Coronavirus (Covid-19) informational thread

[Mefisto]

Hello all. I have question. This is something what I can't understand. Maybe I'm so stupid, ok my english isn't perfect but I thing this is so stupid and Incomprehensible.
Can you explain or is it spelled correctly?

I understand it to mean that if people are spending time in the cafeteria, they shouldn't huddle up in groups but rather keep their distance, in other words spread out around the room.

But hey, English isn't my first language either, so take it with a grain of salt.

 

[avz]

Hello all. I have question. This is something what I can't understand. Maybe I'm so stupid, ok my english isn't perfect but I thing this is so stupid and Incomprehensible.
Can you explain or is it spelled correctly?

There is no mistake. It just tells you to keep social distance from other people (1,5-2m). "Hell is other people."

 

[hawkeye_a]

Does anyone know what effect this virus has on those you survive? What are the physiological implications? Can they contract it again? Can they infect those who never had it?

Apologies if this has been answered.

 

[Huntn]

Does anyone know what effect this virus has on those you survive? What are the physiological implications? Can they contract it again? Can they infect those who never had it?

Apologies if this has been answered.

They interviewed a nurse who recovered from it and looked like she was in her 30-40 age, and she described flu like symptoms but also something approaching debilitating weakness at one point. Post 1 of this thread includes a list of symptoms.

• Psy implications, I imagine no worse than after having any illness. It probably depends on just how sick you got.
• Word is it can be contracted a second time, but if not mutated too much or a different strain, the symptoms will be lesser for the second round.
• If you have it, even a second time, I imagine you are contagious.

 

[44267547]

I was impressed with my shop for an oil change/inspection today, not also did they wear gloves when they handled my car, But they actually are allowing customers to drive the vehicle into the shop with the guidance of the employee, which essentially is keeping the technician out of your vehicle altogether (Probably from any cross-contamination to the employee or vice versa to the customer.)

We also have a mandate in our city now, that all essential businesses that are currently open, have to have a hand sanitizer station at the entrance with a designated sign encouraging customers to use it.

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I think what I find really interesting, is that we’re not going to see ’normal’ times anymore once/if C-19 subsides, this is going to be a heightened sense moving forward in terms of how businesses change their practices and be more mindful of cleanliness and ensuring proper hygiene for their employees/customer base.

But yet, we can only try to change so much in our society, just like when I saw a female customer last week have her hands full of groceries, then put a bag of chips into her mouth, carried them to the register, because she didn’t have any more room in her hands. Unfortunately, we can’t change the ways for everyone, we can only set the example the best we can for others to follow.

 

[Healer Flame]

Prince Charles tests positive

 

[Doctor Q]

I read that ransomware hackers have increased their targeting of healthcare facilities, since keeping such places operating is now critically important (i.e., worth more $$$ than before). And of course the IT departments in these facilities are busy and distracted at the moment, trying to maintain remote access for staff who are working from home, which in turn means opening up outside access that might make it easier for hackers to get their hooks into the system. Ugh.

 

[jkcerda]

GOOD MORNING.

 

[Healer Flame]

Deleted orignal post. China may not be the source of the virus.

Peter K, i can see why you disliked my post because i deleted the orignal one in which i blamed China for the disaster we are in.

Please let me explain why i change my mind. The Chinese have been eating bats and rats for thousands & thousands years. so why did the Corona virus suddenly spread to humans and became contiguous in 2020?

Ask yourself why we increasingly being encouraged to use cards instead of cash?

Ask yourself why the most powerful and rich powerhouse nations in the world hit the most by Corona Virus. USA, China, Germany, France, Italy, S Korea and Spain ?

Ask yourself is it really really reasonable to lock Billions of world population in their house for months?

All i can is i feel sorry for the Bat, its creepy and ugly so an ordinary person will just believe the B.S

 

[yaxomoxay]

The Chinese have been eating bats and rats for thousands & thousands years. so why did the Corona virus suddenly spread to humans and became contiguous in 2020?

Because viruses mutate, change, and try to live off other organisms. This is a simply a virus of animal origin, but it will be very difficult to find out exactly where it came from. It's pretty clear that it came from China.

 

[Healer Flame]

It's pretty clear that it came from China

Thats what we've been told, if the virus was born in China i can assure you it would've spread 10 times faster than Italy and Spain, especially in Bejing , Shanghai and other major cities. China has 1.2 Billion people, they are 15 times populated than Italy, so its almost hard to believe they overcame the massive problem in weeks ? If you remember yaxomoxay you and i were wondering how the Chinese overcame the problem in a short period of time.

