Sorry, you quoted the list of features with HD video and editing, I thought you were asking about HD video and editing.
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iPod touch Does Apple Think People Are Dumb?
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Sorry, you quoted the list of features with HD video and editing, I thought you were asking about HD video and editing.
Then maybe the price could be identical too - $549 in Canada, which is double the cost of the current iPod Touch.
I still don't know the point of this thread; you never answered my question - what is it you are after here? People to agree with you?
So your argument boils down to you can't point out ANY OTHER PRODUCT and you're too cheap to buy the product you actually want at the price it's available for? Shine on, you crazy diamond.
Oh, and few share your opinions, but you're quite entitled to tilt at windmills:
Engadget: 9/10
PC Mag: 5/5
All Things Digital: Favorable review and "beautiful HD video footage"
Macworld: 4.5/5
USA Today: 3.5/4
The Telegraph: "Best portable media player on the market"
Slashgear: "Finally, the iPod touch, and if ever there was a device to overshadow the iPhone 4, this is it."
And that's just what I found in a few minutes. You're really wasting time talking about this with me - people that actually sway the public into purchases are grossly misinforming them! Only you can stop this injustice.
P.S. You fail at debating.
that's an easy mistake to make. I was hoping (despite the paltry pixel count) that I could tinker around with HDR stills--something no camera I own, can do.
Like I said, you can't even keep track of what you said.
Here you go:
Sounds a lot like you are requesting identical features except for the phone.
And again, my original point was that Steve Jobs didn't even say what you claimed he said.
Of course, they can be identical. But how does it imply that Apple thinks people are dumb because they chose to make it cheaper and smaller rather than add a better camera, display, and RAM? It's a trade off. Apple thinks cheaper and thinner will sell more iPod touches than adding the other features at a higher cost. They seem to be pretty good at these decisions lately.
Your 'point' isn't clearly stated at all. You brought up a review of the iPod Touch which, after weighing the evidence including the cameras etc., concluded that it is 'nearly irresistible' and scored a 9/10. You described this conclusion as 'basically iPod Touch kind of sucks'. Then you declared your wish that Apple had cared more about putting in a similar camera and less about size.
Like I said, what's the point of the thread? You don't like what Apple did. What kind of response did you want? Congratulations? You made up your mind; there was nothing to discuss. Nonetheless, people pointed out some things to you, you responded with whatever dribblings came out of your head, some even stupider than was the first post.
My argument is clearly stated on the first page. But what is your argument? I mean, do you even have one apart from calling people names and being overly apologetic for Apple?
No, it's not. You said a review said the iPod Touch kind of sucked when it got a 9/10. Unless your point was that you're either a lousy reader or a bad liar, I'd say it was very unclear really. And maybe you wanted something for free. Perhaps that too.
My point is that I had $300. I wanted the best portable media player/internet device available for my ~$300 today. Something that actually exists. Not something available in your mind and not something available on a breadboard. Available today. And as far as I can tell, you agree that the Touch is the best available device for the price.
You are not paying attention. Read Engadget's review. Apple claims that the price is not an issue. They claim that being thinner is more important than the quality of the added features, which, in my opinion, is an argument for the ditto heads. If price is not an issue, again, as Apple claims, no reasonable person would believe that most people would not want a better screen, camera, etc even if it comes at the cost of the new Touch being not as thin as it is.
What do you think is going to happen with the next version of the Touch, or the version after the next one? Point is, sooner or later it will have a better camera, screen, GPS, etc and it is not going to cost the same as iPhone.
So? What exactly is your problem? You have your opinions, I have mine. But if you did not get it, I can repeat it again, just for you, honey. The new iPod Touch does suck, and Apple makes laughable excuses for not making a better product.
Again, so? It is still does not change the fact, in my opinion, that the new iPod Touch sucks compared to what Apple could have done, and the fact that, in my opinion, of course, that Apple makes laughable excuses for not making a better product.
Wrong. From the review: "when we asked Apple about it, they said it was more a consideration of size rather than cost". This is different than saying "it was a consideration of size alone, not cost at all". In other words, cost may have been a consideration, but the size consideration was even more compelling. That is to say, if size wasn't an issue, cost still may have been. I don't expect you to parse the distinction, but for anyone else confused, there you go.
They only said price wasn't the primary issue behind the camera change. They never said 'price is not an issue for screen, camera, etc.' so you can't throw all those features in there as though their cost is negligible.
From your own post: "they said it was more a consideration of size rather than cost." That is not the same as "price is not an issue."
Great, the old "anyone that disagrees with me is a fanboy" argument. In Apple's opinion you are wrong. They have a better track record in this particular market than you do.
Apple did not claim that.
The claims that you quoted about thinness only applied to the camera.
Amazing how that happens. Component costs decrease over time. Components shrink over time. Is this a revelation to you?Sure, if you believe that, I have a bridge for sale. The current specs are going to stay unchanged for years to come? The camera, the screen, RAM, etc are not going to get better? Please...
Now you are just throwing stuff at walls and hoping it sticks. Who claimed anything like that? If ever there was a strawman...
hey everyone! the issue wasn't so much cost or other issues, so much as the form factor most appealed to Herr Jobs--he loves THINNESS. He seems to feel that thinness trumps all other considerations. When it comes to focus groups...well Apple has a permanent focus "group" of one--SJ.
Amazing how fanboyz forget that iPhone exists today. And no, there is no reason to believe that for the Touch to have the same quality of the components as in the iPhone, it has to cost the same.
I like how you spelled it with a "z".
Of course, it doesn't have to cost the same. Apple could give it away for free. But any reasonable person would assume that adding higher quality parts would likely result in higher prices.
And we'd have a thread whining "Apple is overcharging for the iPhone, you can get an equivalent iPod for much less"
Look, you are being apologetic for Apple's silly excuses. Like I said, if you believe that Apple's thinnest excuse holds water, I have a bridge to sell you. Clearly, they have all the components they need today because they have the iPhone, but why innovate when fanboyz swallow hook, line, and sinker anything Apple says or does?