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Anyone know how long the cable is?

Hopefully apple isn’t being tight this year and end up giving us a 1m cable, 2m is the sweet spot.
 
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Jesus these iPhones have gotten so damn expensive over the years. They went from "Wow it's expensive but I guess if I can afford it if I really want to" to "I'd have to work 3 months straight and only eat pasta every day to get the small one with base storage" really quickly. And no matter how awesome they are, in 2-3 years you'll pretty much have to get another one because it will have become slow or incompatible with iOS. Not that other brands are better at this, but it's just so much money to spend on something that loses value so fast. I'm very glad that the SE does exist though, and that it wasn't just a one-off.

I don't really get all the tech just for wireless charging, when most people will probably just continue to use the cable. Also they removed the charger and earphones from the SE but didn't drop the price? Why?
 
Serious, why is there not more information on the MagSafe Duo Charger?! Apple, take my money already!! It's literally the thing I'm most excited about from today's announcement.
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Stupid use of the MagSafe name, doesn’t make sense. The whole safe part was because it saved your laptop flying off the table if you tripped on the wire.

Provides no safety functionality to your phone.

More often than saving your laptop, it saved the wire from being broken when you tripped on the wire. For me, that's the main point of wireless chargers -- they save wear and tear on the wire. I used to always get broken charging cables from using my phone in bed while plugged in. With a wireless charger, I can use it in bed and then drop it on the charger (not having to wake up properly and turn on the light to plug it in). It usually works fine, but occasionally isn't positioned quite correctly and doesn't charge. MagSafe will fix that and also allow faster charging.
 
BTW it's just another proprietary solution from Apple (like Apple Watch charger). I guess it's a middle step between normal port / portless iPhone. I don't think that proprietary is eco friendly or is it?!

While only Apple products can benefit from the extra features (faster charging, magnetic attachment), the device should still act a a standard Qi EPP charger.

And Apple is hardly an outlier in that respect. Others, like Oppo, Huawei, Xiaomi, OnePlus, Motorola, and Samsung all employ proprietary protocols for their fast wireless charging implementations.

Samsung does make their protocol extension available to third parties as part of the Qi-spec, but requires separate testing and certification for it.

The existence of standards like Qi, USB Power, and QC does provide a baseline level of interoperability. But it does not preclude proprietary solutions from companies that wish to exceed those standards, and have their own preferred methods of doing so. That scenario played out on wired, and the same is occuring with wireless charging.
 
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More often than saving your laptop, it saved the wire from being broken when you tripped on the wire. For me, that's the main point of wireless chargers -- they save wear and tear on the wire. I used to always get broken charging cables from using my phone in bed while plugged in. With a wireless charger, I can use it in bed and then drop it on the charger (not having to wake up properly and turn on the light to plug it in). It usually works fine, but occasionally isn't positioned quite correctly and doesn't charge. MagSafe will fix that and also allow faster charging.

I have never broken a charging cable and I use it in bed when its plugged in etc. I never understood people always complaining about Apple charging cables breaking easily.

If the magnet is pretty strong on the new Magsafe charger and I assume it is since its probably the same one holding the new cases to the iPhone 12. The charger will probably lift up and remain stuck to the back of the iPhone which may lead to more cable damage than saving it. I've never had a problem with my current Mophie wireless charger not charging properly. When I lay it down I make sure its aligned properly, I feel the buzz and then see the light come on, only then do I walk away or go to sleep.

I think a lot of people just aren't careful when using their tech, but then I am pretty OCD and keep everything I own in brand new condition.
 
I thought I saw a third party car mount (vent?) flash on the screen when they were talking about it. I have a vent mount now but would love a slim version that used the MagSafe magnets.

I have a magnetic car mount that uses a magnet I stuck to the inside of my case. I wonder if the built-in magnets would work for this and I wouldn’t have to use a separate magnet?
 


Apple today introduced a new MagSafe charging puck that's designed for the iPhone, with a design that's similar to the inductive chargers used for the Apple Watch.

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The new MagSafe charging pucks are able to charge the new iPhone 12 models faster than Qi-based charging options, offering up to 15W of power. Apple mentioned the 15W charging on stage during the event, and it's also confirmed on product pages for the new devices.

Qi-based wireless chargers continue to be limited to a maximum of 7.5W of charging power when used with an Apple device, so those who are looking for the fastest "wireless" charging option will want to opt for one of the new MagSafe chargers from Apple.

Apple has designed an Apple Watch-style MagSafe charging puck for iPhones, along with a dual charger that also includes an Apple Watch charger. MagSafe charging specifications are also being made available to third-party companies who will be able to design magnetic chargers for Apple's new iPhone lineup.

