Bought a 6s Plus today instead.

[mrex]

The difference is like night and day. The 7+ crushes the 6S+ in actually every single regard (except that 3,5 jack).

Honestly, I really can't understand how someone spends more than 500-600 bucks on an outdated device...

Not sure what you see, but sounds like one of us need to see a doctor to have check the vision. I quess it might be me because already have a glasses...

There is a vid compairing photos

And i really dont see huge differences - if almost any. *booking an appointment*

 

[caelius]

The iPhone 7 while I understand it is a great iPhone and the best iPhone to date ... doesn't really offer many great new and exciting features over the 6s.

Don't get me wrong - I most definitely wouldn't upgrade from a 6S to a 7 myself. But since the 7 still is an upgrade in every aspect, I also would just never ever buy a 6S nowadays, except when getting it for such a steal like you did...

 

[imaginex20]

Why are you guys all upset with the OP?

I upgraded to the 7+ from a 6S and I also think the upgrade isn't a substantial one. Could I have lived with my 6S still? Of course! But my phone usuage has changed and required a the bigger screen and better battery life in the Plus model.

The OP gets to enjoy a really good phone in the 6S+ and still save money? That's not a bad decision at all.

 

[cableguy84]

Don't get me wrong - I most definitely wouldn't upgrade from a 6S to a 7 myself. But since the 7 still is an upgrade in every aspect, I also would just never ever buy a 6S nowadays, except when getting it for such a steal like you did...

I personally think the 7 is a great upgrade from a 6, just not great from a 6S/6S plus.

 

[Tthomas612]

Don't get me wrong - I most definitely wouldn't upgrade from a 6S to a 7 myself. But since the 7 still is an upgrade in every aspect, I also would just never ever buy a 6S nowadays, except when getting it for such a steal like you did...

Oh yes I absolutely agree with you. The only reason I went back to a 6s was because of the price. When he told me how much I had to think really hard.

I'm this type that upgrades my iPhone every year and I already had my iPhone 7 lol. But the fact that his was a 6s Plus and I had the regular 7 and it was $550 cheaper... I had to do it.

I had already given my fiancée my iPhone 6s Plus that I had before therefore she wasn't giving that up. When I asked her if I should do it ... she was just said as long as you ain't gonna be wanting the 7 later on down the line lol.

Common sense tells us Apple didn't release a phone that was worse with the iPhone 7... it's obviously better in most aspects... I just didn't think it was $550 better

 

[Roller]

Not sure what you see, but sounds like one of us need to see a doctor to have check the vision. I quess it might be me because already have a glasses...

There is a vid compairing photos

And i really dont see huge differences - if almost any. *booking an appointment*

Thanks for the link, which I assume you provided to support your argument.

But I just watched the video and concluded that the 7 Plus camera represents a significant improvement in some shooting situations. The first is HDR captures, which the reviewer described as "miles better" than the previous generation. She also found that the 7 Plus performed better in low-light conditions. And the new artificial bokeh mode, which has yet to be officially released, will be a boon for some portraiture.

I find it hard to understand the contention that there are almost no differences between the 6s and 7 series iPhones' ability to take photographs. Whether those improvements are sufficient to warrant the cost of upgrading is up to each buyer to decide.

BTW, I take it that English isn't your first language. That's OK. In fact, I applaud people who are willing to participate in discussions in other than their native tongue. But condescension knows no national boundaries. Your comments about vision and glasses just detract from your points.

 

[Jetro]

They're both great phones. I got my 6s march 31st so I don't really feel the need to buy the 7 just yet. I'll let them refine the production process some and get a nice one I think the op made a great choice to save all that money.

 

[Tthomas612]

Thanks for the link, which I assume you provided to support your argument.

But I just watched the video and concluded that the 7 Plus camera represents a significant improvement in some shooting situations. The first is HDR captures, which the reviewer described as "miles better" than the previous generation. She also found that the 7 Plus performed better in low-light conditions. And the new artificial bokeh mode, which has yet to be officially released, will be a boon for some portraiture.

I find it hard to understand the contention that there are almost no differences between the 6s and 7 series iPhones' ability to take photographs. Whether those improvements are sufficient to warrant the cost of upgrading is up to each buyer to decide.

BTW, I take it that English isn't your first language. That's OK. In fact, I applaud people who are willing to participate in discussions in other than their native tongue. But condescension knows no national boundaries. Your comments about vision and glasses just detract from your points.

I agree with you on these points.

We know the 7 Plus is going to be a beast of a camera. Especially when the bokeh effect comes into full play. With portrait mode for the 7 Plus and all that Plus the dual lenses. The iPhone 7 Plus will have a monster camera. However I just don't know that most people buys a smartphone all because of the camera. The iPhone 6s Plus already took great pictures and for a lot of people that would probably be good enough.

