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Let me give my opinion to everyone getting in a hissy about the camera icon being there, the iPhone is on multiple carriers in multiple countries. On these other carriers and in these other countries there are also devs that make apps and need to test there apps and there MMS is already enabled. Apple is not going to go disable the MMS directly on these betas, as they did not do on the 3.0 betas until beta 5 when AT&T probably started the sweeps because of the insane call volume reguarding MMS and tethering.

How about everyone just take a Xanax and have a cocktail and relax? k? k.;)
 
i am a dev and have downloaded beta 3.1, people have been saying that they are getting the camera icon again! but i am here to say my 3G does not have it. Is there a problem?

go to settings>messages>enable mms... it is there. i think. im just geussing though....
 
There will be no slow rollout, it will go live the day that Apple releases iPhone OS 3.1. That will have the official carrier update which will allow it all to work.

makes since, this way 3.1 will automatically enable MMS. I can't help but think what kind of stress this will bring to AT&T network if mms is activated all at once.
 
Originally Posted by garciarios
I updated the instructions and went more in detail on steps to take. So 5 people are still working flawlessly. That just includes people that came back to this thread. From my experience when someone does something in a forum thread and it works they go along their jolly way and enjoy what they learned. On the other hand when someone can't get it to work they post replies saying it doesn't work blah blah blah. 5 people confirmed it working but I would bet MANY more people got it to work just never replied...

+1 sir

I had tried a number of methods but ultimately something even more simplified worked for me (and thank God I never had to call AT&T!):

1) Updated my iPhone 3G OS3.0 with a version of the ATT 5.0 carrier file and enter aforementioned MMSC/Proxy/etc. in Cellular Data settings.**
2) Put sim in different MMS capable phone.
3) Made some calls/SMS/MMS with said phone.
4) KEY STEP-->on AT&T my wireless site, I then selected a non-iphone "messaging" option that now appeared above all iphone texting features.
5) Put sim back in iPhone. REBOOT. I haz success.

**NOTE: I recently restored to 3.0 as a new phone, updated to 5.0 carrier file, and didn't have to enter ANY settings. MMS worked first try. Maybe another sign that MMS will be "official" come public OS 3.1 update.

Just to prove your point, garciarios...I achieved this soon after 3.0 Final dropped and am just now reporting my details. Soooo sorry to everyone still gone crazy for MMS! :eek: Once you have it, it's not that big a deal. If you're like me you just get fixated on making something work and lose sight of the big picture. End the insanity! Go for a walk! Pay your woman some attention! Spend time with your kids!

I'm starting to agree with my girl now when she dismisses my time on here as "NERD sh*t". To think of the time wasted. ::ashamed::
I'll be back tomorrow...

...Smoke 'em if you got 'em! ;)
 
No, it didn't. Unless you installed a hacked carrier file, MMS most certainly is not on AT&T's network's iPhones. In 3.1, MMS is enabled in the software, ready for it to be turned on in the network.

Which I now see bradenwh answered.

You're talking about the United States only, right? My friends in Japan have been using MMS with one another since the day OS 3.0 came out.
 
An AT&T rep. told my sister that 3G is coming to our area later this month. When hell freezes over I'll believe it. :rolleyes: I can barely get EDGE service where I live.

That's funny. One town close to where I live was suppose to have 3g by the end of '08 (Link). They still don't have it.
 
Nah AT&T said LATE summer.



Summer ends September 21.

Maybeee late August we'll see MMS, but we'll just have to wait and find out.

Why can people get it right..

It not about when it was printed (stated) on the Calender. Summer is June, July August, Fall is Sept. , Oct, and Nov.. Winter is Dec, Jan and Feb. Spring is Mar, Apr, May... always has been.. That how farming, plaints and animals do things. Also how the earth turns around the sun..

So again Summer is over in August and Sept is Fall.. Get it right. 4 (season) / 12 (months) = 3 (months pure season)

USA Seasons
Spring - Mar, Apr and May
Summer - June, July and Aug
Fall Sept, - Oct, and Nov
Winter - Dec, Jan and Feb..

