing contest, and it's really getting irritating to sign on to Mac News sites and see the latest escalation in their little arms race abt who the better provider is.
 
Nice ads...

I would love to see more competition in the carrier market and really don't like the iPhone-ATT exclusivity agreement that seems to have justified ATT in their strategies of (a) overcharging us for comparable services from different (and, by definition, better) carriers and (b) not building up their 3G infrastructure at the rate they would have probably had to to remain competitive if had they not had the iPhone agreement.

That said, the ads did highlight one of the features of the iPhone that I like best... and they were well executed. Just another example of why this whole thing is so frustrating... even the Apple ads for ATT's network come off way better than ATT's :D

Maybe somewhat could pork-up the healthcare bill to include a bailout for the impoverished iPhone users...
 
lex750 said:
NYC has 30% drop calls on AT&T. Nuf said.
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2.5% of the US population lives in NYC.
2.5% of the US population lives in the SFO area.

For 95% of the US population (288 million people) that don't live in NYC or SFO, that's not a relevant issue.

And the 30% call drop stat you're talking about was a snapshot of operations before AT&T started moving more of their 3G network over to the 850mhz frequency, so you're citing an out of date stat.

There's no denying that AT&T's network is behind Verizon's, but there's also no denying that AT&T is dumping tens of billions .. yearly .. into fixing it. The the way you're painting the situation is just as ridiculous as an Apple/AT&T fanboy saying that it's perfect.
 
HD303 said:
Does anyone actually talk and browse the web at the same time?
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"Browse" the web? No. Look up information that is important to the conversation I'm having? All the time.

HD303 said:
I guess once in a while I may, but BFD, that's an advantage over Verizon?
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It absolutely is an advantage over Verizon.

And a lot more important than the "widgets" that Verizon crows about in its iDon't ads.
 
Goona said:
There's also somebody saying the same thing about Verizon somewhere else.
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Yes: I am saying it about Verizon in the Las Vegas area, 2 week trial from Costco, and it went back - very spotty coverage (similar to what those in San Fran got before the upgrade a few months ago) on a Verizon phone and network, but pretty much flawless with the ATT 3GS iphone (two areas on the highway 15 right next to city center drops the calls though) - no where else do I get dropped calls.
 
iPhoneNYC said:
Well, my phone could do that but unfortunately I'm sitting in an apartment in mid-town Manhattan and I don't have coverage. I don't have coverage because ATT is my provider. What good is the coolest phone if one has the worst provider???
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Exactly my point. And it may sound like fud but I have dropped a call 5 times in the same conversation. I relayed that experience to a friend in New York and she promptly told me she has dropped 6 in the same conversation. I realize that this is likely just us in NYC and SF and others couldn't be happier. Congrats to those that live in an area where it works as it should. That is not the case for me, and sounds like you have the same nightmare.
 
NoExpectations said:
Apple and AT&T have just started to tell the rest of the world what only a few techies knew: Verizon can not support simultaneous voice and data. OUCH.

I use this feature all the time. Imagine if Apple went with Verizon? How pitiful would the iPhone be?
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Until MacRumors posted this Apple ad, I was never even able to figure out how to get on the Internet during a call without accidentally hanging up on the caller. Too bad Apple doesn't make this feature more salient in the first place. When you move the phone away from your ear, the screen often flashes on and off and just presents you with a bunch of call-related options, nothing about going to your apps/Internet.

Your whole post is contradictory, if "only a few techies" know (which doesn't surprise me at all, given that it's non-obvious in the GUI), then this feature really isn't that useful in the first place. The rest of us get along with our pitiful iPhones quite well.
 
Goona said:
You have the figures for Verizon or I guess Verizon has 0& dropped calls?
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To guess that Verizon has zero dropped calls is silly. All carriers have dropped calls. I've had Sprint for 10 years and have had about a dozen drop calls. Most were when traveling outside a major city. Why do you think Apple went to Verizon first? Because At&T had a better network? Everyone I know that has an iPhone says the service was much better with their previous carrier.
 
Rocketman said:
You are confused. Verizon charges more for broadband service, has lower bandwidth users, and has a less impacted network. Verizon is making BANK. Microsoft did have a debacle with Vista, but the uptake on Windows 7 has been better than expected, so they too are making BANK.

Rocketman
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Now yes but once Apple unleashes it's tablet on AT&T and a remodeled line of phones it will be game over for dominance. Verizon will have to reduce it's prices and take huge hits on phone costs which will break them in the long run.

Writing is on the wall.
 
They both have their strengths and weaknesses, but why get a CDMA phone, as CDMA is going away, and cannot be used much outside the USA... LTE is getting close to the "holy grail"...
 
Apple just smacked down Verizon! I love these wars. ;)


I guess the next question will be from Verizon: "Ever want to make a phone call, and not have your call drop? Can your phone on AT&T do that?"

Zing!
 
djanis3 said:
I love the legal print at the end of the ad.

at&t logo:
"3G not available in all areas" - Kinda what this is all about, right?

Apple logo:
"Sequences shortened" - I'm sure this is out of necessity because you could never order flowers or find movie times before the network dropped my call.
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ya because version drops calls in one sec right? i know your talking about att but the truth is on most of long island where i live version get no signal and att 5 so just get over the fact that version sucks
 
libertyforall said:
They both have their strengths and weaknesses, but why get a CDMA phone, as CDMA is going away, and cannot be used much outside the USA... LTE is getting close to the "holy grail"...
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Because I don't need my phone outside the US, I need it to work well where I live, you can't even buy an LTE phone yet, and LTE will come to both networks well after my contract is up and it's time to get a new phone anyway.
 
Heh, I just realized this, but the latest Verizon commercial has Santa and his reindeers, and one of the reindeer can't go out delivering toys because he has AT&T and supposedly can't get coverage. But since Santa delivers toys all over the world, Santa's and the other reindeers' CDMA Verizon phones going to be useless for a good portion of the trip, and the one reindeer with AT&T will be able to make calls in pretty much every country they're in. Verizon fail :rolleyes:
 
Rocketman said:
You are confused. Verizon charges more for broadband service, has lower bandwidth users, and has a less impacted network. Verizon is making BANK. Microsoft did have a debacle with Vista, but the uptake on Windows 7 has been better than expected, so they too are making BANK.

Rocketman
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Microsoft just turned in its first quarter financial report card, and while the good vibes around Windows 7 launch haven't yet begun to fade, the numbers here aren't exactly cheery: revenue is down 14 percent from last year at $12.92b, operating income is down 25 percent at $4.48b, net income is down 18 percent at $3.57b, and earnings per share are down 17 percent at $0.40. Not wonderful, but it's better than analysts were expecting...

http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/23/microsoft-first-quarter-income-down-18-percent-still-beats-expe/
 
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