So after the camera it brings you to the rest of the 7's features... those are the ones that has to be questioned whether or not there is enough there to warrant an upgrade. In my case it was enough to upgrade until I found a 6s Plus for less than $200. Had I not gotten that phone I would have most likely kept my iPhone 7 because I was feeling cramped on that SE.

 

[Mr_Killjoy]

This thread is a joke.

OP posted his experience, and shared his decision making process regarding a great deal on a still excellent phone. Someone else may appreciate that info, as many value being responsible with their money more than being on the bleeding edge.

To all the preachers aiming to convert in here, you come across as hypocrites. In one line you accuse the OP of trying to "justify" his purchase - which he did on page 1 with a full cost breakdown - and then in the next line start preaching about how great the 7 is, how happy you are with your decision, how everyone should see how good it is.

Please.

Go watch photo comparisons. Go watch speed tests. The 7 is an incremental update, and for those that aren't devout? Incremental isn't good enough. If you're so insecure that you just can't bear the thought of someone getting a model that isn't yours, I recommend therapy.

And just to cut the knee-jerk reactions off before they start: I own neither a 6S Plus or a 7 Plus.

 

[aohus]

no kidding every iteration is incremental

the 'incremental improvements' shouldnt be overlooked.

- water resistant, borderline water proof
- better battery life
- better display (wider color gamut and higher brightness is definitely noticeable. to say that you cant tell, those people need to get their eyes checked)
- higher efficiency GPU usage. all while using less power. This is great for Gamers!)
- stereo speakers (catchup feature but at least its there now)
- Portrait mode (bokeh effect) looks great
- almost unibody look for MB and JB.
- better image quality of front camera
- tactic feedback for the home button is preferred over mechanical button. mech button feels obsolete now
- A10 fusion chip gives great performance all while using less power
- imo still the most aesthetically pleasing smartphone compared to its competition

 

[TurboPGT!]

Well... I preordered the 7 Plus 128GB in Matte Black as soon as it became live. Was told September 16th delivery. That day came and went and when I called, they said "Oh its Oct 3rd now". Then yesterday got a message saying "Oh its Oct 17th now". Totally fed up I went to the local O2 store and had a hold of a 7 Plus and you know what? It is just not worth the upgrade from a 6s Plus. The dual camera isn't that much of a benefit if you're serious about photography. I don't plan on swimming with my phone and the button is kind of..meh.

I got the 6s Plus 128gb for less a month , with 6 times the amount of data allowance and for half the upfront cost. Oh and in 12 months I can upgrade with no penalty for the iPhone 7s/8 next year.

I think the sheer hype of the phone is silly as its really not that great in my opinion.

Matt

Whatever dude, TL;DR you have no patience, couldn't wait, and now pretend like its not that great because you bought last year's phone instead.

 

[Tthomas612]

This thread is a joke.

OP posted his experience, and shared his decision making process regarding a great deal on a still excellent phone. Someone else may appreciate that info, as many value being responsible with their money more than being on the bleeding edge.

To all the preachers aiming to convert in here, you come across as hypocrites. In one line you accuse the OP of trying to "justify" his purchase - which he did on page 1 with a full cost breakdown - and then in the next line start preaching about how great the 7 is, how happy you are with your decision, how everyone should see how good it is.

Please.

Go watch photo comparisons. Go watch speed tests. The 7 is an incremental update, and for those that aren't devout? Incremental isn't good enough. If you're so insecure that you just can't bear the thought of someone getting a model that isn't yours, I recommend therapy.

And just to cut the knee-jerk reactions off before they start: I own neither a 6S Plus or a 7 Plus.

These people just want to attack because they believe everything Apple tells them! If Apple says that this phone is 20 times better than it's 20 times better to them.

The truth is and what people somehow now have a hard time admitted is that this update is highly incremental. This phone is to tide people over until the major update comes out next year. Nothing more nothing less.

Most people have to justify there purchases of the "latest and greatest" when the latest isn't much better then the last one. In the weeks leading up to the iPhone 7 people were upset because the update was going to be so small... the same people after the phone is released acts like it's the best thing since sliced bread now.

I have had the iPhone 7 and the differences were almost non existent to me...

 

[mrex]

i was going to say about the same.. the loudest crow about justifying the purchase seems to be actually those who bought it and getting it later - surely not the op. Actually the others who are still waiting their phones should be happy that there is another cancelled order ;-)

Thanks for the link, which I assume you provided to support your argument.

supporting or unsupporting most of those samples would represent real life scenarios. improvements? sure there is.. huge difference? like between day and night? no.

