It's not that an average consumer can really see the difference in resolution, it's their "knowledge" of it, gained from YouTubers, friends, spec sheets, etc. etc. It's sometimes unrelated to whether they can really see it.
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iPhone XR Did the iPhone XR flop? [MERGED]
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For the record, I don’t have an XR, I have an XS Max and being I am ‘tech enthusiast’, the XR display quality isn’t bad at all, as a matter of fact, I was actually pleasantly Surprised how good the XR display is. My point being, I think consumers make the decision for themselves in person if the display looks good or not, not just based off what YouTube says.
My feelings have not been hurt, karmatourer. This is an internet forum. But you claiming I’m hurt by this and still being unable to even tell me what it is you disagree with just proves my point.
The matter of the fact is that you only said you found my post hilarious/absurd. You didn’t state any reason for why that is, what it was you found so hilarious/absurd in my statement, what it was you disagreed with, or anything else. And you still haven’t. Thus you provided no additional value to the discussion as you simply informed about you laughing at a discussant, instead of providing reasonings for disagreement or alternative points of view.
My girlfriend has an iPhone 7 that is on its last legs... She asks me what is the difference between the XR and the XS, and I have difficulty explaining it bedsides saying the XS is nicer. She is frugal and doesn’t want to spend a ton of money for phones, but she is weary about getting a phone that seems to be behind the flagship. Honestly I think the presence of two “lines” of phones may cause indecision in buyers like her. Before the launch of the phones, she was very eager to get a new iPhone, now it is less of a priority for her
I am also a tech enthusiasts and I chose the XR. I'm super picky when it comes to having a top notch display in my home. When I compared the XR to the OLED screens I didn't see much of a difference. The XR looked just fine to me. Of course I don't watch movies or play Call of Duty on my phone. To those that do it may make a difference. But even then it may not to an average Joe who does those things on their phone.
I remember saying to myself "what's the point" when the first 1080p displays first started appearing on phones several years ago. I believe it was the HTC Droid DNA.
He people who watch YouTubers go insane over the smallest detail that gets them butthurt are weird. Half the youtubers are on the take. They get a free 1k+ item all the time to review they aren’t going to trash the company or say something is crap.
Have you ever seen a movie pre screening reaction. Everyone comes out of it like they saw the greatest thing ever. You go watch it and are like that is 2 hours I won’t get back
For a flop, I'm very impressed with mine.
Yes but look at what you have to do because of the Xs , you have to talk about mainstream Flagship. That doesn't exists.
The flagship is the best phone of each company. It's pretty clear that the Xs take that place this year.
So at the end you could pay $50 more than last year flagship for a non flagship phone.
And about general consumers. Of course they don't know about Macrumors, but every friend of mine that want to buy an Iphone ask me what they should do.
I am pretty clear, you could buy an Xr that is a "cheaper" version of an Xs. My general opinion is: if you own an Iphone 6, buy an 8 or X.
You know, in usa you are talking about 750 for a non flagship phone, in my country you have to pay a lot more than that for an Iphone.
Cost benefit is not so good this year.
Pointless to you maybe, but lots of pros over an XS to me; bigger device with larger screen (coming from an 8+ I really like that), no OLED (my eyes LOVE that), same processor, as good or better connectivity, considerably longer battery life, AND smaller price tag.
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The 8+ wasn’t the “flagship” phone last year if you want to get technical; the X was. And it really doesn’t matter whether upgrading from 8+ to XR isn’t a good value from your perspective. Don’t do it if that’s the case for you. I, however, and many others have been really happy with the upgrade. Thankfully, we all get to buy/use what we want instead of having to have the approval of others.
I like having a slightly smaller phone with Face ID, edge to edge display (and the slightly wider bezels don’t bother me since I don’t have huge top and bottom ones), upgraded processor, great camera, beautiful display, and a killer battery. In addition, I prefer the aluminum frames, and my white one with silver aluminum is quite a nice looking (and functioning) piece of tech.
