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I suppose it‘s possible that draconian measures have slowed the virus significantly there. I wonder if there are any reports of manufacturing slowdowns there, or is it full steam ahead?
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Ok this is alarming if we are going from water droplets from a sneeze falling to the ground, versus being airborne 3 hours later. There is a difference between existing in the air versus remaining airborne. I could not tell from the narration if this is what was reported exactly or an assumption was made. My impression is this has not been substantiated yet. 😬

That study was done using a misting dispenser, creating droplets much smaller than would be produced by a cough or sneeze. Droplets that small would tend to hang in the air much longer than sneeze droplets. So the 6 foot rule should suffice in most circumstances.
 
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That study was done using a misting dispenser, creating droplets much smaller than would be produced by a cough or sneeze. Droplets that small would tend to hang in the air much longer than sneeze droplets. So the 6 foot rule should suffice in most circumstances.
Thanks for clarifying! 😷
 
Not too long ago, certain parties wanted to tear down the frontiers and unify Europe. Not too long ago, certain parties decided to go flying on holidays not once or twice but three or four times a year. Not too long ago, certain parties felt the need to start eating exotic cadavers of snakes and the likes. And today I’m thinking, all coincidence?
go figure everyone is an Immune Biologist!


drove down town this Friday afternoon. Normally Broadway is grid locked. only ⅓ the normal traffic today.


on the way back stopped at a specialty pet food store.
They did not have the exact food blend and what they had was $10 more expensive. Because of the virus they would not let anyone into the store but I could see the clerkn from the front window. They wanted me to call into the store, give them my credit card#. They ran the charge, taped a receipt to the bag and made me step back from the front door as the clerk slid the bag outside.



maybe i should not be out and about
anyways
good luck everyone, be safe
 
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Im torn..

Im supposed to take New Jersey transit from Princeton to Penn station today for my double bass lesson in Manhattan...

I hate to miss this, and Id also forfeit the money for the lesson...Im 52, so not really high risk, but still..

thoughts?

I see no one provided feedback to you on your situation, Even though my post is now ‘after the fact’, here are my thoughts:

If It really concerns you and if you have any type of underlying health issues moving forward, (and if the pandemic is in a ‘community spread’ in your area), don’t do it. [It obviously concerns you enough where you posted your thoughts on here], but why risk something over ‘money that you might have lose’ in your situation. I have to agree with what is being rehashed by Health professionals, which is stay home if you have the opportunity to do so.

Now, I’m not saying don’t go out in public at all, but I feel the risk is higher on public transit systems versus say you driving your own car ‘to & from’.

Public transit systems in my city has been Deactivated strictly for that reason alone, is because they are trying to eliminate areas where the spread tends to manifest.
 
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I see no one provided feedback to you on your situation, Even though my post is now ‘after the fact’, here are my thoughts:

If It really concerns you and if you have any type of underlying health issues moving forward, (and if the pandemic is in a ‘community spread’ in your area), don’t do it. [It obviously concerns you enough where you posted your thoughts on here], but why risk something over ‘money that you might have lose’ in your situation. I have to agree with what is being rehashed by Health professionals, which is stay home if you have the opportunity to do so.

Now, I’m not saying don’t go out in public at all, but I feel the risk is higher on public transit systems versus say you driving your own car ‘to & from’.

Public transit systems in my city has been Deactivated strictly for that reason alone, is because they are trying to eliminate areas where the spread tends to manifest.


thanks..I bailed. Simply not worth the chance of either getting sick with this or becoming a vector and transmitting it to others.
 
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Hopefully, this graph is indeed correct that "curve flattening" is happening in Kentucky.

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Twitter is apparently hoping to make its blue check "verified" indicator on accounts more useful to those seeking information from sources worth paying attention to during the coronavirus pandemic. The company is offering info on how to get such expertise noted on their Twitter setups.