I guess we need to go back to school...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Season
 
Why can people get it right..

It not about when it was printed (stated) on the Calender. Summer is June, July August, Fall is Sept. , Oct, and Nov.. Winter is Dec, Jan and Feb. Spring is Mar, Apr, May... always has been.. That how farming, plaints and animals do things. Also how the earth turns around the sun..

So again Summer is over in August and Sept is Fall.. Get it right. 4 (season) / 12 (months) = 3 (months pure season)

USA Seasons
Spring - Mar, Apr and May
Summer - June, July and Aug
Fall Sept, - Oct, and Nov
Winter - Dec, Jan and Feb..

I guess we need to go back to school...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Season

Due to the Earth's axial tilt, winter lasts from the winter solstice (typically December 22) to the vernal equinox (typically March 20) while summer lasts from the summer solstice (typically June 21) through to the autumnal equinox (typically September 21).
 
Due to the Earth's axial tilt, winter lasts from the winter solstice (typically December 22) to the vernal equinox (typically March 20) while summer lasts from the summer solstice (typically June 21) through to the autumnal equinox (typically September 21).

Again it is June, July and Aug is Summer.. Again you going by what is PRINTED on the Calender and the Wild life and farming do not go by them dates... Nature go by months not dates....
 
Again it is June, July and Aug is Summer.. Again you going by what is PRINTED on the Calender and the Wild life and farming do not go by them dates... Nature go by months not dates....

I think the axial angel of the earth to the sun is as close to nature as you get. Do you think that someone at AT&T is going to look out their window on day and see the squirrel gathering nuts and decide to flip the switch? That is the scientific last day of summer, sorry bub.
 
I think the axial angel of the earth to the sun is as close to nature as you get. Do you think that someone at AT&T is going to look out their window on day and see the squirrel gathering nuts and decide to flip the switch? That is the scientific last day of summer, sorry bub.

Well least see here. TV Shows start their new 'Fall' season the first week of Sept.. Schools "Fall" semesters start on the 2nd of Sept. Again it is the month not the dates...
 
Well least see here. TV Shows start their new 'Fall' season the first week of Sept.. Schools 'Fall' season start on the 2nd of Sept. Again it is the month not the dates...

Ok we'll go by what the networks tells us, lol. And schools have semesters not seasons.
 
Ok we'll go by what the networks tells us, lol. And schools have semesters not seasons.

Really! School starts in the Fall and end in the Summer.. So why do they call it winter break (after break a new semester) and spring break if they do not go by seasons?.. Also not just networks.. Farmers start planting in spring and that begins in the first week of March.. But I just wasting time with some one that has no clue how the world turns..
 
Really! School starts in the Fall and end in the Summer.. So why do they call it winter break and spring beak if they do not go by seasons?.. Also not just networks.. Farmers start planting in spring and that begins in the first week of March.. But I just wasting time with some one that has no clue how the world turns..

I said they don't CALL them season's, they CALL them semesters, and your correct I know nothing of astrology so what do I know about seasons.

I would tell you to go read a book but from your post I can tell that your reading comprehension lacks something to be desired.
 
I said they don't CALL them season's, they CALL them semesters, and your correct I know nothing of astrology so what do I know about seasons.

I would tell you to go read a book but from your post I can tell that your reading comprehension lacks something to be desired.

Oh So now you have to go after my reading skills because you can not come up with any thing good.. Nice one.. I think you are the one lacking reading comprehension.. Because I have made a point that dates mean nothing when the seasons truly start and finish.. They go by months not by dates..
 
i'd say august, but later on in August. September is Fall.

It not about when it was printed (stated) on the Calender. Summer is June, July August, Fall is Sept. , Oct, and Nov.. Winter is Dec, Jan and Feb. Spring is Mar, Apr, May... always has been.. That how farming, plaints and animals do things. Also how the earth turns around the sun...

Fall does not begin (in the Northern Hemisphere) until September 22. The actual months (by name) are meaningless and human-created. Summer runs from (roughly) June 23 to September 22 according to the Sun-Earth relationship.
 