 

[Tthomas612]

no kidding every iteration is incremental

the 'incremental improvements' shouldnt be overlooked.

- water resistant, borderline water proof
- better battery life
- better display (wider color gamut and higher brightness is definitely noticeable. to say that you cant tell, those people need to get their eyes checked)
- higher efficiency GPU usage. all while using less power. This is great for Gamers!)
- stereo speakers (catchup feature but at least its there now)
- Portrait mode (bokeh effect) looks great
- almost unibody look for MB and JB.
- better image quality of front camera
- tactic feedback for the home button is preferred over mechanical button. mech button feels obsolete now
- A10 fusion chip gives great performance all while using less power
- imo still the most aesthetically pleasing smartphone compared to its competition

That phone is beautiful though!

 

[Odat]

Whatever dude, TL;DR you have no patience, couldn't wait, and now pretend like its not that great because you bought last year's phone instead.

That's basically what it sounds like to me!.

 

[lordofthereef]

Thanks for the link, which I assume you provided to support your argument.

But I just watched the video and concluded that the 7 Plus camera represents a significant improvement in some shooting situations. The first is HDR captures, which the reviewer described as "miles better" than the previous generation. She also found that the 7 Plus performed better in low-light conditions. And the new artificial bokeh mode, which has yet to be officially released, will be a boon for some portraiture.

I find it hard to understand the contention that there are almost no differences between the 6s and 7 series iPhones' ability to take photographs. Whether those improvements are sufficient to warrant the cost of upgrading is up to each buyer to decide.

BTW, I take it that English isn't your first language. That's OK. In fact, I applaud people who are willing to participate in discussions in other than their native tongue. But condescension knows no national boundaries. Your comments about vision and glasses just detract from your points.

I noticed she said miles better too. I guess our definition of that phrase greatly differs.

I don't think there's much argument in whether the camera has improved. The question is in how much. Is it $650 better? For me that is a resounding "no".

I'll also say that a YouTube video, while a decent forum to get an idea, isn't going to be as good as comparing devices in real life. I compared my wife's 7 to my 6s plus because the camera was the only aspect I saw myself benefiting from after the keynote. I ultimately lose more then I gain (both in the loss in money buying a new phone and in the fact I now need a dongle for my gym earbuds, though the money was a much larger factor).

I feel like some folks with the camera are the way I used to be in college with video cards for gaming. I spent hundreds to get the most minuscule improvements. But, at the time, it made me happy. And so I spent my money on what made me happy. No reason people shouldn't be allowed to do that here.

You want to know what I felt was absolute night and day difference? The speakers. Those legitimately surprised me. Traditionally they've been terrible on iPhones. These are just so much better. My wife now listens to music while getting ready in the bathroom on her phone (no not in the shower like some folks here have reported lol). Previously it was through a jambox.

 

[Tthomas612]

I noticed she said miles better too. I guess our definition of that phrase greatly differs.

I don't think there's much argument in whether the camera has improved. The question is in how much. Is it $650 better? For me that is a resounding "no".

I'll also say that a YouTube video, while a decent forum to get an idea, isn't going to be as good as comparing devices in real life. I compared my wife's 7 to my 6s plus because the camera was the only aspect I saw myself benefiting from after the keynote. I ultimately lose more then I gain (both in the loss in money buying a new phone and in the fact I now need a dongle for my gym earbuds, though the money was a much larger factor).

I feel like some folks with the camera are the way I used to be in college with video cards for gaming. I spent hundreds to get the most minuscule improvements. But, at the time, it made me happy. And so I spent my money on what made me happy. No reason people shouldn't be allowed to do that here.

You want to know what I felt was absolute night and day difference? The speakers. Those legitimately surprised me. Traditionally they've been terrible on iPhones. These are just so much better. My wife now listens to music while getting ready in the bathroom on her phone (no not in the shower like some folks here have reported lol). Previously it was through a jambox.

Those speakers are the most improved thing in the iPhone. I personally think Apple should have improved the speakers with the 6/6+, but it's a welcome change nonetheless. That's one thing about the iPhone 7 that is miles ahead of any other iteration of the iPhone.

That said speakers is a thing that I'm meh on... the sound that comes out of my 6s Plus is enough for what I do. My significant other however is a different story...

 

[Roller]

I noticed she said miles better too. I guess our definition of that phrase greatly differs.

I don't think there's much argument in whether the camera has improved. The question is in how much. Is it $650 better? For me that is a resounding "no".

I'll also say that a YouTube video, while a decent forum to get an idea, isn't going to be as good as comparing devices in real life. I compared my wife's 7 to my 6s plus because the camera was the only aspect I saw myself benefiting from after the keynote. I ultimately lose more then I gain (both in the loss in money buying a new phone and in the fact I now need a dongle for my gym earbuds, though the money was a much larger factor).