 
Given the respiratory nature of this virus, I suspect smokers will probably have a harder time with it.
 
There were fewer new cases reported in the US today than yesterday(4824 vs. 5594). We'll see over the next few days if that was an anomaly or a good sign. From looking at the Chinese stats, it was 6 days(Feb. 12th to Feb. 18th) from when the peak number of new cases occurred to the first decrease in total active infections. With that said, China also saw an initial downward trend in new infections starting February 6th that lasted until the huge spike on the 12th.

A one day reduction certainly isn't enough to draw any conclusions, but it is at least a hopeful sign(albeit one that could be explained by other factors, such as-potentially-fewer tests on a weekend). I still think that we'll top 30,000 cases tomorrow, but I will be interested to see by how much.

Kentucky is at 87 total cases reported with 3 deaths. There again, although both active cases and total cases are still increasing, it certainly is less extreme than in some neighboring states and also testing numbers(absolute and per-capita) are higher than some other states. I'm feeling good about Kentucky.

The governor's 5:00 press conference have become something of the anchor of every day, with seemingly everyone in the state watching them. The governor has been compared favorably to Mr. Rogers-he doesn't hold back any necessary information, but does it in such a calm and reassuring fashion that he has earned the trust of I think the vast majority of the state. I may not have voted for him in 2019, but he's done such an amazing job, especially to have only been on the job 3 months, that he's earned my vote in 2023.
 
Shut down in the state of Victoria Australia will start on Tuesday but not sure how long. Only essential services like supermarket , banks and gas stations will be open :mad:.

In our time i really thought plaques and epidemic are things of a past, never expected a virus will knock us deep and hard 😷🤕☠
 
More and more states are moving to staying at home "orders", and here in Washington state, the fourth largest city, Everett (located north of Seattle, and where the very first case of the virus in the US occurred), has ordered such an order. But it is not as "strict" as one would think. The governor of our state is being pushed to issue such an order for the entire state, and I suspect it is coming.

My wife and I will want to pick some ferns starting in April, and pick seaweed in early May (excellent low tide at that time). Such locations are WAY away from others, so should be no issue regarding social distancing. But I keep wondering if we are driving to such locations, will we be stopped by law enforcement and told to go back home? I hope not, as such activities will definitely be helpful for our "psyche".

Now, for a couple of bizarre stories:

1. https://www.seattletimes.com/nation...ng-with-the-coronavirus-are-clogging-toilets/

How can people be so, so stupid? Such a basic fact about not putting such things in the toilet has been known for a long, long time. Yet these idiots are doing it! As Tom Hanks so correctly stated, "Stupid is as stupid does".

2. https://www.yahoo.com/news/social-distancing-thousands-londoners-head-120000561.html

Our oldest son and his wife lives not too far from that park, and we have been there a few times. They like to take their dogs there. Don't know if they are going there or not, but I hope not.
 
So some surprising news in my community due to the pandemic, restaurants/bars are officially shut down until the end of May as a recent announcement. That said, I was actually surprised after talking to a few restaurant owners/investors who are forfeiting two franchise restaurants, and yet the ‘smaller family’ owned restaurants are actually surprisingly doing well with online/delivery orders. I thought it would be opposite, but there are two restaurants (TGI Friday’s and Applebee’s) officially announced they are closing their doors permanently, which I suspect they must have a lot more overhead/lower profit margins without any direct assistance from brother/sister corporate stores.

I think the restaurant industry is facing not only concerns losing a customer base over the pandemic, but ultimately it’s about changing their strategy moving forward in terms of how they can survive With the migration of pushing online/deliveries, considering in-house dining options are not allowed for the next two months.
 
Given the respiratory nature of this virus, I suspect smokers will probably have a harder time with it.

Smoking won't help, but a huge problem with this being a new virus is that we just don't know how it responds. Some data that just came out of Italy reports that 75% of the deaths had hypertension and 25% had diabetes and many of them had both. They didn't report if the dead were smokers so it could very well be that having hypertension was strongly associated with smoking and that it was smoking and not high blood pressure that did them in.