Fall does not begin (in the Northern Hemisphere) until September 22. The actual months (by name) are meaningless and human-created. Summer runs from (roughly) June 23 to September 22 according to the Sun-Earth relationship.

Humans created dates..

During June, July and August, the northern hemisphere is exposed to more direct sunlight because the northern hemisphere faces the sun. The same is true of the southern hemisphere in December, January, and February. Contrary to common beliefs, the seasons do not result from the varying distance between the Earth and the Sun. Instead the tilt of the Earth causes the Sun to be higher in the sky during the summer months which increases the solar flux.
 
Humans created dates..

During June, July and August, the northern hemisphere is exposed to more direct sunlight because the northern hemisphere faces the sun. The same is true of the southern hemisphere in December, January, and February. Contrary to common beliefs, the seasons do not result from the varying distance between the Earth and the Sun. Instead the tilt of the Earth causes the Sun to be higher in the sky during the summer months which increases the solar flux.

Due to the Earth's axial tilt, winter lasts from the winter solstice (typically December 22) to the vernal equinox (typically March 20) while summer lasts from the summer solstice (typically June 21) through to the autumnal equinox (typically September 21).

Already been over this. Humans created the moths as well so your point is moot.
 
Already been over this.

I do not where you are getting you info but I see no sites that say typically any thing.. I guessing because you are adding things that are not there..


During June, July and August, the northern hemisphere is exposed to more direct sunlight because the northern hemisphere faces the sun. The same is true of the southern hemisphere in December, January, and February. Contrary to common beliefs, the seasons do not result from the varying distance between the Earth and the Sun. Instead the tilt of the Earth causes the Sun to be higher in the sky during the summer months which increases the solar flux.

According to meteorologists, summer extends for the whole months of December, January and February in the southern hemisphere, and the whole months of June, July and August in the northern hemisphere[2]. This meteorological definition of summer also aligns with the commonly viewed notion of summer as the season with the longest (and warmest) days of the year, in which daylight predominates. From the astronomical perspective, days continue to lengthen from equinox to solstice and summer days begin to shorten after the solstice, so meteorological summer encompasses the build-up to the longest day and a diminishing thereafter, with summer having many more hours of daylight than spring.
 
Nothern Hemisphere

Solstice

Equinox

Still I don't trust your reading comprehension..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summer

According to meteorologists, summer extends for the whole months of December, January and February in the southern hemisphere, and the whole months of June, July and August in the northern hemisphere[2]. This meteorological definition of summer also aligns with the commonly viewed notion of summer as the season with the longest (and warmest) days of the year, in which daylight predominates. From the astronomical perspective, days continue to lengthen from equinox to solstice and summer days begin to shorten after the solstice, so meteorological summer encompasses the build-up to the longest day and a diminishing thereafter, with summer having many more hours of daylight than spring.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summer

According to meteorologists, summer extends for the whole months of December, January and February in the southern hemisphere, and the whole months of June, July and August in the northern hemisphere[2]. This meteorological definition of summer also aligns with the commonly viewed notion of summer as the season with the longest (and warmest) days of the year, in which daylight predominates. From the astronomical perspective, days continue to lengthen from equinox to solstice and summer days begin to shorten after the solstice, so meteorological summer encompasses the build-up to the longest day and a diminishing thereafter, with summer having many more hours of daylight than spring.

Yes Meterologists go by climate to dictate season. The actual seasons when the axial tilt move from a +/-. The climate has "lag".

The Lag of the Seasons

The preceding reasoning for the causes of the seasons is idealized. In reality, we know that the seasons "lag": for example, the hottest temperatures in the Summer usually occur a month or so after the time of maximum insolation (the time when maximum solar energy is deposited during a day at a point on the surface of the Earth). This is because the Earth and its atmosphere store heat (the oceans are particularly effective heat sinks). Thus, a detailed description of the seasons is quite complicated since it must take into account complex local variations in the storage of solar energy. However, the basic reason for the seasons is simple, as described above.

Seasons lag
 
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