I feel like some folks with the camera are the way I used to be in college with video cards for gaming. I spent hundreds to get the most minuscule improvements. But, at the time, it made me happy. And so I spent my money on what made me happy. No reason people shouldn't be allowed to do that here.

You want to know what I felt was absolute night and day difference? The speakers. Those legitimately surprised me. Traditionally they've been terrible on iPhones. These are just so much better. My wife now listens to music while getting ready in the bathroom on her phone (no not in the shower like some folks here have reported lol). Previously it was through a jambox.

I agree. I was just pointing out the disconnect between the content of the video (and the conclusions reached by the reviewer, accurate or not) and what the poster I responded to had claimed.

Clearly, there's a great deal of subjectivity in determining what "improved" means. Throw value into the mix, and it's a mess. That's why I try not to chastise people for their personal decisions either way.

I was interested to read what you said about the speakers. I hope that I have the same reaction as you did because I've found the speakers on my 6 Plus lacking. I guess I'll find out in a week or two!

 

[lordofthereef]

That said speakers is a thing that I'm meh on... the sound that comes out of my 6s Plus is enough for what I do. My significant other however is a different story...

Exactly my stance. If I am watching something or listening to music it is generally with headphones. If and when my son gets a hand me down from mom, it's sopemthing he is likely to enjoy as well. The amount he streams in the back seat of the car is staggering haha.

 

[blaine07]

Why everyone so angry? You'd think OP took money out of you guys pocket . If he's happy why worry?

 

[akash.nu]

I personally think the 7 is a great upgrade from a 6, just not great from a 6S/6S plus.

Why do you think it's a great upgrade from the 6?!

 

[Tthomas612]

Exactly my stance. If I am watching something or listening to music it is generally with headphones. If and when my son gets a hand me down from mom, it's sopemthing he is likely to enjoy as well. The amount he streams in the back seat of the car is staggering haha.

Lol kids these days. Tell me about it. My kids are just now getting into kindergarten and between batman and ninja turtles on youtube my phone never stops

 

[normanfox]

no kidding every iteration is incremental

the 'incremental improvements' shouldnt be overlooked.

- water resistant, borderline water proof
- better battery life
- better display (wider color gamut and higher brightness is definitely noticeable. to say that you cant tell, those people need to get their eyes checked)
- higher efficiency GPU usage. all while using less power. This is great for Gamers!)
- stereo speakers (catchup feature but at least its there now)
- Portrait mode (bokeh effect) looks great
- almost unibody look for MB and JB.
- better image quality of front camera
- tactic feedback for the home button is preferred over mechanical button. mech button feels obsolete now
- A10 fusion chip gives great performance all while using less power
- imo still the most aesthetically pleasing smartphone compared to its competition

one more item to your list: bigger taptic engine with System Haptics. UI elements in iOS will now also provide tactile haptic feedback when you activate them, beside home button. for example, sliding down notification feels like sliding down a door with weight. rotating time clock feels like spinning a wheel with weight.

System Haptics is not available for iphone 6s.
[doublepost=1474848897][/doublepost]if you want to upgrade for different design appearance, the 7 is same old. but if you care about what is under the hood, the 7 is a worthy upgrade.

 

[mi7chy]

OP has a point. iPhone 7 Plus at best is a minor upgrade and at worst a downgrade from iPhone 6S Plus if you value the 3.5mm audio jack, no hissing in video recordings, a non-yellow display, reliable reception, ability to go back to stable and non-laggy iOS 9.3.5, familiar home button and swipe to unlock, etc. Not much difference between A9 and A10 when they're still limited by 16nm. No difference between 2GB and 3GB DRAM in real testing might be because the additional 1GB is reserved for camera processing. Secondary camera is f/2.8 so useless for non-optimal lighting and software even disables it automatically for many situations in favor of using primary f/1.8 camera and software zoom. Fake bokeh is a novelty that's already wearing off and there's more to photography than just applying fake bokeh to everything. Stereo speaker is just reusing what was there before, the call speaker, but sound is unbalanced due to one front firing and the other side firing. Doubt anybody really cares about a vibrating home button that drains battery. Better off with the iPhone 6S Plus especially if you can find a good deal on it and wait for the overhauled iPhone 8 Plus.

 

[neteng101]

People are weird. So you bought last year's tech because you can't wait - its not the same as someone that has a 6S not upgrading to the 7. In this case one person's impatience cost them the latest iteration and no matter how much you try to justify it, its just a dumb decision buying old tech.

Enjoy your new (old) phone - its still a great phone. But why not wait a little more to get the latest?