Only yesterday i posted an article from Italian newspaper regarding a flu that was spreading fast and contiguous in 15/10/2019 so its likely the virus hit Europe before it went to China.
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L'influenza colpirà 6 milioni di persone

La nuova stagione influenzale «vedrà protagonisti virus più insidiosi e in termini di stime potrà colpire circa 6 milioni di persone». Questa la previ...

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[Healer Flame]

On 15 Oct 2019 Italian newspaper predicted 6 million people will be affected by a nasty and very contiguous flu not knowing it was Covic 19.

If that Virus was in China before that time it would've wiped one whole city by March 2020 but the Chinese are saying only 3000+ dead and they beat the virus ⁉️⁉️⁉️
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RIP

'You' star Mark Blum dies due to coronavirus

Mark Blum, who starred in You and Desperately Seeking Susan has died due to complications from the novel coronavirus. He was 69.The actor's representative confirmed the news to British publication The Independent.

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[Doctor Q]

I have a couple of quibbles with tips in the New York Times' Coronavirus FAQ. It's still worthy reading, however.

From the FAQ:

When will this end?

Some experts have guessed, optimistically, that the virus could abate in about two months, although that does not mean that public life would go back to normal. The more we take early precautions to protect our communities, like practicing social distancing, the better the results will be.
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If people stay at home to flatten the curve, that extends the timeline to avoid overwhelming our medical capacity. But their "better the results will be" phrasing, under the heading When will this end?, makes it sound like taking precautions will shorten the timeline. At best it's ambiguous, and they should have been more clear. They presumably meant that there will be fewer illnesses or deaths.

From the FAQ:

Can I go to the park?

Yes! Getting exercise outside is a great alternative to going to the gym, where touching high-contact equipment can pose a risk (if your gym is even still open). A study last year found infectious germs on about a third of the surfaces at 16 different fitness facilities. Exercise boosts our immune systems, and even a single workout can improve our ability to fight off germs, according to the latest research. Even if you just hang out in a park, rather than go for a jog or a walk, getting some fresh air, and hopefully sunshine, is a good idea.
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Many of us have been told to avoid parks because of likely encounters with other people. I think the Times' advice about exercise at home, and the section that says "You can still go for walks and exercise, but do it in a way that keeps you several feet away from other people." offer better advice than this section about parks.

And children are especially hard to keep safe where there is playground equipment. They don't mention that here, although if you read other sections of the FAQ you'll find the advice that kids should "probably avoid parks." The word "probably" is probably unnecessary there.

 

[michael9891]

For those of you that live in the US, I'm curious to know if you think it's a bad idea to reopen everything and try to get back to normal around Easter as Trump is suggesting?

 

[yaxomoxay]

On 15 Oct 2019 Italian newspaper predicted 6 million people will be affected by a nasty and very contiguous flu not knowing it was Covic 19.

This is a huge assumption on your part. Unless you can provide for some serious evidence other than the "the flu was stronger than usual" type of argument, yours is a totally void argument.
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For those of you that live in the US, I'm curious to know if you think it's a bad idea to reopen everything and try to get back to normal around Easter as Trump is suggesting?

Remaining on the operational and leaving the political outside (remember: we have to prevent intervention by the evil mods, who hover above us with their pitchforks waiting to annihilate our posts), it's difficult to say. It's obvious that the economy can't be stalled for too long, and it's obvious that the health risks are serious. I don't think that we can go back "to normal" before Easter for the simple reason that we won't go back to normal for decades, if ever. The public health policy evaluation is not that different than the one we make every day.
Another operational thing to consider is that in reality Trump doesn't really have any jurisdiction to open or close anything. That's up to the States, that's why they are so involved into it (Cuomo above all right now). The Executive Branch - heck, the Federal Government - can't really remove one of the most basic freedoms (freedom of movement), especially if based on a statistical projection, and on a nationwide level.

 

[Doctor Q]

Another operational thing to consider is that in reality Trump doesn't really have any jurisdiction to open or close anything. That's up to the States, that's why they are so involved into it (Cuomo above all right now). The Executive Branch - heck, the Federal Government - can't really remove one of the most basic freedoms (freedom of movement), especially if based on a statistical projection, and on a nationwide level.