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I'm not too confident that the "average consumer" goes running to YouTube or spec sheets when their phone becomes eligible for an upgrade. I could be wrong.
One thing this discussion about the "real flagship" versus the "mainstream" phone is not getting is that neither phone does anything functionally different than the iPhone 7. It takes a sharper picture, but that's about it.
Larger screen though, and that's going to appeal. Regardless, I suspect that when existing iPhone users upgrade, especially via carrier, they'll be most likely interested in trying to maintain their current monthly bill, not spike it by an extra $15 or so per device. That would seem to favor the XR, which is slightly more expensive than their old phone but offers storage and screen upgrades for the modest price hike.
I don't know if you can call it a flop, but it certainly did not do the numbers apple and analysts were hoping for.
I'm quite confident they don't.
I think the "average" American consumers decides to upgrade their phone for whatever reason, go into a store and look over the iPhones for sale, if iPhone is what they want, and decide on appearance and price what they want. My daughter and son-in-law decided to upgrade their iPhone 6's or 6s's a few months ago and bought iPhone 8's. They had no idea that new iPhones were coming out in a couple of months or what anyone on YouTube said.Having owned an XR for just over a week I have no complaint on how the screen looks or the way the device operates . I just hope that I will be this happy a year or two from now.
You are sooo wrong its not even funny. Clearly you dont have a single clue how sell side research works. Pls stick to the topic and leave the trading insights to CNBC.
Screen is crap compared to the XS line and crap compared to any 1080p in the market. Its insluting how Apple charges EUR850 for a phone with 2010 display quality. Shame...
In my opinion, the underlying problem here is the position that the XR is good enough for your average consumer while apple still charges a premium price for display tech we understand to be inferior to the plus offerings just a year ago. And since the iPhone XS Max seems to be outselling the other models, there can be an argument made that the average consumer is more aware of these issues.
Ditto, coming from a 6S the XR is a massive upgrade in every way. Not sure the hate besides ignorance. Apple didnt make it for people coming from an iPhone X or even an 8. Its for those of us that have been holding out for 2+ years and want a really nice iPhone thats not $1000. My 64GB 6S was $749 in 2015 and thats the exact same price as the 64GB XR today. So I'm not sure where all the hate is coming from on price either. It's 90 percent of what an iPhone XS Max is for much cheaper. Average consumers don't care about OLED, or else Apple would have been doing it years ago like android (note the super expensive new iPad Pros are still using LCD). Apple hummed along just fine for ten years using an LCD and the iPhone in general was a massive hit every year.
Even as a professional using high end camera equipment regularly , the iPhone XR camera and portrait mode has completely blown me (and others I've shown images to) away. The fact both the front and rear cameras can get THIS CLOSE to DSLR shots is amazing, even if its not always perfect. In the right circumstances and lighting it damn near nails it every time. Combine that with the pure ease of use of taking photos and editing them on the iPhone using apps like Halide (to capture RAW) and Darkroom make the iPhone WAY ore versatile than a DSLR for nearly every situation. This alone makes it worth the upgrade for anyone who is a serious hobbyist or even a pro photographer who wants amazing shots without lugging equipment around.
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Everyone has a right to their opinion, as well as buying or not. Maybe with enough complaining Apple change their ways.
There is a video on youtube where someone did a blind test between an xr screen and a pocophone screen (1080p display).
Everyone said the XR screen was better in comparison.
Yep, that my mistake, all these X's, S's and R's. The Max seems to be outselling the XS. My apologies.
Maybe if she just see's both phones, would be all that's needed to convince her the XR is a very good phone and worth getting for the savings.
OK, makes more sense. But that's still news to me. I'd have expected the XS to outsell the Max, by a large margin. I figured the Max was the high-end "enthusiast" phone - popular among Apple fans (like MR members), but less so in the general population. I mean...it's pretty big, and pretty expensive, relative to the XS.
Did Plus phones ever outsell their non-plus counterparts? I don't think so, but I'll look that up