Apple's Nokia Deal Could Cost Android Manufacturers Too

[gkpm]

I love my wife - that doesn't mean I hate all other women or wish them ill.

You would if the husbands of other women (and other women themselves) spent their days saying:

* you married yours just because of looks
* yours was dumb and so you were dumb for choosing her
* she was not open minded enough (may be a good thing in wives)
* she didn't have enough orifices (I'm talking about SD cards, dirty perverts)

Then ignore you completely when you say you love her for what she is.

 

[ZipZapRap]

So it sounds like to me, Nokia just became the school yard bully.

Nooo... that's still Apple

 

[KnightWRX]

You would if the husbands of other women (and other women themselves) spent their days saying:

* you married yours just because of looks
* yours was dumb and so you were dumb for choosing her
* she was not open minded enough (may be a good thing in wives)
* she didn't have enough orifices (I'm talking about SD cards, dirty perverts)

Then ignore you completely when you say you love her for what she is.

Why would we wish ill on other women for that ? First, it's their husbands who say it, not them in your analogy. Second, why care what others think so much ?

Third: Did you just compare Apple to your wife ? you realise Apple is a faceless corporation out to make profit from your earnings right ? You just compared them to the most cherished person in your life... think about that for a minute.

 

[gkpm]

Why would we wish ill on other women for that ? First, it's their husbands who say it, not them in your analogy. Second, why care what others think so much ?

It's the husbands, the father and even some of the women that says that. You also get notes from the women in magazines and TV saying yours sucks because it doesn't wear heavy, worthless, shiny jewellery (eg Flash)

A bit hard to ignore when they keep telling it to your face with such a smug look that's just sooo tempting to shatter.

 

[Popeye206]

I need more popcorn.... all the arm chair lawyers and patent experts on this forum is amazing.

Apple really should just come here for advice and skip legal council.

 

[samcraig]

You would if the husbands of other women (and other women themselves) spent their days saying:

* you married yours just because of looks
* yours was dumb and so you were dumb for choosing her
* she was not open minded enough (may be a good thing in wives)
* she didn't have enough orifices (I'm talking about SD cards, dirty perverts)

Then ignore you completely when you say you love her for what she is.

Actually - I wouldn't care. But hey - that's me. I don't really care what other people think. I've never been one to be influenced by peer pressure or what's cool. I've never been one to shy away from something just because it wasn't popular. It's more telling about how others act and what they say as to the kind of person they are. So again I say - you don't have to put down the competition to enjoy what you have. Just enjoy it. That's what matters.

 

[gkpm]

Third: Did you just compare Apple to your wife ? you realise Apple is a faceless corporation out to make profit from your earnings right ? You just compared them to the most cherished person in your life... think about that for a minute.

Samcraig started that particular comparison. I'm happy to replace the analogy with anything else .

 

[samcraig]

It's the husbands, the father and even some of the women that says that. You also get notes from the women in magazines and TV saying yours sucks because it doesn't wear heavy, worthless, shiny jewellery (eg Flash)

A bit hard to ignore when they keep telling it to your face with such a smug look that's just sooo tempting to shatter.

Sounds like a personal issue to me

 

[KnightWRX]

I think you started it?

Uh ? That was my first post in this thread...

Seriously, you just wished ill on women, saying they talk smack about your "wife" in an analogy about people badmouthing Apple. You just said you wanted to "shatter" their face.

You need to chill out.

Sounds like a personal issue to me

Sounds like he has some very deep personal issues. I don't even get where this "people talk about my wife, I want to hit them" stuff comes from or relates to the thread topic anymore.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

If so, why is Microsoft suing Motorola directly over Android?

Then by your guess the OHA going to retaliate as a joint entity?

I'll get my popcorn then. Any idea when this will happen?

take a closer look. While it may look like it often times it is shots across the bow but not head on.

ten-oak-druid for example hates android and pretty much just attacks it no matter how much miss information is in there.

 

[benthewraith]

Aw I must have upset you talking about Google like that.

Android users sue Google over tracking
.
.

Apple sued over location tracking

Ball's in your corner again, buddy.

 

[samcraig]

Uh ? That was my first post in this thread...

Seriously, you just wished ill on women, saying they talk smack about your "wife" in an analogy about people badmouthing Apple. You just said you wanted to "shatter" their face.

You need to chill out.




Sounds like he has some very deep personal issues. I don't even get where this "people talk about my wife, I want to hit them" stuff comes from or relates to the thread topic anymore.

That part is a bit scary. And I am not defending where he went.. but I was the one that made a statement earlier about loving my wife doesn't mean I wish others ill. I was not equating my wife with a company but rather explaining the notion that the emotion of love does not require one to hate the alternative. Then he went on a wild tirade...

 

[gkpm]

Uh ? That was my first post in this thread...

Sorry I meant samcraig. Mine was a reply to his post where he raised the wife/Apple comparison.
You can tell it's a reply because it has a little box on top, with the username one is replying to and the quote for reference.

Seriously, you just wished ill on women, saying they talk smack about your "wife" in an analogy about people badmouthing Apple. You just said you wanted to "shatter" their face. You need to chill out.

I never said shatter their face. Can you read? Look and face - different things.

Sounds like he has some very deep personal issues. I don't even get where this "people talk about my wife, I want to hit them" stuff comes from or relates to the thread topic anymore.

No one mentioned hitting anyone. You're the one with a violent imagination.