The product page for the new charger suggests that it is compatible with all iPhones dating back to the iPhone 8, which is all models that support wireless charging, but the description suggests faster wireless charging is limited to the new models.

Apple's MagSafe charger for iPhone will be available for $39, with pricing on the combo Apple Watch version unknown as of now.

Article Link: Apple's New MagSafe Charger Offers 15W Charging, Qi Still Limited to 7.5W
It doesn’t seem very well thought out. I don’t want a magnet near my mechanical watch.
 
This makes it suitable replacement for Lightning as a charger. The power brick that has always shipped with iPhones was 5W. So if that was sufficient, 3 times that power is as well.
 
If most people are like my wife, they put their phone on a charger and hold them together to charge in bed. I mean, I would never have done that but with this product you can without an issue really. However, the main point of it is to enable 15W fast charging because it's aligned perfectly every time.

Are... are you me from the future? Not only was that the same explanation I was going to give, but I was also using the fiancé as the example. Do I like the iPhone mini, or do I end up wishing I had the Pro model?
 
Serious, why is there not more information on the MagSafe Duo Charger?! Apple, take my money already!! It's literally the thing I'm most excited about from today's announcement.
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MagSafe Charger, Leather Wallet with MagSafe, and iPhone 12 Silicone Case and Clear Case will be available beginning Friday, October 16. iPhone 12 Leather Case will be available beginning Friday, November 6. MagSafe Duo Charger and Leather Sleeve will be available at a later date.

Is the only written thing I found from Apple.
 
Interesting that its a different charging standard from Qi, but still is compatible with Qi (nice touch there Apple) - guessing we're seeing the remnants of AirPower here. Should be a nice charging option to have.

Probably a significant difference in size will help you. The Diameter of this charging puck goes almost across the back of an iPhone.

My Apple Watch 85 mm begs to differ.
 
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So now I need to use 2 hands to pick up my charging iphone again... that sounds like a step backwards. Am I supposed to stick this thing to my table, or what?
 
I have never broken a charging cable and I use it in bed when its plugged in etc. I never understood people always complaining about Apple charging cables breaking easily.

If the magnet is pretty strong on the new Magsafe charger and I assume it is since its probably the same one holding the new cases to the iPhone 12. The charger will probably lift up and remain stuck to the back of the iPhone which may lead to more cable damage than saving it. I've never had a problem with my current Mophie wireless charger not charging properly. When I lay it down I make sure its aligned properly, I feel the buzz and then see the light come on, only then do I walk away or go to sleep.

I think a lot of people just aren't careful when using their tech, but then I am pretty OCD and keep everything I own in brand new condition.

Well, you needn't get one if you don't have these problems, but it will solve problems for others. Can I ask what you see as the benefit of a wireless charger over a wired charger if you are so careful anyway with positioning the phone?

I am sure there will quickly be third parties offering blocks to house the MagSafe chargers so that they don't lift up with the phone -- just as they already do for watch chargers.
 
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If my iPhone sticks to the puck when I lift it (like Clark Griswold's sappy fingers glued to the magazine in Christmas Vacation), then what's the point? How is that even "wireless?"
I came here to make or look for this exact comment. It really is no different than unplugging the cable from the port. In that sense, i still prefer 'regular' wireless chargers. I suppose a crude workaround is to put some double sided tape underneath the charger...
It’s so that you have the option to charge your phone while you use it, as many complained before that you couldn’t do that with a regular charging mat. But if you want to disconnect the charger, it should be simple and easy enough to just slide the puck off with your fingers as you pick up the phone, all with one hand in one motion. I see only upsides and no real downside to this versus a charging mat or a port charger in terms of convenience. Of course there is still the usual criticism of inductive charging in general which is power inefficiency.
As far as the term “wireless”, yes that is a word that has been severely misused for the past several years, due to marketing. Not just with this charger but all inductive chargers, even mats. I’ve mentioned elsewhere, it should really be called “plugless” or “portless” charging.
 
Not sure if this question has already been answered, but can anyone confirm if the iPhone 12 is compatible with the generic wireless charging pads like the Mophie.

The Mophie Charging Pad, Belkin Boost and Native Union pads that Apple sell don‘t list the iPhone 12 as compatible. Thought this might be an oversight, but the Lightning Dock for example does say that dock is compatible.
Yes, Any Qi charger will work. The ones that have been available will not have the magnets though to ensure proper alignment So it will always charge, the ability to continue charging when picking up the phone and using it, and the 15w charge rate.
 
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