I believe that the federal government can prevent diseases from traveling between states by detaining and giving medical exams to interstate travelers, under section 361 of the Public Health Service Act, and that includes the power to put healthy people in isolation and sick people in quarantine. But most of the restrictions we're actually experiencing are based on state laws, which vary from state to state. Of course, plenty of people are isolating themselves voluntarily for their own safety and for the common good.

 

[jkcerda]

this sucks
but it is understandable.

Hospitals consider universal do-not-resuscitate orders for coronavirus patients

 

[yaxomoxay]

I believe that the federal government can prevent diseases from traveling between states by detaining and giving medical exams to interstate travelers, under section 361 of the Public Health Service Act, and that includes the power to put healthy people in isolation and sick people in quarantine. But most of the restrictions we're actually experiencing are based on state laws, which vary from state to state. Of course, plenty of people are isolating themselves voluntarily for their own safety and for the common good.

Isn't that what the CDC is using to "enforce" quarantines? I am not sure how it works functionally, but it's a different thing that a total, nationwide lockdown.

 

[hawkeye_a]

They interviewed a nurse who recovered from it and looked like she was in her 30-40 age, and she described flu like symptoms but also something approaching debilitating weakness at one point. Post 1 of this thread includes a list of symptoms.

• Psy implications, I imagine no worse than after having any illness. It probably depends on just how sick you got.
• Word is it can be contracted a second time, but if not mutated too much or a different strain, the symptoms will be lesser for the second round.
• If you have it, even a second time, I imagine you are contagious.

Thanks, but I'm aware of the symptoms, when one is infected and has it, I was wondering what the "post sickness" state is of the respiratory system and whether or not it is possible to contract it again.

CNN just released some info on my question, which might be informative to others:

Video reveals lung damage in US coronavirus patient: 'People need to take this seriously' | CNN

A video shows the lungs of a man who had been asymptomatic a few days earlier.

www.cnn.com

Yesterday, I walked over to my local pharmacy(about 1/4 of a mile), and was surprised and annoyed to see the number of cars on the road. I dont think people are taking this seriously enough. There needs to a shutdown for a few weeks to prevent more people from being infected IMHO.
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Isn't that what the CDC is using to "enforce" quarantines? I am not sure how it works functionally, but it's a different thing that a total, nationwide lockdown.

I do not know about US state/federal laws, but I think all Australian states and territories have closed their borders to interstate travelers. (This is including a federal ban on non-citizens from entering the country)

 

[Healer Flame]

This is a huge assumption on your part. Unless you can provide for some serious evidence

Good question

The reason why almost half million people are infected right now is because this thing has been around for many months. Google it, the first encounter with the disease was as early as November 2019 (refer pic below)

Like i said before its been spreading quietly concealing itself as a seasonal flu. If the Chinese Doctor Li Wenliang didn't alert the world there would still be an assumption everywhere Covic 19 is a serious killer flu. So my argument is valid and logic.

 

[0388631]

To be fair, it's hard to blame just the Chinese government. Even our CDC and the WHO downplayed and lied to people. I also have a tough time believing people close to POTUS are not infected or that POTUS himself isn't a carrier of the virus. For all we know the current numbers reported by each government are heavily fudged.

 

[baypharm]

Around here the grocery stores have opened an hour early for age 65+. That has opened another can of worms because there are so many people panicking, they congregate and line up before the sun comes up only to find that the stores will only allow 30 people in at a time. Nightmare situation. Also, I have some doctor friends who work at some of the VA hospitals and they told me the death rate due to coronavirus is increasing - BUT - since they are U.S. Government facilities, they do not report deaths to the CDC. So the actual death rate is much much higher than what the media is reporting.

 

[Gregg2]

Bad idea to reopen things in the U.S. for Easter. As Dr. Fauci, said, the virus will set the timetable.

 

[xorpi]

Good day. It would be really cool ✨if FaceID knew how to detect symptoms.✨ FaceID is an amazing and revolutionary technology (Really thank you to Apple) that deeply analyzes a person's face. If Apple had created and expanded the capabilities that FaceID technology could also be used to detect symptoms. For example, recognition of elevated temperature, glass eyes, redness of the eyes etc. Everyone uses FaceID many times a day, and if Apple integrated this option into FaceID, it would help people globally.

 

[Healer Flame]

British Mp tested positive with Covic19