One thing we need to be cautious about is cherry picking conditions that make us feel safer. Smoking and air pollution are major public health issues in China, but obesity isn't. In the US, it's the other way around.

I prefer to think about societal factors that might help us. We have a lower population density and lower reliance on public transportation. We also have a much greater capacity to work from home as so much of our workforce are people who do knowledge work and can work from anywhere.
 
- a smartphone video of an Italian hospital

Here's a similar video, but shot professionally with narration from a news crew. The interviews slow this down, but it's worth watching all the way. I think they want to show the severity of the situation, but they're Brits so they can't help but keep calm and carry on in the reportage.



Leaked Wuhan videos capture the most desperate moments in more stark detail.


 
Holy crap, this thing is a chameleon. It might just show up as digestive issues, but somehow people with just digestive issues fare worse according to this report. They didn't clarify. I'm not sure exactly how that works.

 
I prefer to think about societal factors that might help us. We have a lower population density and lower reliance on public transportation. We also have a much greater capacity to work from home as so much of our workforce are people who do knowledge work and can work from anywhere.

You’re right, moving forward, I think we will find that some career positions will be shifted to home, because it probably will be a ‘safe bet’ knowingly that this isn’t something that will just go away to safe guard the company and employee. My neighbor is an accountant, which their position was moved home and her husband positions was also moved to home as an IT infrastructure engineer.

And just To ‘piggyback’ on what I said above in a post, is that there are certain career positions that will be affected, because you can’t move certain positions to home, such as the restaurant industry with Owners/GM’s. But there are positions that are unique enough where they can have an ‘office space’ if need be, but also migrate to home semi-permanently if necessary. And I think for those moving in various industries, that’s something to consider now given our economy/overall likelihood environment is ever-changing with uncertainties of how long something will last.
 
I went to a few stores yesterday to pick up various things. I found 90% of what I was looking for, fortunately.

I noticed that people seem a bit more stressed that a few days ago, which is understandable. Still polite, friendly, even, but more stressed.

But the main thing I noticed was an absence of law enforcement doing speed limit enforcement, combined with what seemed to be an increase in distracted and aggressive driving in general. I’m usually pretty vigilant regarding the behavior of other drivers, but I found myself being more so yesterday. There’s not quite as much traffic as before, but there’s enough to find oneself in an unfortunate situation if not paying attention.

I’m wondering if we’ll see more instances of road rage than usual as more and more people feel the stress of our current situation. It seems to me that social distancing may be a good thing when on the road, as well.
 
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So the world in the short story "The Machine Stops" is our future? Would almost rather the virus
You’re right, moving forward, I think we will find that some career positions will be shifted to home, because it probably will be a ‘safe bet’ knowingly that this isn’t something that will just go away to safe guard the company and employee. My neighbor is an accountant, which their position was moved home and her husband positions was also moved to home as an IT infrastructure engineer.

And just To ‘piggyback’ on what I said above in a post, is that there are certain career positions that will be affected, because you can’t move certain positions to home, such as the restaurant industry with Owners/GM’s. But there are positions that are unique enough where they can have an ‘office space’ if need be, but also migrate to home semi-permanently if necessary. And I think for those moving in various industries, that’s something to consider now given our economy/overall likelihood environment is ever-changing with uncertainties of how long something will last.
I sure hope we don't start shifting to a world like that of "The Machine Stops" even if some work shifts permanently online. Online learning is great in some respects but can't replace the school experience completely.
 
The situation is getting worse day by day. Not sure how to recover this situation and recover us all. :)

30+ companies are competing to come up with the best vaccine , so the the turning point to that dreadful situation we are in is probably weeks or few months away.

Unimaginable loss occurred within very short time but recovery will be long and hard.
 
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