 

[samcraig]

Sorry I meant samcraig. Mine was a reply to his post where he raised the wife/Apple comparison.

I absolutely did not make a wife/Apple comparison. Read my previous post.

 

[theBB]

Lol I know but you gotta admit its pretty funny. Pot meet kettle type.

Why? Because I claimed the truth is probably more nuanced than the simple storyline that some others claim? Talk about missing the point...

Its more likely that the app developer copied android seeing as for the first year iOS was only web apps, and jailbreak devs tend to take the best from all OS's. Whether they bought him or not... you'd a thunk Apple would have more pride but there you go.

Jailbreak predates App Store, partly because that was no other way to install apps and Android was in pretty clunky shape when it first came out, but if you'd rather rewrite history, be my guest.

 

[KnightWRX]

You're the one with a violent imagination.

Wait what ? First you imagine samcraig saying stuff about wives, then you don't even remember posting this :

A bit hard to ignore when they keep telling it to your face with such a smug look that's just sooo tempting to shatter.

Seriously, calm down. Take a deep breath. No one is insulting your wife, women around you don't laugh and ridicule you behind your back. Don't hurt anyone. Talk to people close to you about these issues you have and get them sorted out before someone gets hurt.

 

[gkpm]

Wait what ? First you imagine samcraig saying stuff about wives, then you don't even remember posting this :

Seriously, calm down. Take a deep breath. No one is insulting your wife, women around you don't laugh and ridicule you behind your back. Don't hurt anyone. Talk to people close to you about these issues you have and get them sorted out before someone gets hurt.

LOL ok now you're just trying to wind me up

"Look" is NOT "face". Shattering a smug look is just a way of saying the other party goes from smug - usually sly smile - to a normal, regular, anything but smug facial expression.

Smug means: showing an excessive pride in oneself or one's achievements.

So it's all word based play, no violence involved.

For Android users it's quite easy, I just ask them to set their clocks to 03:14:08 01/19/2038.

 

[gkpm]

I absolutely did not make a wife/Apple comparison. Read my previous post.

Le sigh...

You compared a love for something to the love for your wife.

I understand that people love Apple - especially on here - I really do. But what I don't understand is why people are black and white about that love. Meaning - why some people love Apple and that, in turn, means you must HATE other companies and wish them failure, to die, etc. You can love one company without condemning others.

I love my wife - that doesn't mean I hate all other women or wish them ill.

See: top paragraph, then bottom one.

It's ok, don't worry. She won't know.

 

[haruhiko]

Nokia may well become the next patent troll i.e. Lodsys.

 

[samcraig]

Le sigh...

You compared a love for something to the love for your wife.



See: top paragraph, then bottom one.

It's ok, don't worry. She won't know.

No. You're misinterpreting. Did you not read my later post in which I "defended" your citing me (even though it was a wrong interpretation).

I didn't equate Apple with my Wife. I used an example where one can express love without hating. The love/hate is the lesson/example.

You can twist it if you want if it makes you feel better. But I am telling you what my meaning and intention was. So there's no argument about that (definitively) from here on in because I've said my intended meaning point blank. Any further confusion/wrong assumptions/etc is your own doing.

Nokia may well become the next patent troll i.e. Lodsys.

No. Unless you use "patent trolling" in an extremely general sense. Which I wouldn't. Nokia has legitimate patents which aren't "fluff" or ones that are just on the books in case there's ever some random occurrence they can can pursue legally. That's not to say Lodys does or does not. My point being - that If Nokia pursues those companies violating their patents - that's not trolling. That's enforcing technology and IP that they have invested in and own.

 

[gkpm]

You can twist it if you want if it makes you feel better. But I am telling you what my meaning and intention was. So there's no argument about that (definitively) from here on in because I've said my intended meaning point blank. Any further confusion/wrong assumptions/etc is your own doing.

It's cool buddy. You've cleared it up pretty well.

I also agree that Nokia has not acted as a patent troll, so far at least.

Apple probably thought they had it covered with InterDigital's patents, but now it's clear they needed Nokia's too.

Would love for these things to be more open though and get a feeling for what patents they were actually talking about.

 

[AidenShaw]

you mean it iColosseum?

Wirefully posted (Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 9.0; Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; Trident/5.0))

maybe the whole top floor of the new "mothership" building will be needed to house all these busy busy lawyers?!

A letter in today's Mercury News suggested the name iColosseum !

 

[blow45]

Great strategic move, masterful actually. Kudos to apple.

Nokia may well become the next patent troll i.e. Lodsys.

In sheer mobile tec nokia dwarfs apple, apple have just been using eir much more limited expertise much more wiser what with their greater overall expertise, that's all.

 

[conglomeride]

Apple Should Just Buy em out

It could. It probably may never happen, but if it does, Apple's "surrendering" to Nokia's lawsuit would just add to Nokia's side of the story for anyone who shares a lawsuit regarding whatever patent Apple and Nokia were originally arguing over.

STEVE! Just Buy Nokia already!

 

[SuperVehicle001]

Are these hardware or software patents? We may never know. As a programmer software patents are horrible. They are usually vague and stifle creativity. Two different people can achieve something with software that under the hood is totally different. Trademarks and copyrights on code are enough to stop plagiarism. This situation is unlikely to change since most corporations are in a prisoners dilemma with their patent portfolio. Take as many patents as you can to avoid being sued by those who did take lots of patents.