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Apple's Online Store Down Ahead of Today's 'Hello Again' Mac Event

yaxomoxay said:
It's really interesting that you call it unreliable when there's nothing that points to it. No true review of the product, other than a few quick hands-on experiences. Yet, you call it a failure. Is it because of the Microsoft logo?
Yes, it's a niche machine. It's the first release of a new line of products, and possibly a new category (or at least sub-category). It's the first high end hardware by a company that was ridiculed just two days prior. That machine is not made to sell in significant quantities because that machine aims at the Mac Pro professionals first, and those between the iMac-Mac Pro later. It's niche for now, but be sure that they will release different sizes, different specs etc. once they figure out assembly problems. They would be stupid in doing otherwise.
You see, the problem for Apple is not the product itself. It's the fact that Microsoft announced to the world that it's back in the game, and it's serious this time. It shows to the world that Microsoft now dares, and it does not shy away from failures (for God's sake... Nadella admitted how much Windows Phone suck!). It shows that they have a deep, clear vision. That is: the opposite of Apple.

As for the product itself, I can't say. Yesterday my sister in Europe saw the videos and spoke to me on the phone for about an hour. She and her husband are professional artists, and they also teach at an arts academy. They are deeply excited about it; she told me that her colleagues see that machine as the perfect answer to all their prayers since the iPad was first released. It's what they have been waiting for. I don't know if it solves all their problems (I can barely draw a stick figure...), and I don't know the arts and entertainment industry. However, I can't fail to notice that the Surface Studio generated the buzz that used to be generated by Apple Computer Inc.

You may see faults in the product, I see a new push within the industry.
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Huge detachable hinge and battery problems. Google is your friend.

And where exactly did I call it a "failure"? "Niche" is not "fail", but a machine starting at $3000 is definitely niche.
 
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most software tho now runs windows and Macs like apple stopped the great aputure for the crap photos for kids and now they wants ppl to use Lightroom and so apple doesn't have any use anymore final cut isn't what pros use its adobee prem, so now windows seems to be winning and my 2015 MacBook Pro with and graphics in bootcamp they haven't updated drivers in months its so poor
 
djcerla said:
Huge detachable hinge and battery problems. Google is your friend.
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It's a pre-production machine.
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djcerla said:
And where exactly did I call it a "failure"? "Niche" is not "fail".
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Fair enough, you didn't call it a failure, but you compare it to the surface book (which in itself is not a complete failure; my understanding - and I might be wrong - is that it had serious problems at the beginning and then recovered)
 
Now I speak for everyone on here that we are clearly most excited about the air pods... or is it ear pods... maybe a new ipod?
 
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I predict, in similar fashion to the season 7 premiere of The Walking Dead, Tim will come on stage with a baseball bat and kill off a Mac, or maybe two. Which one’s? Please check back soon.
 
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The stuff Microsoft showed this week, especially the Surface Studio and VR are exactly the sort of products Apple should be showing. Instead there'll be a reheated underpowered Macbook with a pointless little screen where keys should be.

MS are absolutely blowing Apple out of the water in the pro market now. It's comically one sided.
 
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yaxomoxay said:
It's a pre-production machine.
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Fair enough, you didn't call it a failure, but you compare it to the surface book (which in itself is not a complete failure; my understanding - and I might be wrong - is that it had serious problems at the beginning and then recovered)
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Again a strawman. I never compared it to the Book; I said that professionals need a reliable workhorse, and can't afford to beta test extravagant new hardware like the poor souls who bought the Book did.

And no, the problems affected actual customers, not "pre-production".
 
Snappers said:
I predict, in similar fashion to the season 7 premiere of The Walking Dead, Tim will come on stage with a baseball bat and kill off a Mac, or maybe two. Which one’s? Please check back soon.
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Probably killing off the 11" MacBook Air, Maybe even the 13" MacBook Air as well IF a 13" MacBook is announced.
 
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Sakurambo-kun said:
The stuff Microsoft showed this week, especially the Surface Studio and VR are exactly the sort of products Apple should be showing. Instead there'll be a reheated underpowered Macbook with a pointless little screen where keys should be.

MS are absolutely blowing Apple out of the water in the pro market now. It's comically one sided.
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Well said, even me an apple fan boy can agree, Microsoft has shown the world what tech is, apple just adds speed to macs and pointless features i kinda wanna sell everything and move but i love the iphone
 
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djcerla said:
Again a strawman. I never compared it to the Book; I said that professionals need a reliable workhorse, and can't afford to beta test extravagant new hardware like the poor souls who bought the Book did.

And no, the problems affected actual customers, not "pre-production".
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Then I might have misunderstood you. I thought you were talking about the machine that was released yesterday?
 
even sierra 10.12 had nothing new from 10.11 or 10.10 maybe a few little things but everything looks the same, apple need to hurry up and make a huge diffrance, apple has lost the magic
 
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ppcebay said:
After yesterday.... it really needs to be something special.

Some of that "amazing product in the pipeline" seriously needs to get out!
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I disagree, a true Apple professional/fan will never be impressed with Microsoft offerings. Only the 'new' Apple customer could be swayed by the shallow front of a Windows 'product'. Just because a Ford Focus may have a new 'something' designed to it will never make it better than a Ferrari! And Mac users will know that they have the Ferrari!
 
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the truth is when a huge apple fan that buys everything and gets all the new stuff starts complaining then apple have a problem, even the the 7 plus animation problem loads of betas and nothing, they just dont listern to fans anymore
 
I hope everyone enjoys the keynote, I was hoping to get the AirPods today but after yesterday's announcement it looks like there's a waiting plus I can't afford a new MacBook at the moment so enjoy again
 
BarcelonaPaul said:
I disagree, a true Apple professional/fan will never be impressed with Microsoft offerings. Only the 'new' Apple customer could be swayed by the shallow front of a Windows 'product'. Just because a Ford Focus may have a new 'something' designed to it will never make it better than a Ferrari! And Mac users will know that they have the Ferrari!
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Are you saying that what impresses you is the brand and not the product?
I think that most of us, while liking Apple overall, look at the product. If Ferrari releases the equivalent of a Fiat 500... well, I'll take the Ford Focus.
 
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BarcelonaPaul said:
I disagree, a true Apple professional/fan will never be impressed with Microsoft offerings. Only the 'new' Apple customer could be swayed by the shallow front of a Windows 'product'. Just because a Ford Focus may have a new 'something' designed to it will never make it better than a Ferrari! And Mac users will know that they have the Ferrari!
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dumb comment lol im a apple fan since day one for me and microsoft has taken tech and changed the game, windows is amazing and mac os hasnt changed much in years and most industry software is used for windows and mac
 
My favourite feature if it comes is touch ID. I'm dying to forget my passwords for a very long time.
 
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